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Suspect

One media outlet described that the "driver is on the run". I have absolutely no idea whether this is correct or not, but if it is, it should be added to the main page possibly (once confirmed). 2A02:8388:1641:4700:BE5F:F4FF:FECD:7CB2 (talk) 14:07, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Could you give a link here? Firework917 (talk) 14:14, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Shots fired

I removed a sentence about shots fired; so far, this has not been confirmed, and Swedish media reporting this has been very clear it is hearsay in a chaotic situation. It can be added when confirmed, if it happened. /Julle (talk) 14:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

To illustrate, Swedish Radio just reported "... and the police now confirms shots have been fired at Fridhemsplan, but this might not have been related to the lorry attack" when the other reporter broke in and said "actually, we just got word that the police denies shots have been fired at Fridhemsplan", so this should probably not go into an encyclopedia right now. /Julle (talk) 14:39, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Fatalities

It seems like at least three persons are dead according to reasonably reliable media accounts, but there's a lot of confusion around this in Swedish media at the moment; I wouldn't put any specific number in the info box. /Julle (talk) 14:34, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

There's a '+5' in the infobox without citation at the moment. Thoughts on replacing it with "at least 3"? Proaralyst (talk) 14:50, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Terror

When police say they're treating a brand new case as terrorism, that means they'll use counterterrorism tactics to aid in their investigation into whether or not the suspect is a terrorist. It does not mean he definitely was, or even probably was. Since this suspect's not only completely unknown, motives and all, but apparently alive, he'll also have a murder trial (if police even press charges). If he's convicted of murder, this will be a murder. If he's convicted of terrorism (or terror stuff), this will be terrorism.

It's just dumb to jump the gun when the driver dies, but when he doesn't, it's libelous. We have rules about that sort of thing, so go easy on the murder and terrorism categories (by completely avoiding them). And remember that "terror" and "terrorism" are different words, just like all -ism words are. Encyclopedias aren't meant to be sensational and as fast as possible, but newspapers are. Don't play their game.

For my own sanity, I'm going to step away from this article (before the Reactions section shows up), but this guy was wondering why I removed dumb libel, so I thought I'd explain. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:08, April 7, 2017 (UTC)

It is clearly a terror a attack the Swedish PM has called it one.Apollo The Logician (talk) 17:08, 7 April 2017 (UTC) Apollo The Logician (talk) 17:08, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

"Islamic terrorism"

As I believe, there's no proof that it's linked to Islamic terrorism, although it's likely. I don't think people should jump to conclusions. ~~Wh1ter0se (talk) 17:58, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Its pretty much certain it was Islamic extremists.Apollo The Logician (talk) 17:09, 7 April 2017 (UTC) Apollo The Logician (talk) 17:09, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
If it's likely, then why bother censoring facts? If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then... Cyrus the Penner (talk) 17:17, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Gotta enjoy censorship. Cyrus the Penner (talk) 17:41, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
We don't report all facts; we only report verifiable facts. Unless reliable sources call it Islamic terrorism, neither do we. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:44, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Given all of the recent vehicle-ramming attacks in Europe, I think it's safe to say there's an alarming pattern here. You can't deny it. Cyrus the Penner (talk) 17:46, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
(edit conflict) ...it doesn't mean zip for Misplaced Pages, as it is an encyclopedia and not a chrystal ball.

"This has happened:

  • At 2.53pm the police were alerted about a lorry having rammed several people in a busy street in central Stockholm.
  • At least 2 people are dead.
  • No arrests have been made.
  • There is no confirmation about the incident being a terrorist attack, the Swedish Security Service said.
  • However, at a press conference Prime Minister Stefan Löfven said: "Everything indicates this is a terror attack."
  • Large parts of central Stockholm are cordoned off.
  • All metro services are cancelled.
  • All trains passing Stockholm's Central Station have been cancelled.
  • The parliament building (Riksdag) and the government headquarters Rosenbad are in lock-down."— Swedish public radio Vivo (talk) 17:48, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
Isn't the religion of peace great? Smh. Cyrus the Penner (talk) 17:48, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
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