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| May I please request that you reveal what you meant by the term "non-established users" from the phrase " I'm giving less weight to arguments from non-established |
May I please request that you reveal what you meant by the term "non-established users" from the phrase " I'm giving less weight to arguments from non-established users" that you left in your closing statement for the AFD here | ||
| Thank you for your time. | Thank you for your time. | ||
| Cheers! ] (]) 13:05, 17 April 2015 (UTC) | Cheers! ] (]) 13:05, 17 April 2015 (UTC) | ||
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Spartaz (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)
I'm a long term user (first edit 2006) and have been an admin on or off since 2007. When we first started there was so much idealism and we really had no strong policies about inclusion except a desire to have some level of sourcing. As time moved on we became more structured and around the time I became an admin in 2007 we were grappling with the concept of collapsing non notable articles into lists which I was at the forefront of as a regular afd closer and constant presence at DRV. I had a lot of patience once and for that reason was regular DRV closer for a long time after GR Berry left the project. Sadly, my patience was degraded over time and getting involved in the PORNBIO wars pretty much washed out a lot of the good faith that policy and courtesy quite rightly requires us to show. This was again a major change in our approach to content and one of the first SNGs that was deprecated in favour of a more rigid approach to proper sourcing. Since then our content in this area has become much better and we are seeing similar struggles now in the sports arena where SNGs are slowly giving way to GNG level standards.
I have always taken a very legalistic approach to closing discussions that I recognise does not fit well to the current community standard, where low participation level allowing more brigading of votes or allowing more non-policy based arguments. For this reason I'm not really closing discussions but will still happily review old closes. Otherwise I mostly review and nominate unsuitable content as a BLP is a serious matter and needs to be properly sourced.
i am willing to userfy deleted articles for improvement as long as there is a reasonable likelihood that they can be saved. If you are challenging a deletion, do you have three good sources?
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Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Catharsis (Sworn In EP)
Do you know what exactly am I supposed to do from here? I assume the article isn't suddenly immune from deletion, so... I think it's pretty obvious that article should've ended up deleted. Do I wait and start a second AfD? Take it to Deletion Review? It just seems really weird. — Jeraphine Gryphon 07:40, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- drv will be very unlikely to entertain an appeal for this. The long and the short is that Wgolf should not have canvassed and it destroyed the discussion. I can't see how any of the canvassed users can nominate or participate in future discussions with clean hands. I suggest you leave it someone uninvolved to pick this up in due course. Spartaz 08:21, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Like that's gonna happen. — Jeraphine Gryphon 09:01, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not the one who canvassed and ruined the discussion so its pointless being passive aggressive with me. I have teenage kids so its water off a duck's back. Spartaz 10:32, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's not my fault either, that's why it's so weird, like, this article should've been deleted but didn't because of some bureaucratic technicality, and now the article just sits there and there's nothing I can do about it because, why? I agree that the nominator made a mistake by canvassing, but the result of that doesn't make any sense. ... It's just an article about some EP so I'm gonna let it go now, but I'm not happy about it. It might take literally forever for some uninvolved editor to come out of nowhere and realize that the article could be AfD'd. — Jeraphine Gryphon 12:29, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- I'm not the one who canvassed and ruined the discussion so its pointless being passive aggressive with me. I have teenage kids so its water off a duck's back. Spartaz 10:32, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
- Like that's gonna happen. — Jeraphine Gryphon 09:01, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Inoculation
Hi Spartaz, I think you may have accidentally deleted Inoculation yesterday. The AfD was for Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Inoculator, though that article on an album had been moved to Inoculator (EP). Other than the name it's not related to inoculation.--Cúchullain /c 11:46, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Allied Wallet
Hi Spartaz, I'd like you to change your close of Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Allied Wallet (2nd nomination) as it does not reflect the discussion. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:05, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
inquiry
Hello,
May I please request that you reveal what you meant by the term "non-established users" from the phrase " I'm giving less weight to arguments from non-established users" that you left in your closing statement for the AFD here Thank you for your time. Cheers! WordSeventeen (talk) 13:05, 17 April 2015 (UTC)