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| ::It must be noted that "bellingcat" is far from being a reliable source. It is a collection of completely unqualified bloggers (principally Eliot Higgins, operating from his home in the English midlands) who present themselves as 'citizen journalists' but are largely funded by Atlantic Council to broadcast pro-NATO propaganda through social media. Bellingcat was set up 2 days before the MH17 plane shootdown and its first assignment was to try to prove that Russia was guilty and exonerate Ukraine. Bellingcat's work on this and various projects has been extensively debunked by experts in the appropriate fields: far too many references to quote here.] (]) 15:59, 20 December 2016 (UTC) | |||
| Thus this sentence should be phrased as followed: Bana al-Abed (born 2009) is a 7-year old Syrian girl who is tweeting from Aleppo ..." | Thus this sentence should be phrased as followed: Bana al-Abed (born 2009) is a 7-year old Syrian girl who is tweeting from Aleppo ..." | ||
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mention of blog removed from page
A blogger who has been following this and asserting that is is a hoax, had been written up on page. an IP removed it: (These doubts have been summarised in a blog by Barbara Mckenzie.) I don't know if this blogger is notable, or cited in the press.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:55, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
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This template is not appropriate. From my understanding it is used for articles that were made to a hoax, not for articles about hoaxes. The article clearly expresses doubt in the account's authenticity. Hang googles (talk) 06:37, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
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Please change the sentence "Bana al-Abed (born 2009; Arabic: البنا العبد) is a fictional character or hoax persona, presented as a 7-year old Syrian girl who claims to be tweeting from Aleppo ...", as Bana actually is a real person. The existence of Bana Alabed in East Aleppo has been proven through the usage of geolocation by a reliable source:
- It must be noted that "bellingcat" is far from being a reliable source. It is a collection of completely unqualified bloggers (principally Eliot Higgins, operating from his home in the English midlands) who present themselves as 'citizen journalists' but are largely funded by Atlantic Council to broadcast pro-NATO propaganda through social media. Bellingcat was set up 2 days before the MH17 plane shootdown and its first assignment was to try to prove that Russia was guilty and exonerate Ukraine. Bellingcat's work on this and various projects has been extensively debunked by experts in the appropriate fields: far too many references to quote here.Silicondale (talk) 15:59, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
Thus this sentence should be phrased as followed: Bana al-Abed (born 2009) is a 7-year old Syrian girl who is tweeting from Aleppo ..."
Thank you very much for considering my contribution 15:31, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- www.bellingcat.com is not reliable source, its just little more then personal blog, so that is far from enough to even question this. And you should be aware that we have incredible amount of sources that Aleppo is without power, water and internet for months now, so no, someone may be tweeting, but that is not a girl from Aleppo, but anti-Assad propaganda. --Ąnαșταη (ταlκ) 15:43, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
- The IP was in the right. To my knowledge there aren't any reliable sources that call it "a fictional character or hoax persona". It has been criticized as such, but reliable sources cover it as a legitimate account. Hang googles (talk) 00:15, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Well, obviously the Washington Post was of the opinion, that www.bellingcat.com was a sufficiently reliable source:
However, which source that is more credible and reliable than bellingcat and the above mentioned Washington Post article can you present in order to proof, that Bana Alabed actually is a hoax? At least one video from the Bana account shows, that Banas family had access to solar panels in Aleppo. Thus, your "incredible amount of sources" obviously ignore this fact deliberately. Therefore, they seem to be even less reliable than bellingcat.
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