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Hello, Antonioatrylia. I received your e-mail, but I prefer to talk on-wiki. It doesn't seem as though the proposal is going to gain consensus as is, although sometimes compromises happen. A lot of things are proposed, but most aren't adopted, and those that are are often modified to be more acceptable. No use worrying prematurely! I've been a Wikipedian for four years, which is not a particularly long time compared with others, but even over that time there have been a lot of changes. I've disagreed with some of them, but I believe in the project and have always been able to find many ways to contribute. I agree that helping new users get started can be fulfilling, but the proposal wouldn't stop you from doing that even if it passes. Any autoconfirmed user can improve draft articles and move them to mainspace.—] (]) 01:53, 1 April 2017 (UTC) Hello, Antonioatrylia. I received your e-mail, but I prefer to talk on-wiki. It doesn't seem as though the proposal is going to gain consensus as is, although sometimes compromises happen. A lot of things are proposed, but most aren't adopted, and those that are are often modified to be more acceptable. No use worrying prematurely! I've been a Wikipedian for four years, which is not a particularly long time compared with others, but even over that time there have been a lot of changes. I've disagreed with some of them, but I believe in the project and have always been able to find many ways to contribute. I agree that helping new users get started can be fulfilling, but the proposal wouldn't stop you from doing that even if it passes. Any autoconfirmed user can improve draft articles and move them to mainspace.—] (]) 01:53, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

== Seriously? ==

So after all this, a main space article is totally overwritten with a failed AFC draft. Mutiple editors had contributed to the original mainspace article including myself, the creator, many others, and even a student at WikiEd. No trace of the history of all the editors who contributed to the originally created mainspace article for ] remain. Everyone's contributions to the original mainspace article were for nothing, because a failed AFC draft was used to overwrite the original mainspace article. It is no wonder that so many editors are leaving wikipedia. ] (]) 22:07, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

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CONSIDERING RETIREMENT Antonioatrylia is strongly considering retirement, although nothing is set in stone...


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About the recent change

Hi Antonio, I really appreciate your time and help. I changed the page because I added 2 public news citations. I think that I forgot to mention it in the recent changes box. Should I revert it?

Thanks.

Valentinetzekas (talk) 07:48, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

No, I added back one of the references. I will add the other one back. If you are the article subject it is best to put requests on the talk page. Thanks. Antonioatrylia (talk) 07:53, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for the addition of the table of contents to the page I made. Much appreciated! Blunt001 (talk) 09:39, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

You are welcome. The article also needs a lead section at the very top. See WP:LEDE for help on that. Let me know if you have any questions. Antonioatrylia (talk) 09:45, 10 February 2017


Shah Aqeeq Baba

Can you please vote me on my Wali page for keepShah Aqeeq Baba if you are not interested please don't complain against me 😥😥 Hammadsaeed1 (talk) 07:02, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

I am working on that article now to improve it and find some more sources. After I am done I will likely join the deletion discussion. Antonioatrylia (talk) 07:07, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Michael Bayard Article

Thank you for the edits Antonio! This is a great practice project for me. I've add more edits. Can you please look at the page again before I resubmit? Soli58 (talk) 07:00, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Sure. Will do today. Antonioatrylia (talk) 11:35, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for checking the article again Antonio! I trimmed the content more and added some citations, but am unable to remove the "needs citation" tag. Also wondering about what to link. I looked at the Wiki page for guidelines, but it's very unclear. Can you look at the article one more time before I resubmit it? Thank you again!!! Soli58 (talk) 21:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I will take a look later tonight or in the morning. Antonioatrylia (talk) 22:27, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
Soli58 I looked it over, and I am not seeing those youtube testimonials that had been used as references. (unless I missed one) That is good. Tidy up anything else you might want to and maybe you should submit it again. Please let me know if you have any more questions or need help. Antonioatrylia (talk) 05:05, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Antonio. I still the citation needed tag after I added citations. Should I submit the article with the tags or can you remove them before I submit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soli58 (talkcontribs) 21:03, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
I went through the draft again. Please check the link for the official website under external links.

It is not working for me. Antonioatrylia (talk) 21:59, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

I changed the external link. Should work now. Thank you soooo much for helping me on my practice project! I'm wondering if I should trim more of the promotional quotations before submitting? They are all verifiable but may still make the article seem to promotional. Soli58 (talk) 22:54, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, it is best to trim anything promotional. There were one or two spots with quotes that were referenced to the subject's website. Since you have provided the website where the reader could go to read those. I would remove those quote referenced to his website. You are welcome for the help. You are a pleasure to work with. Antonioatrylia (talk) 23:34, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Antonio! You are also a pleasure to work with Soli58 (talk) 00:13, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Antonio. I just resubmitted the article! I removed any promotional content and cleaned it up a bit more. I'll keep my fingers crossed! This has been a good project for me. Thank you soooo much again for all of your help! I'm looking forward to working on another article after this is hopefully accepted. Soli58 (talk) 00:35, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Elizabeth Burns (Poet)

Thanks for the edits. Re the reference to Burns, family asked for this reference to be removed as the journalist quoted but they would like it verified first. I've not written on a talk page before so sorry for any bad etiquette on my part spillerjzy —Preceding undated comment added 09:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

So how do you know this from the family? Antonioatrylia (talk) 09:48, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Because I asked them to verify the accuracy of what I'd written — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spillerjzy (talkcontribs) 09:50, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

Do you know the family, or are you connected with them in anyway? The fact that Burns is descended from poet Robert Burns can be found in numerous reliable sources. Do. You have a conflict of interest regarding this article. If you do, you need to declare that. Have you gotten any compensation from the family? No offense, but if so, you should read over the Paid Editing guidelines. Antonioatrylia (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

I went to the launch of her final poetry collection in Feb and on International Women's Day added a page for a poet who didn't have a Misplaced Pages entry. As a courtesy, I contacted the family to let them know it was there. No conflict of interest, no payment, no offence.Spillerjzy (talk) 12:25, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Hi Kurdistantolive (talk) 16:14, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
I need some help .Kurdistantolive (talk) 16:15, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Kurdistantolive What could I help you with? Do you have a question? Please leave me a link to the article. Antonioatrylia (talk) 22:02, 10 March 2017 (UTC) Antonioatrylia (talk) 22:05, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Discuss about speedily deletion of article

This article Websoham (Web Designing Company) is not about me.this is about a famous Web design company, which situated in Jodhpur,India.and why delete this page because all page who about a company are why not delete?. (BOLLYWOODB1 (talk) 09:38, 11 March 2017 (UTC))

How is the company notable? See WP:NOTABILITY. Antonioatrylia (talk) 09:45, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Vanessa Parise page

Thank you for the notes on Vanessa Parise's page. I didn't realize IMDB was not a usable source and when I saw "citation needed" I thought it was because I hadn't put one there in the first place. I didn't mean to be replacing links that were ruled un-unable. Cheers! Jen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjenred5 (talkcontribs) 16:02, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

JoJo Siwa

I talked with JoJo before and her name is Joelle Joni Siwa, not Joelle Joanie Siwa. Please stop changing her name to the wrong information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alliealee (talkcontribs) 05:49, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Do not change the name again unless you provide a WP:RS reliable source independent of the article subject to cite the name change to for verifiability. Thanks. Antonioatrylia (talk) 05:57, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

song credit

hello, you've made a mistake citing Shawn James & the Shapeshifters as the author of Through the Valley when in fact it is my solo material just under Shawn James. Check Spotify or iTunes where the track comes from the Album Shadows and that it is in fact my solo material. My work with The Shapeshifters are a heavy southern Blues Rock sound. -Shawn James

Please see the citations on the talk page of the article. Three reliable sources do not agree with what you are saying. Antonioatrylia (talk) 11:22, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Jessica Matten article

Reliable Sources have been added and cited along with content. Please reconsider article deletion for Jessica Matten — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roughhead (talkcontribs) 22:48, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

I can see some have been added, unfortunately many do not even mention her. Notabilty is not inherited. The article is promotional and does not show notability for her. I will take another look later today. Antonioatrylia (talk) 22:54, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your work at Paige Brooks

Thanks for your work at Paige Brooks... I still don't think the notability is there but it will at least make it easier to judge the AFD going forward. Nice work. I'd just make the suggestion to check the citations against what they are asserting, for example it says she was a finalist at Miss USA, but she wasn't... none of the three citations there assert that. See here and in fact two of the citations are to the same article hosted on her site/fan site/whatever it is. --- PageantUpdater (talk) 11:41, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for noticing. I have not even do e my searches yet. I am taking out most of the primaries and will find better citations hopefully and then we can see. That article eas in horrible. I happened to notice it on ANI while I was skimming thdre. So I clicked it. O my. Antonioatrylia (talk) 11:54, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
Oh my indeed! I was probably too hasty bringing it to ANI but the behaviour of the editors/their "ownership" of this article was concerning me and I wasn't sure it was wise waiting for the AFD tao take its course, especially as I could see it heading for relisting. You've done some sterling work here, hopefully the ANI will act as a wake up call to the editors to pay a little more attention to guidelines & policies so your edits stick. --- PageantUpdater (talk) 12:06, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

And thank you for opening the sockpuppet investigation. Hopefully this will be the end of it all now. --- PageantUpdater (talk) 03:19, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Or not. Did you see this? --- PageantUpdater (talk) 10:32, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
I skimmed it. I am really not so bothered. She got a checkuser block. Only a checkuser can unblock her. In the unblock request, she used her opportunity to try to bash me and said a bunch of lies and things that were not true. Blaming others in your unblock material never really works to well, as far as I have read in the couple ones I have read over. Who the heck knows?

Hey if you have time will you look over this guy, and in a five minute period of searches on your computer, let me know if you deem him to be notable. I would like your opinion on the article. It is here: Milcho Manchevski. Thanks! Antonioatrylia (talk) 10:46, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Good to know. Hoped/figured someone would see through it. Yes of course, will go have a look now. My opinion on the notability of Paige Brooks probably seems weird to you given my username. The topic has gone through a really contentious year or so of AFDs and as such what seemed to qualify as notability changed so much the articles seem to have been held to very strict sense of notability. People with much more newspaper coverage than Brooks were being deleted due to the articles only being considered from "local" sources. Won't lie, the conflicting standards of what will and won't get deleted have left me very confused. --- PageantUpdater (talk) 10:58, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
The current sources seem to be more about the films than the filmmaker but of course notability is based not on what references are in the article but what can be found. Most of what I can see on Google isn't from newspapers or sources which would generally seem to pass WP:RS (from magazines etc) but of course we're 20 years out from when he was most famous. A quick search of Newspapers.com seems to show much more coverage from the 1990s, the only problem is I can't really assess it properly as I don't have a subscriber account and can only see search snippets. I think on the whole the source material is promising, and of course this is only what I'm finding in English as well, I would assume there would be more in his native Macedonia. What a shame Google dismantled their news archive. --- PageantUpdater (talk) 11:06, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
And of course I start to find the most promising sources on page 8... thanks Google ;) this this cover him in significant depth, as does this article from Film Quarterly which I think would qualify as a RS more than just your run-of-the-mill mag? --- PageantUpdater (talk) 11:20, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Antonioatrylia, Advice appreciated on page for Scientist Edward J. Steele

Appreciate your guidance on improving Edward J. Steele My efforts seem under attack.

BSmith821 (talk) 17:00, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I will be glad to take a look at it today. Antonioatrylia (talk) 18:19, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Paige Brooks

Thank you for vastly improving this article. I appreciate your help in making it better. Today, I made some formatting changes, which I think are improvements and make it easier to read, etc., and I also added a few more items to the titlebox. Certain sentences needed to be relocated to the appropriate topic area. (i.e. L'Vegue should appear under Modeling as opposed to Film and Television.) Since it will be very difficult for me to re-add the improvements individually at this juncture, (and I do think you will agree that the formatting changes are making the article better), I will just do a revert and then an immediate edit to remove the added sources that you mention above and make sure that your sources stay. I think that way, we both can keep our good edits. I am only doing a revert because it is so much easier, not because I do not like or agree with your work and research. I hope you find this agreeable since it is so much easier for me. Thanks, again, for your help! SSIISS (talk) 23:09, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Hi, again, Antonioatrylia. I was in the process of removing sources that you thought were unreliable, but then I realized that I have no idea to which sources you are referring. Could you please provide a list of sources that you think I should remove and I will do so? Or, I will provide more information on those sources so you can judge for yourself. All of the sources that I am using are verified (newspapers, magazines, legitimate websites, etc.) However, please let me know if it is done correctly. I will list the sources here for you and you can tell me which ones you think need more research, etc. I do strongly prefer the formatting and clean-up and hope that you like it, too. SSIISS (talk) 23:24, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Here are the sources for your perusal: "Hall of Fame - Miss Alabama USA/Teen USA USA Pageants". Miss Alabama USA/Teen USA USA Pageants. February 15, 2014. Retrieved March 21, 2017. Amo, Gary. "In Store Summer Fashions for Her", Beverly Hills 213 Magazine Press, D. (2004). Your Modeling Career: You Don't Have to Be a Superstar to Succeed. Allworth Press. p. 251. ISBN 978-1-58115-986-8. Retrieved March 21, 2017. "TPIRModels.com" Willis, J.; Monush, B. (2004). Screen World 2003. John Willis Screen World. Hal Leonard. p. 80. ISBN 978-1-55783-526-0. Retrieved March 21, 2017. "IMDb Men In Black II Full Cast & Crew "IMDb Salutes Hollywood Blondes - Paige Brooks" "Official Website of Paige Brooks" "Official Website of Paige Brooks" "L'Vegue Magazine Aug 2016 issue". issuu. August 17, 2016. Retrieved March 21, 2017. "Official Website of Paige Brooks" Amo, Gary. "In Store Summer Fashions for Her", Beverly Hills 213 Magazine SSIISS (talk) 23:27, 21 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SSIISS (talkcontribs)

David Rockefeller Jr.

I've reverted both the redirect and the AfD close. While I believe my closing was correct, I am not 100% sure and that's good enough for me. Coretheapple (talk) 21:47, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick attention to the matter. Happy editing! Antonioatrylia (talk) 21:52, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
Oh, no problem at all. In reviewing the AfD rules again I noticed that withdrawals are allowed if the sentiment is "keep," Not merge! So we might as well go ahead and continue with it. Coretheapple (talk) 21:54, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Grovehill junction

Thankyou for your patience. I have finished editing this article and any improvements will be welcome. Op47 (talk) 18:06, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Multiple AfD nominations

That's a very good question. I've never done that before. I see that nominating multiple articles is covered by WP:MULTIAFD, and my reading of that is that such articles need to have a relationship to each other, not just similar qualities. The technicalities are covered by WP:BUNDLE. Coretheapple (talk) 12:02, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Reply

Hello, Antonioatrylia. I received your e-mail, but I prefer to talk on-wiki. It doesn't seem as though the proposal is going to gain consensus as is, although sometimes compromises happen. A lot of things are proposed, but most aren't adopted, and those that are are often modified to be more acceptable. No use worrying prematurely! I've been a Wikipedian for four years, which is not a particularly long time compared with others, but even over that time there have been a lot of changes. I've disagreed with some of them, but I believe in the project and have always been able to find many ways to contribute. I agree that helping new users get started can be fulfilling, but the proposal wouldn't stop you from doing that even if it passes. Any autoconfirmed user can improve draft articles and move them to mainspace.—Anne Delong (talk) 01:53, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Seriously?

So after all this, a main space article is totally overwritten with a failed AFC draft. Mutiple editors had contributed to the original mainspace article including myself, the creator, many others, and even a student at WikiEd. No trace of the history of all the editors who contributed to the originally created mainspace article for Asia Kate Dillon remain. Everyone's contributions to the original mainspace article were for nothing, because a failed AFC draft was used to overwrite the original mainspace article. It is no wonder that so many editors are leaving wikipedia. Antonioatrylia (talk) 22:07, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

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