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Category:The Slap

Propose deleting Category:The Slap - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Eponymous category for a novel and its two television adaptations. Per WP:OC#EPONYMOUS, every television series does not automatically get one of these just because it exists; a television series gets one of these if, and only if, there's enough spinoff content to justify it for navigational purposes. But with just the three eponyms and nothing else to be filed here, this isn't needed — the three articles can and do already link to each other in body text without requiring a category to keep them bundled. Bearcat (talk) 21:43, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:People from Meizhou

Propose splitting Category:People from Meizhou to Category:People from Meizhou and Category:People of Meizhou descent

Nominator's rationale: Split. Right now, this category (more so, its subcategories by county-level divisions) contains and are explicitly stated to include persons whose ancestries are from Meizhou, but I believe that this is a poor way of trying to serve multiple purposes. Based on the Taishan precedent (see Misplaced Pages:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2012_December_7#Category:Taishanese_people), I believe that a "from" category to serve those who are born there (or, at least, had lived there a substantial amount of time) and a "of descent" category would better reflect reality. --Nlu (talk) 21:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Purge "People from" categories require the person to have a substantial connection with the place, by birth or residence; if it is merely by descent they should be in a descent category. Category:People of Meizhou descent is probably too specific. Rather than create that the purged items should go into a higher level descent category. Should it be "Cantonese"? I am not quite sure. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:01, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:History of the Republic of Kosovo

Propose deleting Category:History of the Republic of Kosovo - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Already exist as Category:History of Kosovo Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 19:35, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Oppose, history of Kosovo refers to the entire history of the Kosovo region, while Republic of Kosovo only refers to the most recent part of history. Note: even if rationale would be right, it should have been a merge proposal instead of a delete proposal. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes, merge would be actually good thing. Please, its empty, can you delete/merge/redirect this, whateveer you think its good. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 18:57, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Why merge? Category:History of the Republic of Kosovo is a subcategory of Category:History of Kosovo. And it has enough articles. Similar situation with Category:History of the Republic of Macedonia and Category:History of Macedonia. Also merge? --Glovacki (talk) 19:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

But what will be in there? I am ok to have it, but why? It would have 10000000 articles then. Macedonia covers far bigger region then Kosovo, and Republic of Macedonia is only part of Macedonia, so those two are not the same. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 20:25, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Oppose'; "History of the Republic of Kosovo" is an entirely reasonable subcategory of "History of Kosovo". bobrayner (talk) 20:03, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

This is Stalker. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 20:25, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

This is Misplaced Pages:Categories for discussion. You decided to delete a category which was recently added to articles on my watchlist. If you have a more coherent or policy-based response, I look forward to it. bobrayner (talk) 20:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Sure, everyone here believe you. Me too. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 20:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:Filmfare Best Tamil Movie Award winners

Propose renaming Category:Filmfare Best Tamil Movie Award winners to Category:Filmfare Best Tamil Film Award winners

Nominator's rationale: "Movie" is informal, and not officially part of the award's title - Filmfare Award for Best Film – Tamil. Kailash29792 (talk) 17:05, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

(If kept) rename per nom. However, is this a sufficiently imnpoortant award to fit the exception in WP:OC#AWARD. The Oscars (Academy Awards) do, but many lesser awards do not. The usual outcome there is Listify and delete. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:05, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:Films released on home video

Propose deleting Category:Films released on home video - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: The most non-defining, over-large category possible. This would be a category for almost every significant film ever. It's far more notable for a film not to have received a home video release. oknazevad (talk) 16:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Delete as being non-defining. Lugnuts 17:00, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Delete. Way too broad to be useful as a category. kennethaw88 • talk 22:02, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Delete but keep the subcategory tree, Category:Direct-to-video films. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:12, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:Culture of Kosala

Propose deleting Category:Culture of Kosala - Template:Lc1

Nominator's rationale: Delete. As discussed in Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics/Archive_57#Request_to_remove.2Fdelete_Category:Kosala_and_its_sub-categories., the category does not have any articles related to Kosala, but all to modern Odisha. --Shiti (talk) 10:20, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Delete Please delete. I also find the same --Jnanaranjan Sahu (ଜ୍ଞାନ) 10:39, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Question Should we merge this with Category:Culture of Odisha?RevelationDirect (talk) 12:36, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Reply: I have already categorized those articles in either 'Culture of Odisha' or according to respective district. Now this unnecessary category (Culture of Kosala) need to be deleted. If some article is missed please categorize it and then delete "Culture of Kosala".--Shiti (talk) 16:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Delete Per nomination and clarification, above. RevelationDirect (talk) 03:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Delete following clarification. We deplore emptying before nomination; but where the outcome might have been a multiple merge, which the nom has effectively already undertaken by adding the target categories, it would be helpful if that was stated. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:08, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:Streets in Attica

Propose Upmerging Category:Streets in Attica to Category:Roads in Attica
Propose Deleting Category:Streets in Greece by region

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OVERLAPCAT and the spirit of WP:C1, an empty category. Attica is the region around Athens. The only thing in this category is Category:Streets in Athens so it's completely redundant with Category:Roads in Attica. Conceptually this category is also problematic: qccording to the article, streets are urbanized roads next to buildings so grouping them by city makes sense; grouping them by rural regions does not. RevelationDirect (talk) 04:08, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Note: Notified PanchoS as the category creator and this discussion has been included in WikiProject Greece. – RevelationDirect (talk) 04:11, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Support per nom, would also merge Category:Streets in Attica to Category:Streets in Greece in order to keep the streets of Athens in the Streets tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:23, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:Firearms manufacturers by nationality

Propose renaming Category:Firearms manufacturers by nationality to Category:Firearms manufacturers by country

Nominator's rationale: By-country subcategories of all "<company type> by country" categories are named "... of country", per Misplaced Pages:Category names#Companies. In this case, the applicable conventions are Category:Defence companies by country (not nationality) and Category:Manufacturing companies by country (again, not nationality). -- Black Falcon 00:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Speedy rename per WP:C2C. kennethaw88 • talk 22:05, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
Support for parent However, keep the rest. The criterion should be where the factory lies not which country it belongs to, so that we should kep the "in" format. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:12, 4 May 2015 (UTC)