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F8

I spent quite a few minutes chipping away at F8 and barely made a dent.

Based upon my progress, my guess is if I spent the whole day on it I would still not quite get through today's additions to the list. If you don't mind, I'd like to describe my process, so you can tell me if there is a more efficient way to process these.

Obviously, the format and layout of the information other than the image itself is different in Commons than in Misplaced Pages. When I do the comparison I focus on making sure that the following things are present in both locations:

1. Obviously, that the images match
2. Both locations contain the same license
3. Both locations contain the same author
4. If there is an OTRS ticket I confirmed that both have an OTRS ticket (although I have not gone to the additional step other than spotchecks to make sure that both went to the same OTRS ticket)

I sometimes look at the uploader but I haven't been rigorous and ensuring that both list the same uploader.

I start at the category and open a handful of images in one browser. Then go to a second browser and open the same set. Working with the second set, I then locate the link to the Commons image and open it. Now I have two screens, each with multiple tabs, the Misplaced Pages images in one screen and the Commons images in the second screen.

I then walk through one at a time make sure the images match, make sure the licenses match, make sure the authors match and make sure both or neither have OTRS tickets.

I think go through and delete the Misplaced Pages items using F8 as a reason. In some cases, when there is a large number of images from the same author, I will review them all and then use the batch deletion option.

This still takes a tremendous amount of time.

It would be tempting to conclude that if the transfer was done by the FastilyClone, that evidence suggest it does the transfer properly and that information would be sufficient to justify deletion and only those transferred by some other means need the full manual check. However, I haven't reach that conclusion yet.

Do you have a more efficient way of vetting these images?--S Philbrick(Talk) 16:22, 22 October 2016 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: yes, I do. I use toollabs:magog/commons_images.htm. It helps you compare each file side by side. It is far from perfect; images don't always load due to Mediawiki constraints, it's ugly, and somewhat inefficient. But because I'm the only one that uses it, and it's not worth my effort to do things the right way. If you want to take advantage of the AJAX delete capabilities, you'll need to import the script under the if statement at the top of User:Magog the Ogre/monobook.js and copy it to your own myskin.js. Otherwise, due to technical constraints, you'll have to turn off your popup blocker, and it has to open a new window for each deletion, and you'll have to manually click the delete button.

As for content, I don't actually verify the OTRS ticket. That is too much work and I figure we should trust our agents. However, I do make sure that the information looks correct. The author shouldn't state "{{original uploader|...}}" or be blank or whatever, since those are obviously wrong. If they do, then I'll look at the ticket to find the right answer. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 01:29, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

This is funny. As I thought about the process, I considered how I would improve it, and my thought was some software that would bring in each image, and line them up side by side. I will try checking out your script, I do understand that when one creates something for oneself, you work on the functionality, and don't worry about making it pretty.--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:56, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

So what do you do when you run into a situation where the author is listed as the original uploader:

File:Michael Anthony Franano - 2012 Promotional Photo.jpg

c:File:Michael Anthony Franano - 2012 Promotional Photo.jpg--S Philbrick(Talk) 12:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: For OTRS images, that is usually wrong, so I check the text description for the correct author. If that isn't present, I'll actually pull up the OTRS ticket. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 23:39, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

OK thanks. ::sigh:: there's a lot of work to do. (Thanks for all you do) --S Philbrick(Talk) 00:51, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

I know. I've asked transferrers to do more to ensure the data is correct. This is not always possible. FWIW, OgreBot always performs the cleanup 2 function on files ~24-48 hours after they are initially uploaded. This helps with many, but not all issues. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 00:09, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

File:Making Movies.png

Why did you remove {{Now commons}}? The file is available on Commons. -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 11:59, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

@Blackcat: I stated that in the edit summary. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 00:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't get you. -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 14:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

@Blackcat: look at the file history. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 16:33, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes but I read only "Wrong file format", thus I cannot understand the reason. A png cannot be replaced by an equivalent SVG? -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 16:35, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

@Blackcat: No, it cannot without going through another deletion process. This is the first criterion under WP:F8. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 17:23, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Ok, so what should be done? -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 22:54, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

@Blackcat: exactly what I said in the edit summary. Nominate it at FFD. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 23:39, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Ok. Please, then have a look to see if I did it correctly. -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 23:40, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Done here. -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 23:46, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

@Blackcat: yes that looks good. You can also use Twinkle to ease the process. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 02:13, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Twinkle? -- SERGIO aka the Black Cat 20:31, 2 November 2016 (UTC)

@Blackcat WP:TW. Magog the Ogre (t • c) 01:13, 4 November 2016 (UTC)