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The Signpost, 1 April 2015

ISB

I know your still off, but when you get back I was wondering if you can help me with something. I have been working on the Changing Horses album by the ISB for some time now. I need to add some more background info, and I'll have a book soon called Gently Tender that will describe the recording sessions. So I wanted to get an exact release date, but all I can find is November 1969. Could you possibly direct me to something that potentially has exact release dates? Big help if you could, thanks and get back soon! TheGracefulSlick ( talk) April 4, 2015 22:07

Sorry, can't find a specific date. I'll copy-edit your ISB articles a little when I have some time - not sure when that will be as I'll be away for a week or two. But, before I go, I'll be off down the road (literally a hundred yards or so away) to see Mr Williamson himself - - should be a treat! Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:19, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 08 April 2015

Rotherham Sex Scandal Article

Hello Ghmyrtle, I hope you are well? I've reverted your revert on the Guardian cite because in this case I believe it is relevant considering the degree of anger over the use of the weasel-word 'Asian' rather than 'Muslim' (re: Rotherham Sex Scandal) by said community in relation to child sex abuse, Iman Amrani is a very respected Algerian British freelance journalist who happens to be Muslim and brought neutrality to the issue which I believe has great credence and although it was in the commentary section on this occasion she often writes for the paper in other sections. Best wishes as always. Twobells 10:30, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

Update, I see you've used a 2nd argument for removal, please let me quote from the piece: She went on to conclude that “one of these myths was that only white girls are victims of sexual exploitation by Asian or Muslim males, as if these men only abuse outside of their own community, driven by hatred and contempt for white females.. Twobells 10:33, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

The source does not support the claim that the criminals concerned were "of the Muslim faith". Also, you have duplicated a sentence... and you persist in using bare URLs rather than proper citation styles - please see WP:IC and WP:BAREURLS. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:38, 11 April 2015 (UTC)

User:Montanabw/Duck box

Hi, I don't mean to involve you in this, but it's concerning. Apparently, I'm being deemed a sock puppet because I'm both a teenager and like older music. I tried to get the user to remove me from the list, since the grounding is meaningless, but no luck. Perhaps you could have a take on it, since you have been here longer. TheGracefulSlick (talk)

Check out the Garage rock article!!!

I have made some additions and improvements to the Garage rock article that I think you will really love. I feel that I have done so with the trust you have placed in me as an editor--and I think you will be satisfied. Of course, if you see anything that could be improved, go right ahead. I made mentions of the changes made, under one of the threads on the talk page of that article. Thanks. Garagepunk66 (talk) 00:35, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

I also added a well-sourced section about the female bands, that I think you would like to see. I did't list sources for the last sentence, because all that it does is enumerate the names of bands, in blue, that already have articles. I checked to make sure all articles mentioned were sourced. However, if need be, I can cite references in that sentence too, if you think it would be a good idea. My comments on the Pleasure Seekers are sourced, but I noticed that the article on them needs more references and citations. Most of its contents look correct, to my best judgment, but we are going to have to make some improvements on that article. TheGracefulSlick (talk), has indicated that she would like to get better sourcing in some of these articles. Garagepunk66 (talk) 20:57, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
"...she..."  ?? Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:01, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I just learned that "she" is a he. Oh well, its the 21st century! Wiki's keepin' up with the times.Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:30, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the touch-ups in the "Female garage bands" section. As you can see, I was really struggling with the opening phrase. I like that way you have worded it. Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:45, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Don Robey

Thanks for the assist. I like my new edit much more than the previous. Howzzat? Tapered (talk) 16:44, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

OK. The article does need expanding though - some direct quotes from musicians, etc., would be good to include. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

http://www.thesoulbasement.com/Site/Duke-Peacock.html More information on Robey-some of which could be included can be found above. dorkinglad (talk)

You're a legend! Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:13, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Blimey Adrian is being a tad OTT! Legend indeed! I'm not even that well known in my own house. We have a good laugh when we meet up for a Radio Show. I'm doing a Candi Staton special with Adrian next month if you are interested. I've just checked the Don Robey Misplaced Pages entry and put some comments. The article is very biased against Robey and needs serious editing. I don't think the guy who wrote it will let people edit though. dorkinglad (talk)

Re Robey - I've commented on the talk page, and made an initial change to the opening para. I don't think you should have any worries about any particular editor - the one you're thinking of has certainly made some changes to the article, but so have I (here, back in 2006, for example); there are many other editors who might have an interest in the article (it might be interesting to know what Pstoller thinks, for example!); and we are all under an equal requirement to stay neutral and balanced. I will happily re-edit the article at some point, but the next couple of weeks might be difficult for me. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:51, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
I'll take a look when I have some time. Robey was no angel, but he deserves a lot of credit for his accomplishments, and his entry should be balanced to reflect that. Pstoller (talk) 05:16, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Sandy Edmonds

You always have an expertise at finding info so I was wondering if you could find the birth date of Sandy Edmonds, a pop idol who was popular in the 1960s in New Zealand. She is the focus of my upcoming article, so it would be a huge help. ( TheGracefulSlick ( talk)

Looks like you've done well already! It seems she was born in 1948 (not 1949), at Ormskirk, which is a few miles outside Liverpool. This official record (but subscription-only) says she was born Rosalie L Edmondson. Not sure whether you've seen these sites - , , , , , , , , , ... etc. Certainly worthy of an article - good find! Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
PS: Any reason why you usually sign using only three of these ~ instead of four? WP:SIGHOW - four tildes is usual practice, and it helps keep track of who did what when (which can become important in any disputes, etc.) Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:35, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, greatly appreciated, I saw some, but not all of these sources. This will be a big help when I start writing later today. And it is good I have confirmation on the date. I will try to use the right signature again, sorry. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 5:37 14 April 2015

Great earrings!!..... !!... and !!!!. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:49, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Oh my gosh, you are right! Such an intriguing woman. I don't know why her manager didn't like her singing, I thought it was genuinely good. Surprisingly, in one of my many boxes of CDs, I found a compilation of her work. Funny how that works, I guess I knew her longer than I expected. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 8:27, 14 April 2015

I created the Sandy Edmonds article, and cannot thank you enough for your help with the references. Big help, I enjoyed learning and writing about her and listening to her music. I will continue to add slight improvements to it when I see neccessary. Again thanks for all your help, you make this even more enjoyable for me, and probably many others. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:30, 16 April 2015

Sorry for the "the hospital" over just "hospital" thing. I know it is minor, but I do not want you to think I was trying to contradict you. Just my darn American diction, I suppose :). I plan to add a discography to the page, and some minor tweaks if there is anything else I find after rereading it. My next project will be about Neal Ford and the Fanatics, but I think I will edit some albums for awhile before getting to that subject. Hope everything is going well for you and thanks again.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 19:20, 17 April 2015

No problem at all. After I go and see Robin Williamson tonight, I'll be offline for a couple of weeks - have fun! Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:46, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Tammi Terrell

Hi, Sorry about the incorrect information on Tammi/Ernie Terrell. I've just spent a half hour trying to prove that they did marry. I can't find anything conclusive. The rumour seems to have started at the time of her first record for Motown. The ever sharp Berry Gordy thought Montgomery, her actual surname was too long, even though she had recorded all ready under that name. (information from 'The Complete Motown singles Vol 5'). BTW I see a mention of record producer Don Robey on your page. I once wrote an article on him that is now on the net on the 'Basement Sounds' website. best Greg dorkinglad (talk)

Thanks. Yes, it's best not to reinforce false information that's around on the web - and which has been repeated by several authoritative writers, sad to say. I think the consensus among the people who knew her well - including her sister - is that she and Ernie Terrell didn't know each other, and the story about Berry Gordy renaming her because the name Montgomery was too long is correct. No doubt some of the confusion is that Jean Terrell of the Supremes was Ernie's sister. Re Don Robey - yes, his tangled story needs a lot of rewriting here. I'll try to get round to it sometime, if no-one else gets in first, but I probably can't work on it immediately as I'll be away. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Anti-British sentiment

Hi, If you think that the one line that currently exists is justified I have nothing more to say to you.

Came across a really bad (!!!) article!!!

I just stumbled across the worst article I have ever seen called Freak scene!!! I cannot decide whether or not the whole thing is a complete farce. It seems as if the editors there just want to make up a whole new definition of an imagined past subculture and musical genre out of thin air. It has almost no sources. Looks like the whole thing needs to go the trash heap (or at least get a radical makeover). It's so bad, its good! Check it out! Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:34, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

I agree - I've commented there. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:24, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I just noticed your improvements to this article. It looks a lot better now! Garagepunk66 (talk) 23:48, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

US 'Won't Get Wales'

Quite amazing. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:46, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

One wonders if they would even be helped by suitable hand gestores. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:54, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Vendetta?

Not at all. I see some articles which I don't believe have notability some with false claims in the beginning of the passages and some with few if any notable sources. CrazyAces489 (talk) 13:53, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

What "false claims"? Your claim that Dinah Washington "sang in a rock band" is bizarre, and untrue. I'm confident that the articles meet notability guidelines (indeed, one of them went through AFD just a few weeks ago). If you have a problem with the articles, help improve them. Given that all the articles you've nominated for deletion in the last few minutes have been written by a single editor, the idea that - for some reason - you are pursuing a vendetta is by no means "ridiculous". Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:55, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Grace Slick was before Barb. I am helping to improve them. A notability tag. I can understand based on your editing history that you have an interest in keeping these articles up. They do have to be notable. A tag is easily placed on an article and articles created is easily viewable. I placed a tag on and you didn't remove that one! Past that, don't go on my talk page again. Thank you. CrazyAces489 (talk) 14:02, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm aware of the notability guidelines, and of Grace Slick. As I suggested, we are talking about (apparently) a new, young, and highly enthusiastic editor - the sort of person who we should be encouraging. Most of their articles need to be improved, with better references, and more encyclopedic language. That can easily be done, given time. Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

It appears the user is putting up the Bo Street Runners for deletion, and attacked other articles I wrote. Sorry for getting you involved, but the user is taking things too personally. TheGracefulSlick ( talk) 11:05, 15 April 2015

Mmm.. See Misplaced Pages:Deletionists. So long as you can defend your articles in terms of the notability guidelines - and different editors interpret them differently - there shouldn't really be a problem. Annoying, though, I know. Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:18, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Noted, I don't take the user to be a deletionist, I just think he/she was angry with my agreement that their page was not notable. Anyways, I think everyone will see my article was notable, so no harm done. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 11:37, 16 April 2015

P.S. he is in discussion with a user to reopen the Toggery Five case. So yes, it's very annoying. TheGracefulSlick (talk) 11:55, 16 April 2015

TheGracefulSlick brought to my attention this highly contentious situation, which has resulted in him being temporarily blocked--which has me very concerned. It is sad that certain editors with negative agendas want to destroy his enthusiasm for contributing to Wiki--and want to go on a "deletionsit" frenzy against well-sourced articles covering rare, but antique/collectable musical acts. I appreciate the support for such editors as TheGracefulSlick that you have communicated in this thread. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:44, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 April 2015

The Signpost: 22 April 2015

Made a few changes to heading in "Freak scene" article

I made a few modifications to heading in Freak scene article. I think that you will agree that the new wording is more accurate and better conforms to the sourced material in the article as well as public perception. I left an explanation on the talk page there. Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:54, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Amy Gentry

Updated DYK queryOn 28 April 2015, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Amy Gentry, which you recently created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a pioneer of women's rowing, Amy Gentry, assisted Barnes Wallis with his experiments to develop a bouncing bomb? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Amy Gentry. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, live views, daily totals), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:03, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Harry Thomas, Prestatyn

Your edit of 14:12, 11 April 2015‎

Google "harry thomas" welsh historian

2nd item: The link www.gwasg.com/buy-online/how-to-buy-our-books-online.html is now defunct, but
http://www.gwasg.com/buy-online/ lists Harry Thomas books.
3rd item: http://www.meliden.org.uk/?page_id=1055
also lists Harry Thomas books.

So Harry Thomas does/did exist, and has written books; And I think it's quite legitimate to mention him.


P.S. I live in Prestatyn, but I didn't put in the info. that you've just deleted.
PS2. You don't need to be very notable to be a significant person in a small town like Prestatyn.
PS3. Frazier Mohawk - The guidance says that non-valid links should be tagged as rather than deleted.
81.132.99.174 (talk) 22:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 April 2015

Sailing, We Are Sailing....

How was A Life on the Ocean Wave ? - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 21:29, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

Fine. But, as for life back here.... Grrrrrrrrrr................. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:38, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Need help w/ Bill Mitchell article: need a photo of him and a slight change of name of article

I was wondering if you could help in finding a free public domain photograph of Bill Mitchell for the article bearing his name. Also there seems to be a consensus there that the present title, "Bill Mithcell (designer)," of the article is not sufficient, because it is not specific about what he designed. Because he was an automotive designer, the name of the article should read something like "Bill Mitchell (automotive designer)" or "Bill Mitchell (automobile designer). I was wondering if you could help with these things. Also: I will try and get more sourcing for the article. Garagepunk66 (talk) 22:12, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't help with that. My experiences on finding and uploading appropriate images are not good... and in any case I'm suffering PC problems at the moment that are limiting my time here. (And, I'm afraid the article subject isn't really of interest to me.) Good luck! Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:37, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

No problem. I understand. I hope that the computer issues get resolved. I've had the same thing happen to mine on a number of occasions. Garagepunk66 (talk) 18:37, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Then tell me what this page is about,

https://commons.wikimedia.org/File:UK-Motorway-M14.svg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silentsilence32 (talkcontribs) 02:36, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

No idea. It's an image someone has designed. There is no M14 motorway (or MI4, as you had it) in the UK. This describes it as a "fantasy road", if the A14 in East Anglia were ever upgraded to motorway standard. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:48, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 06 May 2015

Welcome back

I had no idea you were back from break, everything has been so busy. Hope everything when you were away went well and I look forward to working with you again in the future.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:12, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

Darling Belle

If you have time, I was wondering if you could give an opinion on whether or not I should write about an ISB song called, "Darling Belle". I was reading about the song in the Be Glad book, and a whole chapter was devoted to the it. Two other books also give a considerable mention to the song. You can be honest, I won't be offended if you say no. I know it would be a bit of a stretch, though I thought "The White Ship" song was a stretch too. Anyways, I have a lot of ideas I have listed on my sandbox, so I can still write about something, regardless. Peace :) TheGracefulSlick (talk) 01:56, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Hmm... Not sure. Certainly not my favourite ISB period, and I doubt whether there are sufficient independent sources to justify an article. But, it's up to you. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:17, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 13 May 2015

Album name

Why is The Electric Prunes (album) titled as such, even though it is really called I Had Too Much to Dream (Last Dream)? It says it in the Infobox, so it is conflicting between the two.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 11:08, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Apparently it was moved back in 2007 in this edit. I suggest you raise it on the article talk page. The conflicting text should certainly be resolved, but the problem is that on the original label (for example here) it was simply called The Electric Prunes. Back in those days it was common for the titles of the leading tracks to be listed on the front cover of the LP, without necessarily giving their name to the LP itself. But, it's a moot point and we can discuss it further on the article talk page. Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:16, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
Ok thanks, will do. I was more concerned with the conflicting titles rather than which one was more correct. And thanks for your view on the "Darling Belle" idea, it was not particularly my favorite era either, but it has an interesting story. I prefer Hangman or 5,000 Spirits over Liquid Acrobat on any day, and you have a point that there may not be enough sources. I will consider it more after I finish my next article and complete the editing for (hopefully) my first GA article.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 12:36, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Mean Old World

I was looking for some sources to expand "Mean Old World" and found: "Many of what would become T-Bone's trademark licks are on display , including his classic unison bend from the G to B strings that Chuck Berry would appropriate a decade later." This appears in bars 7–8 (about :28–:31) on the Capitol "MOW" single (I didn't notice it on "IGABB"). Berry uses it in bars 4–8 of "Johnny B. Goode" (about :06–:12). Is this the same lick that is referred to in the Origins of rock and roll#1940s article? (I wasn't aware that James used it). If it's something else, do you have a ref that describes it? —Ojorojo (talk) 17:42, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

I didn't write those words - I may have accepted them in good faith when editing that article, but I'm not sure where they came from. I am not a musician or musicologist, so I'm afraid I can't really help with this - I think it's a subject where your expertise far outweighs mine, and I've no objection if you correct or remove it. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:39, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 20 May 2015

Emmerdale

WHY ARE YOU PLAYING THE PROXY FOR A VANDAL? --Hash Tag 444 (talk) 11:02, 21 May 2015 (UTC)

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