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Personal attacks left on this page will be removed. Dyslexic agnostic

So will patronizing comments. Dyslexic agnostic

Because of their length, the previous discussions on this page have been archived. If further archiving is needed, see Misplaced Pages:How to archive a talk page.

Previous discussions:

• Archive 1 (29 November 2005 to 11 January 2006)
• Archive 2 (12 January 2006 to 04 July 2006)

Transport in Kochi

Hello. A couple of weeks back, you had tagged this article for merging into Kochi. It was created as a result of dressing up the Kochi article in summary style. I have added more info into the transport page now. The Kochi article is planning to go to FAC soon, and this merger issue may come up when the template is seen. As this is my first FAC, I'm a bit apprehensive. Do you still think it should be merged? Looking forward to your reply. -- thunderboltz10:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Well? Can I remove it?-- thunderboltz11:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Harrassment of T-Man

I'm looking at yur recent contributions and believe that you are harrassing T-Man. If you persist in this I will have to enforce the terms of your parole. Harrassment is not tolerated. , , and , for example. Steve block Talk 20:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm not actually a mentor of T-Man's, I'm simply putting the best interests of Misplaced Pages first, as an admin should do. You write that you "spend all my time correcting his mistakes and errors, and preventing his excesses and frankly inane attemtps to create pointless cartoon wikis about TV shoes for 5-year olds, and no one does anything to support me." Perhaps this is part of the problem. You shouldn't feel like you have to correct all his mistakes, and it is your constant correcting of every edit of T-Man's that leads me to warn you that your behaviour is akin to harrassment. In certain instances you have reverted edits which should not be blindly reverted. In other insktances you have made legal threats, which are in direct contravention to policy. Rather than decry to me the actions of T-Man, I suggest you conlsider your own actions and whether they are fully in keeping with the guidances on assuming good faith, and also that they are for the benefit of Misplaced Pages. You may have to accept that you are too close to this case. I have asked you on other occasions to have little contact with T-Man and allow this situation to work itself out, but you have ignored such pleas, so I have no option but to remind you of the terms of your parole. I appreciate that since you have been banned from comics related articles your edits have settled down, but I hope you also agree that the edits and summaries before that ban were antagonistic. Please read the guidance Josiah sggested on staying cool when the editing gets hot, this may help you in some way. Steve block Talk 20:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

What's the point of this? He wants you to leave him alone, please respect his wishes. Titoxd 03:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

DA -- I understand your frustration about the content of T-man's talk page. I'd be pretty upset if I were the target of it myself. But I think that continued attempts to reason with him there only exasperate the problem. You've seen that his reaction to past attempts to contact him about it have only enraged him more, so it might be best just to keep an eye on what he's writing about you, but keep quiet on his talk page itself -- even if your concerns are legitimate. Continuing to post there only makes him think you're continuing to 'harass' him and serves to prevent the issue from moving on. ~CS 09:53, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Ban from editing User talk:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow

Please be advised you are now banned from editing User talk:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow or any page in T-Man's user space for six months from this timestamp. If you violate this ban, per your parole you will be blocked. If you have any issues with content within T-Man's user space, or you wish to communicate with T-Man, please do so through another party, either myself, one of T-Man's moderators or another user. I will address any content in T-Man's user space which constitutes a personal attack on you. I regret that the situation has come to this, but I cannot see any other way out. Steve block Talk 10:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

• Note: if you have concerns with T-Man's editing that requires admin intervention, please do not hesitate to raise the issue at the admin noticeboard. Steve block Talk

Belated response re:T-man

Hey, DA. Sorry for the late response — I've been incredibly busy (I'm in a production of Macbeth that just opened, and my computer has been down to boot). I understand that events have moved on since the comment you left on my talk page on the 4th, but I wanted to let you know that I understand your frustration — and T-man's too, for that matter. I really think this situation is fundamentally one of mutual misunderstandings: in his own way, T-man is trying to add what he believes to be useful information, and you are trying to clean up after him. However, your respective actions have the effect of infuriating each other, and I don't know how to stop that other than by telling you to try to ignore each other. I know it's frustrating when T-man seems to be obsessively cataloguing your every move and characterizing them unfavorably on his talk page, but it's his talk page space and he can say what he wants there. (In other spaces, you obviously have the right to challenge his perspective, but with the exception of official warnings, Misplaced Pages generally allows people to do what they like with their own user and user talk pages.)

I recognize that T-man is often not easy to work with: he tends to have an idiosyncratic interpretation of guidelines and policies, and to stick to his own interpretation with considerable tenacity. And since his view of you as his "stalker" is such an idée fixe, I think that it's unlikely that you will be successful in helping him to understand when his behavior is crossing the line. However, that's not your job. If you feel frustrated by T-man's behavior, it's OK to ask for a wider perspective from other Wikipedians, but demanding a ban isn't the best way to do that. Just try to remain cool and stay away from him as much as you can. He should do the same. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:11, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Josiah, I appeciate the kind words, and I will be staying away from the guy for a while. Unlike Steve Block, who just berates me despite knowing full well the hurdles of dealing with the wise (?) scarecrow, you demonstrate some real understanding. Thanks. -- Dyslexic agnostic 06:17, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome, D.A. — but I should note that even if Steve seems unsympathetic, that doesn't mean that he's wrong about harassment. Just because you're provoked doesn't mean you have the right to hit back. It's like in elementary school, when you get in trouble for fighting — it doesn't matter who started it, the admins will finish it. I know it doesn't seem fair, but that's the way it has to be if we're to maintain civility here. So if T-man annoys you in future, try to turn the other cheek. It's not easy, but then few important things are. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for the kind words re: the Scottish play. Among other roles, I'm playing the Porter — always fun to make jokes about drunkenness, impotence and pissing and pass it off as culture! —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:30, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

P.P.S. I ought to let you know about a new and important Misplaced Pages policy, in case you missed the relevant discussions. I'm not saying that you were going to violate it, just that it should be kept in mind. Peace out. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Advocate Request

Dear Dyslexic agnostic,

I am requesting your help as an advocate in a dispute with users regarding the article University of California, Riverside.

I posted the following on the Advocate Request page:

University of California, Riverside and user:Amerique I am in a dispute with USER:Amerique over the content of the University of California, Riverside article and am requesting advocacy. Amerique has, in my opinion, has forced his/her POV on editors of the article. When a particular editor respectfully disagreed with Amerique's arguments, he/she filed a RFA against him that was ultimately rejected by 4 arbitors. More recently, Amerique's language has become increasingly more hostile as he/she is attempting to assemble a team editors bent on pushing a biased POV for the University of California, Riverside article (see user:AmeriqueTALK). I feel that an advocate will help me (and others whom are agree with me) work these issues out in a civil manner.

Please feel free to let me know your thoughts on this and if you would be able to help. Thank you.

Best. Insert-Belltower 21:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Blocked for 48 hours

I consider this edit to be a personal attack and as such have blocked you for 48 hours per your probation. You need to refrain from referring to people as boors or ignorant, and especially people with whom you are in dispute with. Note that per your probation the maximum block available to admins is now one year. Steve block Talk 11:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)