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::I'm sorry, that doesn't make sense. We shouldn't "leave it out" since it summarizes article content.] (]) 13:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC) ::I'm sorry, that doesn't make sense. We shouldn't "leave it out" since it summarizes article content.] (]) 13:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
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== Political commentary section == == Political commentary section ==

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Near the end of the 'Candidacy of Donald Trump' section, the word 'challenged' is missing its g. The sentence is as follows "During the first presidential debate, when challened about his claims that he was an early opponent of the Iraq war, Trump told moderator Lester Holt to "Call Sean Hannity."" 98.228.90.3 (talk) 05:42, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 10:14, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Lead section

I removed the following: During and after the election, he made controversial statements in support of Trump and against Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party. I wouldn't include the sentence about Trump either in the lede, but thats another story I guess. --Malerooster (talk) 22:10, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

The lede should reflect the content of the article. Hannity's advocacy for Trump is a significant part of his claim to notability and gets adequate attention in this article and in reliable sources to be mentioned in the lede. So does his promotion of conspiracy theories. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:01, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
It's undue and partisan. All of it should be removed. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:15, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
There are twelve reliable sources in the lede, and more can be found if needed. Your claim that the section is undue and partisan is unsubstantiated. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 23:19, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
@Snooganssnoogans, others disagree with you. Its time to seek consensus on the talk page. --Malerooster (talk) 16:27, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
So far it's one editor who clearly doesn't understand WP:UNDUE and then it's you who just disagrees with the inclusion for no cited reason at all. User:Snooganssnoogans (talk) 17:07, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

@Snooganssnoogans, please stop edit warring and just gain consensus, your agenda pushing is really tiresome. --Malerooster (talk) 15:09, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Please explain why this content does not belong in the lede (something you've not even attempted to do). Half of the article is about Hannity's falsehood-peddling and conspiracy theorizing, all backed up by numerous reliable sources. The lede should per Wiki policy summarize that content. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 15:14, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
ok, then you please tell everybody here about your agenda pushing on political articles. Half the article, which was adding in the last two weeks covers all of Hannity's controversies and other such muckracking, great, whatever. But now you want to add these to the lede? This "material" doesn't rise to the level worthy of inclusion in the lede per editorial discrection. If consensus forms that is should be in the lede, then fine, but that hasn't been established. The ownous(sp) is on the editor who wants to drasticaly change the lede of the bio and not on those maintaining the last stable version. Ok, now tell everybody how you have ZERO agenda pushing in regards to politically bios and articles on this project, I need a good laugh. --Malerooster (talk) 15:21, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
I've noticed a pattern in your editing (not the first time I've encountered this BS from you). You go from page to page to whitewash content and you never offer a policy-based reason for exclusion, because there are never any actual problems in terms of reliability, notability and accuracy. You cite BRD and then say that all the reliably sourced, accurate content needs to meet consensus in the hopes that nobody bothers to persist through your disingenuous stalling tactics. I'm here on talk page explaining why the content merits inclusion and you neither suggest improvements nor offer reasons why my rationale for inclusion is wrong. That's not consistent with Wiki policy. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 15:29, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
This is what I accept from an agenda pushing editor such as yourself. Thank you for proving me right. --Malerooster (talk) 18:24, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

This is simply a summary of article's content. There shouldn't be anything controversial about having this sentence in the lede given that the article discusses these very things.Volunteer Marek (talk) 23:32, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Then leave it out.--Malerooster (talk) 02:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
I'm sorry, that doesn't make sense. We shouldn't "leave it out" since it summarizes article content.Volunteer Marek (talk) 13:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
You should be sorry for pushing your agenda with POV editing. --Malerooster (talk) 01:15, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Political commentary section

was recently added. The first section is about a controversey and the 2nd is about his political support for Trump. The first seems like undue wieght and if notable would maybe go in career section?--Malerooster (talk) 16:46, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

All the content is supported by numerous reliable sources. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 17:08, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

RFC: Should the lede mention his actions during the 2016 presidential campaign?

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Should the following text be included to the lede?:

Hannity drew attention during the 2016 presidential campaign for his overly favorable coverage of Donald Trump, his promotion of Trump's false and unsubstantiated voter fraud claims, and for periodically promoting falsehoods and conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton.

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