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Conversion to module

Recent consensus at WT:FOOTY was to use Module:Sports table for football tables. I am currently converting the group tables for EURO 2016 and am suggesting to replace the third-place table by:

to correspond with the new style. I want to see whether there are any comments before I implement this in the live version. This has the following changes in addition to the new format:

• No away goal column, I don't think that it is needed, because it doesn't work as a tie-breaker at this point. When it breaks a tie, it would probably be better to use |hth_TTT= options to create an additional linked footnote.
• The notes are now implemented as proper footnotes, why they would otherwise be numbered 2,4,6 is beyond me. As the three options get reduced, the notes can be adapted easily as well.
• There is no sixth-place team column, in my eyes it does not add any information. To see the influence of the sixth-placed you need to go to the group table anyway. It might also cause minor confusion to people that never saw these tables, because two countries are listed.

Overall I think the changes will make this table more accessible, because it exactly matches the regular group tables. CRwikiCA talk 20:43, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

@Qed237: What is your take on this? CRwikiCA talk 15:24, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

@CRwikiCA: I am happy with that. I am not even sure if note that team may change position is needed, it is a current table and of course teams may change. We can not have column for every tiebreaker (we dont on other places) and there is already info to not include sixth-placed team. As I said I am happy with the solution. Should we have similar solution at 2015 CONCACAF U-20 Championship (playoff) and for example not use position there? In old depreciated template (not used here) there was a parameter called |group= and then the group column was added (for every row/team it was |group=A and so on)so both pos and group was shown, perhaps a future use for module. QED237 (talk) 16:30, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

@Qed237: I made the suggested change in the sandbox, if you think the version is okay, I will move it to the live version. Something similar could be used for the 2015 CONCACAF U-20 Championship (playoff), although you also make a good point about having both position and group in the standings, because both might be relevant. CRwikiCA talk 15:44, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

It's better to add a note into the template, like this. Raymond "Giggs" Ko 05:09, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

According to this: http://ru.uefa.com/uefaeuro/qualifiers/season=2016/standings/round=2000446/group=2002434/index.html Russia should have 8 points and be in 4th place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XAKxRUSx (talk • contribs) 15:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

@XAKxRUSx: Always read rules: For this tournament qualification matches against the sixth placed team do not count. Moldova 6th place. Russia–Moldova 1:1. 8–1=7 points. That's all. GAV80 (talk) 16:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

References

Croatia Points Deduction

@Soilentred: @Qed237: @GAV80: From what I can see here there's nothing to suggest that Croatia's points deduction doesn't apply to the ranking of 3rd place teams, but is there anywhere that confirms this? Super Nintendo Chalmers (talk) 10:43, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

From what I know there is no way to confirm this, but I will look around. I dont see why the deduction would not apply here. Qed237 (talk) 12:58, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

I have made an attempt to contact UEFA, but no reply yet. Perhaps someone else wants to try as well. Qed237 (talk) 14:59, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

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