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::I wasn't aware you'd been asked for a second opinion. With less than 100 edits on WP globally, and no GAs to your credit, you do not have the experience to know what is necessary in a GA. You are trolling. Stop it. ] (]) 23:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC) | ::I wasn't aware you'd been asked for a second opinion. With less than 100 edits on WP globally, and no GAs to your credit, you do not have the experience to know what is necessary in a GA. You are trolling. Stop it. ] (]) 23:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC) | ||
::{{re|KanteP}} The context of the events is required to get an idea of the subject. Also I clearly see that the data is not too off the subject, it is within the context. Per the source issue you've mentioned, ''Serbia's Secret War: Propaganda and the Deceit of History'', is a reliable source, it is printed by an university press and has an ISBN number, so it is not a self published work. Thanks for taking a look on the article. Regards, ] (] • ]) 10:56, 21 January 2017 (UTC) | ::{{re|KanteP}} The context of the events is required to get an idea of the subject. Also I clearly see that the data is not too off the subject, it is within the context. Per the source issue you've mentioned, ''Serbia's Secret War: Propaganda and the Deceit of History'', is a reliable source, it is printed by an university press and has an ISBN number, so it is not a self published work. Thanks for taking a look on the article. Regards, ] (] • ]) 10:56, 21 January 2017 (UTC) | ||
:::{{re|Krishna Chaitanya Velaga}} | |||
:::'''Unreliable''' Cohen's ''Serbia's Secret War: Propaganda and the Deceit of History'' | |||
::::'''As author'''. Not educated as a historian, no much needed languages knowledge (German, Serbian), apparently selling his name to "the Tudjman's kitchen in Zagreb, in the form of institute organized to work as propaganda machinery." (Almuly, see the ] article) Almuly "asked in public: what misfortune, or perhaps benefit, made an American Jew participate in such dishonorable deed". | |||
::::'''Book content''' From the ] article: | |||
:::*''Cohen's book belonged to "the current popular-historical and journalist literature that seeks to demonize and condemn more than to chronicle and elucidate fairly"''(D. Reinhartz); | |||
:::*''(the book) was the culmination of a two-track strategy by the Croatian media aimed at "damage control" regarding Croatian atrocities against Serbs'' ( M. Živković); | |||
:::*''"a controversial pro-Croatian revision of Serbian history"''(B. MacDonald); | |||
:::*is the book ''"in which censorious zeal trumps balanced scholarship".'' (D. Djordjevic); | |||
:::*''"In fact, the Cohen's book teems with forgeries, half-truths, incompetent use of historical sources, overstrained theses and ill-intended inferences."'' (M. Svircevic); | |||
:::*''criticised Cohen for drawing heavily on contemporary press accounts to demonstrate the "fascism" of the Serbian Orthodox Church, and failing to take into account "the omnipresent censorship and manipulation" in the Nedić-controlled newspapers.'' (K. Buchenau); | |||
:::*''Cohen's book contains the false claim'' (A. Mirkovic)--] (]) 11:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC) | |||
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Reviewer: Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk · contribs) 03:21, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Will take this one. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 03:21, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- Note to reviewer. The article is burdened by unnecessary event descriptions found in the Territory of the Military Commander in Serbia article (linked in), then use of unreliable references (Cohen's Serbia's ... deceit of history).--bez potpisa (talk) 19:47, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware you'd been asked for a second opinion. With less than 100 edits on WP globally, and no GAs to your credit, you do not have the experience to know what is necessary in a GA. You are trolling. Stop it. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:23, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
- @KanteP: The context of the events is required to get an idea of the subject. Also I clearly see that the data is not too off the subject, it is within the context. Per the source issue you've mentioned, Serbia's Secret War: Propaganda and the Deceit of History, is a reliable source, it is printed by an university press and has an ISBN number, so it is not a self published work. Thanks for taking a look on the article. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 10:56, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Krishna Chaitanya Velaga:
- Unreliable Cohen's Serbia's Secret War: Propaganda and the Deceit of History
- As author. Not educated as a historian, no much needed languages knowledge (German, Serbian), apparently selling his name to "the Tudjman's kitchen in Zagreb, in the form of institute organized to work as propaganda machinery." (Almuly, see the Philip J. Cohen article) Almuly "asked in public: what misfortune, or perhaps benefit, made an American Jew participate in such dishonorable deed".
- Book content From the Philip J. Cohen article:
- Cohen's book belonged to "the current popular-historical and journalist literature that seeks to demonize and condemn more than to chronicle and elucidate fairly"(D. Reinhartz);
- (the book) was the culmination of a two-track strategy by the Croatian media aimed at "damage control" regarding Croatian atrocities against Serbs ( M. Živković);
- "a controversial pro-Croatian revision of Serbian history"(B. MacDonald);
- is the book "in which censorious zeal trumps balanced scholarship". (D. Djordjevic);
- "In fact, the Cohen's book teems with forgeries, half-truths, incompetent use of historical sources, overstrained theses and ill-intended inferences." (M. Svircevic);
- criticised Cohen for drawing heavily on contemporary press accounts to demonstrate the "fascism" of the Serbian Orthodox Church, and failing to take into account "the omnipresent censorship and manipulation" in the Nedić-controlled newspapers. (K. Buchenau);
- Cohen's book contains the false claim (A. Mirkovic)--bez potpisa (talk) 11:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
- Lead;
- was the mass murder of between 2,778 and 2,794 mostly Serb men and boys in the city of Kragujevac by German soldiers; I suggest rewording it as "was the mass murder of 2,778–2,794 Serb men and boys in the city of Kragujevac by German soldiers" or a similar one. The former one is a bit confusing, isn't catchy.
- 70 male Jews and communists that had been arrested; I doubt the use of "that", they are humans, right?
- Also were there seventy men part of the prior 422 or this is a separate count? Check the use of "and" in the sentence
- Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 11:03, 21 January 2017 (UTC)