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It would be very helpful if you would explain why you think Peck is a better source than the others provided on ]. Please participate in the discussion, and perhaps we can come to a satisfactory conclusion. Thanks. ] (]) 15:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC) It would be very helpful if you would explain why you think Peck is a better source than the others provided on ]. Please participate in the discussion, and perhaps we can come to a satisfactory conclusion. Thanks. ] (]) 15:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

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Hey, will you please revert the guy on the Adana page? Thanks. --Khoikhoi 19:04, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. We've come to a temporary compromise for now by mentioning the massacre but not including any numbers, so you don't have to revert. --Khoikhoi 17:55, 19 March 2006 (UTC)


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UK name

Γεια σου Odysses. I really don't think this anonymous guy is Greek, even though he's posting from Greece. My guess is he's probably an Albanian living in Greece. About the UK, I don't think there was ever a naming conflict in 1973, because the name UK was officially adopted in 1927. See History_of_the_United_Kingdom. So I guess this is not a similar case. --Avg 18:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the "United Kingdom" part goes back to 1707. What it is a United Kingdom of changes a couple of times. "Great Britain" is the name of the island which includes England, Scotland, and Wales. There has never been any political issue between Britain and Brittany because of the name. Nor for that matter between the independent Grand Duchy of Luxembourg and Belgium, which has a province named Luxembourg. I'd be interested to know who makes the strange claim about EU membership and Britain/Brittany. They don't sound very reliable.... --Macrakis 21:57, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, "United Kingdom" is used as a short form all over the place, just as "France" (as opposed to "Republic of France") and "Rhode Island" (as opposed to "State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations") are the normal short forms, but the full form is clearly and definitively the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", both domestically and in international organizations. Tell me, would you be happier if the Republic of Macedonia renamed itself as the United Republic of Great Macedonia and Southern Kosovo? No? I didn't think so.... --Macrakis 22:09, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the long name for France is the "French Republic". --Latinus 22:11, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
And, actually, your example should be United Republics of Parts of Macedonia and Kosovvo. Believe me, I'd have no problem, whatsoever, replacing FYROM with URoPoMaK!! :-)  NikoSilver   00:49, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I read the whole discussion about the FYROM name (Greece-discussion) and I decided to make a few remarks. "FYROM" is no compromise; it is just a temporary (no-)solution, which no party likes: Greece because it loses grounds and more countries recognise FYROM as "Macedonia" and FYROM because it desperately want a final settlement. Hence, the term "FYROM" is no compromise. As fas ar the accession of UK is concerned, I don't think that there was ever a problem with the name. France vetoed UK's accesion for political reasons and because of De Gaulle. Now, if Greece does not veto FYROM's application or if Greece does not impose certain concrete terms, FYROM can become EU's member as "Macedonia"! --Yannismarou 22:10, the 25th of March 2006 (UTC)

List of countries by Coast/Area ratio

Check if you like it :-) It's my FIRST completely new article!  NikoSilver   15:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

FYROM or Republic of Macedonia

After extensive edit warring, article protection, and the statement of the extended version supporting side regarding both the name of the article, and the intro paragraph, a poll has been placed. The brief version supporting side is to keep the name of the article AND the intro paragraph free of the UN name (FYROM). Keep in mind that you can select more than one of the options (8! to the moment) that may suit you. Please participate in the vote and ask other editors you know to do so too. Increased participation can make the outcome of the vote as NPOV as possible.  NikoSilver  16:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Σχετικά με το παραπάνω, πρέπει να δεις αυτό το σχόλιο και να πράξεις αναλόγως. Άμεσα.  NikoSilver  16:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Boris na psifisis tin ke tin epilogi dio. Mas dierun ke nikane, opios theli ta polla hani ke ta liga :-/ Edwy 19:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Σχετικά με το παραπάνω, πρέπει να δεις αυτό και αυτό και να πράξεις αναλόγως. Thanks. --Enas Filos 21:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

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Category Deletion

Please visit and weigh in!  NikoSilver  23:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

POLL

No, no, no, not what you think! This time is for something that all of us need:

Improvement of the <ref> function.

Please weigh in at Misplaced Pages talk:Footnotes#Poll! NikoSilver  18:12, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


Okeanos

The greeks never used their word for ocean, 'okeanos' to designate the Mediterranean, but only the words pontos, pelagos and thalassa. For the ancient greeks ocean meant exclusively 'the river that surrounds the world' outside the mediterranean basin and the known world. The ocean 'comes back on itself' (XVII,399 and 20,65) implying that it is subject to tides. There can be no doubt, because the word used, apsorro-os means 'flowing back'or 'ebbing', the movement after high tide. This word, which is also used for someone going back to Ilium (VII,413) as well as other indications led the Greek geographer Strabo to note that 'Homer was not ignorant about the ebb and flow of Okeanos' and he concluded that several events described by the poet must therefore have taken place in the Atlantic Ocean.

This text is taken from Iman Wilkens book and for further consequenses of his argumentation I refer to Wilkens's books.

212.123.163.102 16:43, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


Odysseus

Looking back trying to find out why I commented on Okeanos I realized that you are interested in the whereabouts of Odysseus' travels. According to Iman Wilkens:

Troy is Gog and Magog Hills near Cambridge;

Ismarus is in Finisterre, Brittany;

After that a storm blowing Odysseus cs. southward, the sails blown out, at the mercy of the wind and current which drives them to Spain. According to Cailleux Odysseus arrives in a bay on the north-west coast of Spain, near the town of El Padron, whose patron saint is San Iago (St James), who, according to legend,arrived by sea with twelve companions ( a reminder of the twelve ships?);

Two days later with strong wind from the north and strong current also to the south they fail to round Cape Malea, which is Cape St. Vincent, south west Portugal and thus failing to go eastward to reach Ithaca (Cadiz, Spain);

Further south by the storm missing Cythera (Morocco);

The land of the lotus-eaters is Senegal;

The land of the Cyclopes is Cape Verde Islands;

Then Following the gulf stream and favourable winds to: The Aeolian Island, which is Saba, Antilles;

The story of the winds, symbolizing this is not a favourable route back to Europe, and thus they are being blown back to the Aeolian Island;

After that following the right direction which is more to the north they reach the land of the Laestrygonians, which is Cuba (Havana);

With the gulf-stream and west-winds they now go to Aeaea, the island of Circe, which is Schouwen (province: Zeeland, town of Zierikzee, south-west Netherlands);

Than Odysseus has to go to Hades, which is Walcheren, one of Zeeland's islands, Zeeland being a province of the Netherlands;

Than back to circe;

After that the Tin-route; Sirens is The Solent (southern England);

Scylla and Charybdis is Mount's Bay, Cornwall;

Thrinacia is Land's End, Cornwall

Now southward again; Ogygia, Island of Calypso, which is St. Miguel, Azores (check vegetation and other characteristics!);

Scheria, Phaeacians is Lanzarote, canary islands;

Intermezzo: Delos is Veluwe-area, Netherlands;

Ithaca Cadiz;

All this, I repeat, according to Iman Wilkens; As you see there is not only a story but also directions for two important sea-routes in the Bronze Age: How to navigate cross the Atlantic, with wind-stills, ruling wind-directions, direction of the gulf-streams and mentioning the most important archipels (Azores, Cape Verde Islands, Antilles, Canary Islands, Cuba) and on the other hand the tin-route to Cornwall, tin being an important substance for manufacturing bronze;

Believable or not, a fantastic theory alltogether in my opinion anyway 212.123.163.102 21:20, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

and another Poll...

Hi. There's a debate about how much "X-ian" one must be in order to be considered "X-American" (or X-Yian for that matter) and be categorized as such. The poll is here: Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. Kindly weigh in! :NikoSilver: 22:02, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Featured article candidates/Macedonia (terminology)

Well, that'll be the first article we're not bitching too much about! :-) :NikoSilver: 22:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Your edits to Cyclopean structures

It would be very helpful if you would explain why you think Peck is a better source than the others provided on the talk page. Please participate in the discussion, and perhaps we can come to a satisfactory conclusion. Thanks. --Akhilleus (talk) 15:56, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

2 Polls that may be of interest...

Hey, kindly check:

Thanks. :NikoSilver: 01:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

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