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Minor edit

I changed "She is an expert on" to "Her research interests include" (that's what http://www.claymath.org/fas/research_fellows/Mirzakhani/ says). She may be an expert on what her dissertation was about, but we'll need sources to say she's an expert on the other topics. --Ishi Gustaedr 00:07, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

What is her ethnicity? Persian, Kurdish, Azerbaijani, etc? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.20.63.194 (talk) 10:36, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

One author of the article had confused the Fields Medal award committee with the Fields Institute. The latter is a Canadian research institute in Ontario. It has nothing to do with the selection of the Fields Medal laureates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.68.227.77 (talk) 18:35, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

Persian women's movement

I removed the link to the Persian women's movement because it made it seem (to me at least) that she belonged to some organization for Persian women. If she has some documented involvement in promoting Persian women, then it probably should be put back (with a reference). If it's just there because she's a Iranian woman with a Misplaced Pages article, well there's probably a lot of other Misplaced Pages articles that would qualify to have it as well. --Ishi Gustaedr 22:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

where does she live rigth now? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.255.27.157 (talk) 01:08, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

Sources for early (teenage) work

I removed a reference on the "Recognized locally as a brilliant teenager" line because it was from a recent USA Today article that recognizes her later work as brilliant. We are looking for some sources that touch on her early years perhaps before "she found international recognition" from the Math Olympiads. --Ishi Gustaedr 19:45, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Peacock tag

With this edit, 81.208.106.77 (Talk) added the {{peacock}} tag without any indication of what part of the article is objectionable. I'll guess it is the "Recognized locally as a brilliant teenager" line (which you can see above we are looking for a source for). I've left a message here and on the user's talk page. If there is no clarification in the next few days, I'll remove the tag. --Ishi Gustaedr (talk) 18:36, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Lead

I reordered the lead to make the prize the first element of the 2nd paragraph, as its the most important element of her notability (so far). I also added what she won the award for, which was not in the lead. I then removed the "2nd middle easterner" part, because once you get beyond firsts, its detracts from the snappiness of the prose.Two kinds of pork (talk) 03:13, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Protection

The article should be (semi-)protected to stop the ongoing edit war. She is an Iranian "expat" in USA. If she belongs to irans azeri/azerbeijani ethnic group, this can be mentioned, if there are CREDIBLE sources. But there is no justification for misusing Mirzakhani and the award for (the promotion of) a nationalism or an irredentism. There a conventions on[REDACTED] and Nelson Mandela was of course primarily a South African politician and only secondarily of Xhosa ethnicity.--Severino (talk) 09:52, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

her father (Ahmad Mirzakhani)is from Shemiran and mother... Tehran,she is a Persian not a Azeri and about 'usazeris.org'... It is not a reputable site.Kasparjust (talk) 11:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Press release

Hello. I added the IMU press release to External links. This PDF file is in the public domain. If it was a source and I missed it, feel free to delete. Also I added a "notable citation" template above. The wording isn't exactly right but it's okay for lack of another one. You editors did such a great job that the IMU links Mirzakhani's name from their website to this article. -SusanLesch (talk) 18:07, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Iranian vs American mathematician

82.8.62.228 (talk) 18:47, 18 August 2014 (UTC) I do not understand why there is a dicussion on this point. The[REDACTED] page of all Fields Medal winners mentions their nationality, why should this one not follow the same pattern? Whether you want to present yourself as a Russian or Dutch physicists is entirely your decision, but it is not up to you to choose for other people. Prof Mirzakhani is Iranian, not American: her birthplace and citizenship are both Iranian: this fact is documented in various sources, including media. The place where you live does not change your citizenship unless you request it to. Some Iranian-born scientists who work in the US have US passports and may be described as Iranian-American but it is not the case here, unless you present some source of evidence.

Moreover, as pointed out by YmBlanter, your claims are utterly incorrect: she did the first half of her studies in Iran, she won her Olympiad medal as part of the Iranian national team then studied at Sharif University in Iran for her BSc.

The lede currently says "Iranian mathematician", and my attempt to change this was reverted within ten minutes. As a matter of fact, the nationality should not play any role here. She did not work a singe day in Iran, therefore she could not be an Iranian mathematician (despite the fact that she is Iranian, and of Iranian origin). The fact that she works in the US makes her an American mathematician, and her citizenship is absolutely irrelevant here. Yes, she is an American mathematician of Iranian origin - but WP:LEDE does not recommend to state the origin in the lede, therefore for the lede she must be an American mathematician. (Same way as I am a Dutch physicist because I am employed by a Dutch university, despite the fact that I still have Russian passport). Previously, the lede said Iranian-American mathematician, but even this was reverted.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:02, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

@User:Ymblanter: Being American/Iranian/Dutch/etc is a legal term. In the latest version of her CV, she describes her citizenship as "Iranian". Regarding the working etc, she has published an academic paper and a famous book on number theory during her BSc study in Iran. Taha (talk) 19:32, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Good, then she is American and Iranian mathematician (or Iranian and American, I do not care). This is not about citizenship, this is about affiliation.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:36, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Please ignore the extra random facts that I provided after my second sentence and just take a brief look at the Citizenship article. Taha (talk) 20:43, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I did. I absolutely do not dispute the fact that she is an Iranian citizen.--Ymblanter (talk) 20:49, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

We have a source saying that she was a citizen of Iran in 2006. Long time ago. Did she become a USA citizen? Roger (talk) 23:51, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

The fact that she is a longtime resident of California,made things complicated.I mean,given the fact that she has done some extraordinary research with regards to her age,and being a professor at Stanford University,she is definitely eligible to receive EB-1 or EB-2 Visas. Please notice that it's been a longtime that she resides in US,and If we do not consider the time period which she's been a student at Harvard University,she absolutely needed some kind of Visa remain in US for such a longtime after her graduation. I believe she has one of these Visas which I have mentioned above. She just decided not express it publicly. 2.178.218.59 (talk) 01:44, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Please do not enter your speculations as facts in the article. She is an Iranian and the media points to this. Even acquiring a citizenship does not automatically make you of that country as Gérard Depardieu is not a russian actor. As per living in California, it does not prove anything regarding her nationality. Terence Tao has been living there way before here while he's never being called an American guy. Please accept the reality that an Iranian has won this prize.--Drako (talk) 03:51, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

It's largely a matter of self identification. If she becomes a US citizen, and says "I'm American", then tag her as such.Two kinds of pork (talk) 04:32, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

• Good, I see I was already accused in POV and adding unsourced material, whereas nobody here really addresses my point preferring to attack a strawman. Well, continue without me. I do not have absolutely any interest in this article.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:51, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

  Copied from MOS:BLPLEAD (which is a guideline):

#Context (location, nationality, or ethnicity);

1. 1. In most modern-day cases this will mean the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable.
   2. Ethnicity or sexuality should not generally be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability. Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability.

--Ymblanter (talk) 08:11, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

According to your logic, Messi would be a spanish footballer, not an argentinian, Fabio Luisi an american conductor, not an italian and so forth. Your self-assessment is irrelevant here. Mirzakhanis self-assessment would be of greater importance. About the guidelines you posted: Do you have proof that she is american citizen? This is the only relevant point here. In this case, describing her as Iranian-American would be proper.--Severino (talk) 08:36, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

First, the guideline says explicitly that the residence (in her case, place of work) is important, irrespectively of the citizenschip, and the point whether she is a US citizen is completely irrelevant; it says nothing about self-assessment. Second, as I stated before, I would not object to describing her as Iranian-American mathematician, but other users for whatever reason do not want "American" mentioned in the lede despite the fact she is working at the US university.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:00, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Read your own edit: "...the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident...". Not "irrespectively of the citizenship"! And I meant YOUR self-assessment with which you began the thread and which you cite as an example for the description of Mirzakhani.--Severino (talk) 09:30, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Again: in her case, since she is a long-time current US resident (nobody disputes this?) the guideline says that this fact should be mentioned in the lede. For this, it is irrelevant whether she is a US citizen or not. I really fail to understand what is ambiguous here.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:33, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

The issue of Nationality is vague and ambiguous. At least there are 5 ways to define the Nationality: 1) Nationality as ethnicity,2) Nationality as Citizenship,3) Nationality as current place of living or working, 4) Nationality as the place where someone grows up and raising, and 5) Nationality as cultural and family-based self-determination. If we consider these together,I think it's better to add "American" to the lede. In larger scheme,it seems it would be better to replace nationality with birthplace in all biographies to preserve neutrality policy of Misplaced Pages articles. Rezameyqani (talk) 09:34, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

It seems that the gaps in editors opinions about subject of Prof. Mirzakhani's nationality is much wider than previously thought, and it may result in serious dispute whether her nationality should be mentioned or her birthplace,or even her current residency. So I suggest that we bring this issue to the Mediation Committe.Do you agree? Rezameyqani (talk) 10:41, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

To be honest, I do not have time for it. If I am the only one thinking the lede should mention she is an American mathematician, just drop it.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:50, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

@Ymblanter No,You are not.At least I support your views. Rezameyqani (talk) 11:03, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I haven't checked yet if Ymblanters guidelines are cited correct but what he posted here is this:

"...the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident, or if notable mainly for past events, the country where the person was a citizen, national or permanent resident when the person became notable...previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability.." So this seems to be a matter of discretion: citizenship or residence, now or when she/he became notable or in the past (when notable). Iranian-American would be Ok for me.--Severino (talk) 14:25, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

I think there are two possible solution to reslove this dispute: 1)introducing her as an Iranian-American ,2)introducing her as an Iraninan-born mathematician who currently resides in California,US,and removing nationality in scientist infobox(my preferred solution). If we could not reach a consensus on this dispute,I strongly recommend referring to the Mediation Committee. Your comments are welcomed. Rezameyqani (talk) 15:31, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

To be clear, there should not be any dispute about her citizenship as a legal status. She herself declares her citizenship as Iranian. Thus, she is an Iranian who resides at California. Taha (talk) 18:28, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Just a remark that the CV is from 2005.--Ymblanter (talk) 18:33, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the CV is from 2005 which looks a bit outdated, but please note that there are plenty of sources out there who claims that she is an Iranian mathematician. I do not understand why we should call her an American or even Iranian-American, while there is no source for American citizenship (this would be OR). But, "an Iranian mathematician who currently works/resides in America", looks OK to me. -- Bkouhi (talk) 21:36, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

The CV which @Taha mentioned is dated back to 2005. In that time period, she was a research fellow at Clay institute . After that , she was appointed as an assistant professor of mathematics at Princeton university and shortly after in 2008, she is appointed as a professor at Stanford university. As we can see, many changes happened to Prof. Mirzakhani's career, that has not been mentioned in that CV. So, anyone can cast doubt on the credibility of that CV, and I believe we must discuss CV's credibility,too. Also, without any doubt, being a professor at a university, is a job! According to US residency laws, any foreigner who wants to work in US,he/she must have some kind of employment Visa. If you look at the Misplaced Pages article about permanent residency in US, you will find out that some employment visas will eventually lead to permanent US residency(i.e. EB-1 or EB-2). So I believe that the best way to end this dispute is to contact with her or her legal representative to obtain reliable information about citizenship. Finally,I think my proposal about editing this article(i.e.introducing her as an Iraninan-born mathematician who currently resides in California,US,and removing nationality in scientist infobox)can help us to reach a consensus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rezameyqani (talk • contribs) 22:40, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

You can't write "Iranian-American" unless you find a reliable source that says she is a US citizen or a reliable source saying that she identifies as an American (which lots of foreign academics working in the USA do not). You don't even know if she has a permanent US visa. I know academics who have lived longer than her in the USA and just renew their temporary visas every few years. Misplaced Pages is intended as an encyclopaedia which ordinary people can visit to learn some facts. Don't expect them to dig into the arcana of Misplaced Pages rules in order to understand what the first sentence of the article really means; just tell them the facts you can source in a way they will understand. The known facts are that she is Iranian and that she has lived in the USA since whenever it was. Just say that and let the readers decide to think of her as Iranian-American or not. Zero 04:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Another reason is that Iranian-American says "Iranian-Americans, or Persian-Americans, are Americans of Iranian (Persian) ancestry or people possessing Iranian and American dual citizenship." while Americans says "Americans, or American people, are citizens of the United States of America.". So US citizenship is required both ways if you aren't going to contradict Misplaced Pages itself. Zero 04:45, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

• If there are no further objections I am going to change the lede to "Iranian mathematician working in the United States". My understanding that this is the consensus in this discussion, and also compliant with the Manual of Style.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:27, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. Please remove nationality from scientist info box, because in "Born" section in info box it's mentioned the she was born in Iran. Thank you Rezameyqani (talk) 08:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Oppose, there is no reason to remove the nationality from the Infobox, I think it should explicitly mentioned, the "Born" section has nothing to do with the nationality and I see no point in removing the nationality from the Infobox. -- Bkouhi (talk) 13:23, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

@Bkouhi If you can give me a CLEAR definition of "Nationality", I withdraw my proposal.I believe the subject of birthplace is far less disputable and far more agreeable than subject of nationality. We must create consensus,and not to insist on things that separate us.Thank you. Rezameyqani (talk) 15:55, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

"Iranian mathematician working in the United States" would be fine in my opinion. Infobox is something else.--Severino (talk) 16:33, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

@Rezameyqani: I think we don't need to define the "nationality" word, it is not our duty to define something (WP:OR). We have sources that claims that she is an Iranian (in other words, her nationality is Iranian), the source has already defined the "nationality" word, all we need to do is just quote the source. This would be OR if we try to define the "nationality" word, IMO. -- Bkouhi (talk) 16:58, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

@Bkouhi You are claiming that you have sources that claim she is an Iranian.what kind of sources they are?you probably mean the outdated CV. Am I right? In that CV we can see citizenship,and I think you think that nationality is equal to citizenship.Am I right about this? Rezameyqani (talk) 17:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

She's born in Iran, grown up there, has been part of the IRANIAN national team, has studied in an Iranian university and has won several national titles in IRAN, herself has clearly stated that she's IRANIAN, what you'll are saying here is beyond me. What the hell of a source should one provide to prove she is from that place? Can someone please tell me what is all this deliberate targeting of this article about? Why doesn't anyone talk about Talk:Martin Hairer who's Austrian and is living in the UK? Or Terence Tao who is Australian and lives in the US? Please stop this baseless fruitless discussion and accept what the sources tell you. Drako (talk) 04:52, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

OK,Do whatever you want.I whithdraw completely.you do not want to even read what I was written here properly.bye. Rezameyqani (talk) 08:49, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

The situation with Hairer is even worse, since he actually never lived in Austria (was born and studied in Geneva), but him I know in person and do not want to deal with that article because of possible conflict of interests.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:52, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Ymblanter, I suggest you not to discuss the matter of the professor Mirzakhani's"Nationality" here anymore.You know why?Because there are people here whom they are complete definition of this French proverb:"Celui qui dort peut être réveillé, mais quelqu'un dont il prétend qu'il dort ne peut pas être réveillé."Rezameyqani (talk) 08:49, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Rezameyqani: Please be more considerate, we are not pretending to sleep, if you want to say something, say it with civility, talking that way will get you nowhere. In regard to sources, just Google it, you will find plenty of them: , , . -- Bkouhi (talk) 10:16, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

@Bkouhi,I already told you,I do not have anymore time to spare on this discussion,Is this clear enough? I'm gradually understand why there is so much debate about the credibility of Misplaced Pages articles.There are some "editors" here who do not even know what kind of sources are reliable.This is why there is course in top universities for analyzing the references.I suggest you to read the stories of vigorous efforts by Dr Gholamhossein Mossaheb ,the Chief editor of Persian Encyclopedia.Senior editors always was complaining about his methods,You know why?because he never trusted contents of newspapers or magazines,unless they give a reliable and updated evidence.This is what a true encyclopedia does.Not like the flow of editing in almost any Misplaced Pages articles.Rezameyqani (talk) 10:40, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Controversy

There is also an issue raised here. Roger (talk) 23:51, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

I see someone removed the section in question. I agree with removing the bizarre speculation about going back to Iran and facing lashing, but I would have kept the news that the President of Iran congratulated her, and tweeted a picture without a head scarf. Roger (talk) 00:23, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

That would be OK. The opinion of members of the iranian regime about a woman w/o a scarf are given to much importance in the version which was posted; beside the fact that it was mainly speculation.--Severino (talk) 08:29, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Mr. Rouhani does not have a tweeter (sic) account, I learned at Misplaced Pages:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Maryam_Mirzakhani. I'm sorry, but the news is bogus. --rtc (talk) 10:38, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

Thank you rtc for the clarification. Since two more users were changing the part, I removed the entire twitter thing to reach some consensus and perhaps put something in the article. These are the sources:

• Davos, Bobby Ghosh / (2014-01-23). "No, Iran's Rouhani Doesn't Tweet". TIME.com. Retrieved 2014-08-18. {{cite web}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: date and year (link)
• Times of Israel staff (2014-08-18). "Iran denies Rouhani tweeted a Rosh Hashanah greeting". The Times of Israel. Retrieved 2014-08-18. {{cite web}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)CS1 maint: date and year (link)

I still doubt whether this matter deserves any coverage at all. Anyhow, please express your opinion about this. Taha (talk) 06:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I predict that if you don't mention it at all, something will be constantly re-added by random users, and it will probably be less accurate. --rtc (talk) 12:15, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

I support removing the material per WP:UNDUE. Kaldari (talk) 19:46, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Nationality or Birthplace?

82.8.62.228 (talk) 18:40, 18 August 2014 (UTC) Why should it be removed? Prof MIRZAKHANI is Iranian, and this fact is documented in various sources, including media. Do you have any problem with that? The[REDACTED] page of all Fields Medal winners mentions their nationality, why should this one not follow the same pattern?

• Call her Iranian That is what the sources say. They don't say American or Iranian-American. Two kinds of pork (talk) 18:50, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
  • In fact the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation has called her Iranian-American: . —David Eppstein (talk) 23:43, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Headscarf and tweets

Can someone explain why this is in the article? Just because some newspapers reported on it, doesn't mean we should use it without explaining the significance of this.Two kinds of pork (talk) 06:07, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

research work

Why is the president of Iran congratulating her in the section discussing her research?--345Kai (talk) 00:19, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

working in the US?

It is redundant to say in the first line she's working in the US when next sentence asserts that she's a Stanford professor. --Drako (talk) 22:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

It is also redundant to say she is Iranian whereas the infobox states this. There are many people who know what the US is and much less who know where Stanford is located. Additionally, she spent her entire career in the US starting with the grad school, not just in Stanford.--Ymblanter (talk) 05:39, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

This is putting way too much weight as the place of residence which is not supported by the wiki policies. Nowhere you find articles opened like this. If they do not know, it can be written like Standord University, California, USA. No need to add such a fabricated thing.--Drako (talk) 06:42, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

It has to be added per manual of style. Additionally, in the topic above I discussed the addition and got consensus for it.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Pictures/images of her

lt would be nice if someone could upload her photo. 212.174.135.252 (talk) 15:11, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

I concur. - LouisAragon (talk) 15:02, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

On the issue of residence...

@David Eppstein The first sentence states:"Maryam Mirzakhani (Persian: مریم میرزاخانی‎; born May 1977) is an Iranian mathematician in the United States". By "In the United States",what are we trying to say?She just works in US,but resides elsewhere?She resides in US and works there too?it's vague.Besides,There should not be any reason to get concerned for including her current residence in the first sentence,since her page states that she resides in US.Rezameyqani (talk) 21:09, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

We should list the nation that she lives in and works in, in the first sentence of the article, rather than trying to rewrite that first sentence to pretend that she is only Iranian and that her residence in the US is somehow temporary or unimportant. If you want to rewrite it as stating that she is an Iranian immigrant to the US, rather than stating that she is Iranian and putting the US part later in the sentence, that woud be ok too, but removing the US part from the first sentence is wrong and frankly smells like inappropriate nationalism to me. —David Eppstein (talk) 21:18, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Disagree.She's Iranian and she resides in US.we do not know for sure that whether she's permanent US resident or not.Rezameyqani (talk) 21:42, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

The word "currently" in your preferred phrasing indicates that you believe this status is temporary. But you have given no evidence for this, and in the other direction she has been living in the US for 15 years, she is married to a (Czech) westerner who's also been living in the US for the same amount of time, and she has a permanent (tenured) job at a US university. There is zero evidence that her home in the US is anything but permanent. In fact even the evidence that her citizenship still lies with Iran is very weak: it's a curriculum vitae from over ten years ago. The current phrasing that she is based in the US is accurate, does not depend on knowledge of her citizenship or residency, does not need changing, and should not be changed in a way that reflects a nationalistic agenda. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:26, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

If you look at the above discussions which I took part last year on this issue,you'll see that I have your view about her residency,but we should not edit Wiki on our gut feelings or our guesses!You're the one that claims that she's US permanent resident.You're the one that must being some evidence,not me!!!Having a tenured job at somewhere doesn't mean that someone is "permanent resident" of that country.country. Kontsevich is a tenured professor of math at Rutgers,but he spends most of his time in France.Does this make him a US permanent resident??Rezameyqani (talk) 23:45, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Learn to read. Being a permanent resident of the US is a specific legal status that I made no claims about. I claimed that her visa status is irrelevant for determining how to write about the fact that she lives and works in the US. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:47, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

You're accusing me of not reading your words properly,it's amazing!I didn't bring nationalistic agenda.it's ridiculous to say so!That CV from 10 yrs ago is outdated??OK.Show me a new version of her CV,and then I will cease talking.I know all of things you've said about her.All of'em.even more.But I gave up editing her page bc I didn't have any solid evidence about her residency status.I know she spends most of her time in US,but this 'spending of time' IS NOT enough...Rezameyqani (talk) 23:58, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

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