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Czech Chemical Society

My new page about Czech Chemical Society was marked for deletion. However, I don't know why. It is the same as the pages of e.g. Hungarian Chemical Society od Royal Chemical Society. CCS exists for 150 years and it surely has it's place in Misplaced Pages. So I do not understand the complaining about self promotion or so. The second page is about the Associations of Czech Chemical Societies. OK, this is not exist for 150 years, but this organization is mentioned on the page of journal Chemické Listy. Please, help me to make these pages better. R Liboska (talk) 13:16, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

@R Liboska: I am happy to help you. I marked the page for deletion (and the administrator that deleted it apparently agreed) because it did little more than provide a link to the organization's website, which is a form of promotion/publicity that is not permitted. I agree that an organization with a long existence would likely merit an article(which is why I did not mark it for deletion as not significant) but not in the format that was written at that time.

Articles on Misplaced Pages are all judged on their individual merits; Other things exist. Just because other similar organizations have articles does not mean that the organization you are writing about automatically merits one too. The article must have independent reliable sources such as books, news articles, etc., that indicate how the organization meets the organization notability guidelines(please review). A primary source such as the organization's own website, while it can be used for some limited information, is not enough to sustain an article. I would encourage you to look for independent sources that describe the organization in depth, that is what is being looked for. If you have any other questions, please post them here. If you would like to discuss it with someone else, you can visit the Teahouse, an area for new users to ask questions. 331dot (talk) 22:06, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

OK, I am understand; thank you for this help. But is it possible to park this page in some draft area? I need some more time to find such "indipendent reliable sources". There should be some, however I do not know where to look for them. In addition - deletion of that page broke some links on other pages (Chemické Listy, Antonín Holý) R Liboska (talk) 07:29, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

@R Liboska: There are indeed ways to draft a page in a place where you can work on it. I will suggest two: There is a Draft namespace where drafts can be created: if you visit this page there is a space slightly down the page called "Create a new draft" where you can type in the name of your article to start creating it; such drafts are not deleted if they are being worked on(and are not spam, vandalism, etc.). When your draft is completed, you (or someone you ask) can move it into the main article space. If you want feedback on your work, you can visit Articles for Creation where you can submit a draft to volunteers for review before it is posted. I wish you luck 331dot (talk) 10:30, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

Does it mean that the deleted page is lost? I've got no backup. :-( R Liboska (talk) 10:44, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

The administrator that deleted it should be able to restore the content if you let them know you want to keep working on it. You can either contact them(go to the title of your page and the username of the administrator should be displayed) or you can visit this page to request that it be restored to Draft space. 331dot (talk) 11:11, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

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sand picture

hi, i answered in this page about deleting sand picture article. https://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sand_picture

Hello again, I deleted links to shopping pages, and added new links. please check the article sand picture.868,383,950edits (talk) 21:09, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

RE: MusicDealers

Dear talk:331dot

This is regarding the MusicDealers page. I have made some revisions and am looking to communicate with you regarding them. Will you please reach out to me in reference to it? I am an independent third party. Will you please advise?

Thank you,

Mdragoiu1099 (talk) 18:23, 19 January 2017 (UTC)Monique

RE: MusicDealers

Dear talk:331dot

This is regarding the MusicDealers page. I have made some revisions and am looking to communicate with you regarding them. Will you please reach out to me in reference to it? I am an independent third party. Will you please advise?

Thank you,

Mdragoiu1099 (talk) 18:24, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm aware of the article as it is currently; it still lacks independent reliable sources indicating how it is notable as a business. 331dot (talk) 18:59, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

Zooper Dooper

I see you've G3'd it. I went for A11 before withdrawing - Zooper Dooper's are a real thing. Though you'd never believe it from this article.Cabayi (talk) 10:49, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

@Cabayi: I stand corrected. Thanks for the information. Not sure what should become of the page currently- I must leave shortly so if you think something should be done, feel free. Thanks again 331dot (talk) 10:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll try a redir to Ice pop. Let's see if that sticks. Cabayi (talk) 10:53, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

...deleted A1 before I got there. Cabayi (talk) 10:59, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Trump's inauguration

The crowd comparison photo shown is debunkted by CNN with their gigapixel photo. http://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2017/01/politics/trump-inauguration-gigapixel/

Now, I'm not saying that CNN is always telling the truth, but the photo is clearly true. It's of course clear that Trump had a smaller crowd that Obama, but that does not mean that the comparison photo is correct. TV-coverage shows a much larger crowd than the one shown in the photo.

Misplaced Pages should be above this kind of fake news. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.18.187.144 (talk) 11:55, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

That doesn't mean that the photo was faked or altered, which seemed to be your suggestion. In any event, if you feel the comparison photo should be removed or its caption altered, it should probably be discussed on the article talk page. Thanks 331dot (talk) 12:00, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Nathan Sykes

Nathan is not an EDM artist or a record producer and may not be best known for being in the wanted now, however he was formerly in the band. Please accept these changes. This is factual, can it be edited to reflect please. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMGlobal (talk • contribs) 16:12, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

@JMGlobal: As indicated, you will need to discuss this on the article talk page first; you also need to review your user talk page and respond to the posts there. Thank you 331dot (talk) 16:15, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Can you direct me to these as i'm not sure what you're talking about. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JMGlobal (talk • contribs) 16:18, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

If you are using a computer to edit Misplaced Pages, at the very top of the screen you should see your username, along with "Talk". If you click the word 'Talk', that will take you to your user talk page. It may be lit up stating that you have messages. Alternatively, if you look at your first post above, there is a link that says 'Talk', that will also take you there. Also, please sign your posts with ~~~~ at the end so we know that you wrote them. Thanks 331dot (talk) 16:20, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Salted herring

Thanks for this and this. The image of the delicious salty liquorice fish is (I think) the only photo I have myself taken and uploaded to Misplaced Pages, just before I ate the fish. Very important it doesn't get vandalized! ;-) Bishonen | talk 21:12, 28 January 2017 (UTC).

New Page Review - newsletter No.2

A HUGE backlog

We now have 823 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
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3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

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Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

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Down East Polo Club

The Down East Polo Club was founded in 1978. It was the only polo club in Maine in 2001, but that may have changed. See:

• Tapley, Lance (August 23–30, 2001). "Maine's most exotic sport". The Portland Phoenix. Retrieved February 6, 2017.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: date format (link)

Want to create it? Horace Laffaye's books should have more info.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:08, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure I'm the best person to do so as polo lies outside my areas of interest. I'd perhaps be willing to get it started but I'm not sure I would have the time to do additional research. 331dot (talk) 03:27, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

A referenced stub would be better than nothing. Would you be able to take a few pictures over the summer?Zigzig20s (talk) 08:40, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Probably not. My personal situation limits the time I would have to engage in such a project. 331dot (talk) 11:23, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Jack Martin (Martial Artist)

Hello, thank you for your feedback. This is my first article of which I plan to write others regarding acting, stunt player and screenwriting. I practiced on my own and appreciate your assistance as nobody has taken the time as you did and I wanted to thank you and ask for your assistance in any edit you feel is appropriate. I agree with your suggestion for martial artist. I used IMDB with regards to references or wikipages.

kind regards,

Jack Martin (Taekwon-Do) (talk) 21:09, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

@Jack Martin (Taekwon-Do): Hello; someone else moved the page, just FYI. I would first state that, while not forbidden, it is highly discouraged to write an article about one's self(please see this page for more information) due to conflict of interest issues, as people naturally write favorably about themselves. As an encyclopedia, Misplaced Pages tries to have a neutral point of view.

Regarding IMDB, I would tell you that user-editable resources like that are generally not considered reliable sources as far as Misplaced Pages is concerned. Even Misplaced Pages articles cannot be used as a source for other Misplaced Pages articles. I would highly suggest that you allow the page you are writing to be moved to Draft space, where you can work on it and take time to find reliable sources, and then submit the article for an independent review before it is formally posted to the Main encyclopedia. You can also use Articles for Creation to do that. 331dot (talk) 21:16, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Rawal NA

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A tag has been placed on Rawal NA requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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I have (mistakenly) unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks for reviewing Doorpk Pakistan, 331dot.

Unfortunately Winged Blades of Godric has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

The company seems non-notable.No Google hits in sec. sources.Feel free to revert if you think otherwise.

To reply, leave a comment on Winged Blades of Godric's talk page.

Winged Blades 17:23, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, it was my mistake.Apparently you had added the correct tags but the creator removed them.Winged Blades 17:25, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Has CSD-ed it.Winged Blades 17:26, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

marked https://en.wikipedia.org/North_Guilford_Studios_Inc for deletion

please advise how to present the significance of a public association that encourages public edits to Google maps and to creating new street views. We are the first an only NPO and NGO to monetize public posting of 3D panoramic geolocated images in a public forum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngs-inc (talk • contribs) 13:53, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

I've answered you on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 14:55, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Revised Leadwerks article

The page Leadwerks_(game_engine) has been updated with the recommended revisions. Please see the talk page for details. Josh Klint (talk) 19:48, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

New revision is available. See talk page for details, thanks. Josh Klint (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Nilip Deb page is not LIVE yet

This help request has been answered. If you need more help, you can ask another question on your talk page, contact the responding user(s) directly on their user talk page, or consider visiting the Teahouse.

My page is not LIVE yet, it was updated on 15feb2017 by me and user name is also changed from Nilipdeb to Nilip Deb. I tried my name Nilip Deb to search in Misplaced Pages search box and nothing comes out, even in few pages where my name is included, created by others, is also showing my name BLACK in color. Hope there is no major mistake I made during creating my page.

Please help me out and let my page or user page go LIVE

Thank you so much.

--Nilip Deb 08:13, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

@Nilip Deb: Your page was "live" the moment you created it. I had moved it to your user page because it seemed to be an explanatory page about yourself, and not an encyclopedic article. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia and not social media. Writing an article about yourself is not forbidden, but highly discouraged per the policy on autobiographies(please click to review). If you are truly notable, someone will write an article about you eventually. However, if you have reviewed the notability criteria and truly feel that you merit an encyclopedic article about yourself, you can create one by visiting Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 11:33, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

@331dots : My account was deleted and the info conveyed to me today, so again I tried with shorter editted version, hope this time it will get LIVE. Thank you so much. --Nilip Deb 14:22, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

@Nilip Deb:I'm not sure you understand what Misplaced Pages is for- your user page is not a substitute for an article, or a page for you to promote yourself. Please review some of the policies I have linked to above before you edit further. 331dot (talk) 14:26, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections

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User:TBBC

I've already reported this long-term vandal and nothing has been done. Could you please step in? 2A02:C7F:8E16:8300:E42B:2F78:719B:CAAE (talk) 12:29, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

You are certainly able to report a user like that, but you still cannot edit war, even if you are correct. I honestly don't know who is correct, but the dispute needs to be discussed on the talk page. 331dot (talk) 12:31, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

I'd say I'm correct, since he's continually gutting reliable sources from Survivor Series (1992) and has been doing it for over a year now. 2A02:C7F:8E16:8300:E42B:2F78:719B:CAAE (talk) 12:34, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.3

Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed.

Still a MASSIVE backlog

We now have 823 New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced.
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Help?

Hey, this Snooganssnoogans editor cut and pasted the same text from a non RS source (Indy100) into dozens of articles. Indy100 is the independent's version of Buzzfeed's "12 different ways your candbars are racist"-type model. I tried to undo these edits but I was blocked by ‪General Ization for vandalism... was I in the wrong? If not, can you fix them? I don't think I should edit articles until my block expires. 107.77.223.135 (talk) 02:44, 2 March 2017 (UTC)‬

In all honesty you probably should not be editing while logged out at all; it could be seen as block evasion. You need to make the appropriate block appeal if you wish to be unblocked. I am not 100 percent familiar with this matter so I defer to the admin's judgement. If someone is editing improperly, you should make use of available dispute resolution procedures. 331dot (talk) 02:49, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

About my username

Katarn Labs is not and has never been an organization, I find it rather funny that you would merely assume this and request my name be changed rather than do a simple google search KatarnLabs (talk) 21:35, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

@KatarnLabs: Then I apologize for disturbing you. I don't think it unreasonable to think that "Katarn Laboratory"(labs) might be an organization or establishment. Not every organization has an internet presence, and even if it did, people use the internet and Misplaced Pages in different ways. 331dot (talk) 21:39, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Impeachment of Park Geun-hye

On 10 March 2017, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Impeachment of Park Geun-hye, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 06:48, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

Congraduration

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	Yes, you have done this TheOnlineAuthority (talk) 22:52, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Anzulovic

Hi,

I took your advice and created a section on talk page. I stated my reasons there why Anzulovic should not be used as a source. Hope we can come to an agreement. 91.148.77.114 (talk) 11:11, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

To be honest I have no position on the matter as I know little about Serbian history; my only interest in the page was seeing the change reverted a couple times. See bold, revert discuss; once you make a change, and are reverted, it is up to you to explain it on the talk page and explain why it is needed. I might suggest contacting the original person that reverted you to discuss the matter. 331dot (talk) 11:16, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. 91.148.77.114 (talk) 11:23, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Latvian integration

Hi, my arguments are on Nordic countries talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krakeni9 (talk • contribs) 11:19, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

@Krakeni9: I am aware of that, however standard procedure is for the status quo to remain while those seeking a change justify it, explain why it is needed, and gain consensus for it. 331dot (talk) 11:24, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

March 2017

Hello 331dot. Thanks for patrolling new pages – it's a very important task! I'm just letting you know, however, that there is consensus that we shouldn't tag pages as lacking context (CSD A1) and/or content (CSD A3) moments after they are created. It's usually best to wait at least 10–15 minutes for more content to be added if the page is very short, and the articles should not be marked as patrolled. Tagging such pages in a very short space of time may drive away well-meaning contributors, which is not good for Misplaced Pages. Attack pages (G10), blatant nonsense (G1), copyright violations (G12) and pure vandalism/blatant hoaxes (G3) should of course still be tagged and deleted immediately. Thanks.Template:Z149 -KAP03() 14:44, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

@KAP03: I am aware of that. If you are referring to PewdsDidNothingWrong, the edit summary by the creator stated "nigger faggot", indicating that the page was vandalism. Since it simply restated the title, I used that criterion. Perhaps I should have added the vandalism one as well, but the A3 seemed so blatantly obvious and unlikely to be expanded so I used that one. I've also been told that regular users generally should not be templated. Thanks 331dot (talk) 14:47, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Kincl4

I was told by your Speedy Deletion page to make changes to HyperPlay RPG, so I did. I received a message saying "You just made your tenth edit; thank you, and please keep going!" so I did. I received messages from "Alex" that I could not read in full. I can't seem to reply to these. I was told I was writing about a "game". I was not (it's a magazine).

I was told to substantiate praise so I was working on providing a surfeit of links. I was then cut off for doing those edits!

Please can someone reply? It's my first time here and I don't know why I am being treated in such a draconian manner when I have been working hard to change the article to meet your guidelines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kincl4 (talk • contribs) 11:42, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry for your experiences here so far. No offense is intended by anyone. I would stress that is is rare for a new user to successfully create an article on their very first try. It is something that takes skill and practice. I see that the deleting administrator has moved the page to your user space where you can work on it until it is ready for posting. You may want to take some time to learn how things are done on Misplaced Pages before attempting to do so, and even start small at first by editing existing articles to get a feel for editing, before moving up to creating an article.

Your page about the game(you state it is a magazine, but an RPG is a game regardless of format) was flooded with external links to the game, which suggests to others you were promoting it, even if that wasn't your intention. In order to have an article on Misplaced Pages, the article must indicate with independent reliable sources how the game/magazine is notable per guidelines. I would suggest reviewing those guidelines before you work on the article further. If you have any other questions, please post them here. 331dot (talk) 11:48, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I would further add that the article must not simply consist of praise about the game, even if cited. That could also be seen as promotional. I would suggest looking at other articles about similar subjects to get a feel for how they should be structured. 331dot (talk) 11:52, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Kincl4 (talk) 12:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC) The magazine is called "HyperPlay RPG" because it's about RPGs! It is not a game. "Computer and Video Games" was a magazine, not games. "Mean Machines" was a magazine, not machines. "Total Film" was a magazine, not a film. Etc etc. Just because something ends "RPG" does not make it a game. All this shows that none of the links I submitted have been checked, just arbitrarily dismissed. I have completely watered down the page to make it vanilla and substantiated anything remotely subjective with objective links (i.e. by third parties). Please approve the page. Kincl4 Kincl4 (talk) 12:02, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the confusion. My suggestion would be for you to submit your article through Articles for Creation where you can get feedback on it before it is moved into the main encyclopedia. I don't think it would be approved in its current state, though, because I don't see an indication on how the notability guidelines are met (probably the ones for products). I urge you to review those; they generally require articles to have significant in-depth coverage in independent reliable sources. The sources given seem to be glowing reviews of the magazine without really indicating how it is notable or significant, at least to me. There is no rush to get the article up to snuff, there aren't time limits. I'm also wondering if you are associated with this publication in any way. Thanks 331dot (talk) 12:10, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Kincl4 (talk) 12:38, 21 March 2017 (UTC) I am the editor of the magazine. I note that this is not against your policies. All praise is independent, neutral and substantiated. I am astonished about your comment on notability when I have included in the references at least 5 separate articles/pieces of independent, non-affiliated coverage/reviews explaining how the fanzine is notable. How many other (video gaming) print fanzines are there available these days? Perhaps this should be passed to a moderator who knows about independent magazines and/or 1990s magazines and gaming. I've wasted too much time on this already. It's Misplaced Pages's loss not to cover independent print media - a sad reflection of the times, and ironic really, considering Misplaced Pages's original purpose. I will not be donating again. Kincl4 (talk) 12:38, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

As I indicated, donations to the Foundation do not affect your edits in any way. I've never given a penny because I am not able to, but I'm still here. But it's certainly your choice to give or not.

If you are the editor of the magazine, you need to review the conflict of interest and paid editing policies(the latter of which is required by Misplaced Pages's Terms of Use if you are paid in some way). The COI policy states that you should not directly edit about areas in which you are associated with. It is true that some subjects such as independent print media are difficult to cover under Misplaced Pages's guidelines, but those guidelines are necessary to ensure verifiability. As I indicated, your best bet to create an article about your own magazine is to use Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 12:45, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I would add that you cannot insist that only experts in your field review the page; all articles on Misplaced Pages can be edited and reviewed by any editor at any time. 331dot (talk) 12:46, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Kincl4 (talk) 12:54, 21 March 2017 (UTC) It's not the reviewing of the page, it's the initial approval of the page: if you don't understand why a homemde independent print fanzine/magazine is notable in this day and age, perhps someone else will. There is no point going any further. If the article is unacceptable in its last form (who knows if you saw that?) I can't edit it down any more because it will say virtually nothing. And I never said that a Donation should affect anything - I was merely explaining why i won't donate again. Kincl4 (talk) 12:54, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

As I indicated, the best way for you to get someone else to review it would be to submit it through Articles for Creation. It's not a matter of editing the article to say virtually nothing, or us just taking your word that it is notable, but to indicate notability with independent reliable sources that aren't glowing reviews. It is true that is tough with some subject matter, such as independent print media. Again, I urge you to review the notability guidelines for what is being looked for, as well as the conflict of interest policy. Best wishes to you 331dot (talk) 12:57, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Kincl4 (talk) 13:01, 21 March 2017 (UTC) And what if there are no reviews apart from glowing reviews? Kincl4 (talk) 13:01, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Kincl4 (talk) 13:09, 21 March 2017 (UTC) I've thought of something negative I can say with reference to a third-party comment or two (about the size of the fanzine and its price). How do I edit the article please? Kincl4 (talk) 13:09, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

It isn't just a matter of saying positive and negative things. All I can tell you is that there needs to be independent reliable sources that indicate how the notability guidelines are met. I can post relevant excerpts from them for you if you wish but you would be better off reviewing them for yourself. If you can't indicate notability at this time, the article will need to wait until such time as you can. I understand your position and the difficulty of writing about certain subjects, but there are good reasons such guidelines exist. I think the Articles for Creation process can help you get feedback from others. I again state that you do need to review the conflict of interest and paid editing polices(the latter, only if you are paid). I wish you luck.

The article is located at User:Kincl4/Hyperplay rpg for the moment. 331dot (talk) 13:12, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Kincl4 (talk) 13:24, 21 March 2017 (UTC) I have read the guidelines. I have added criticisms. I have requested someone else write a page. How can I get more "notable" revieweres when you don't accept the reviews of Nintendo Life (nintendolife.com), which even basic research will show you has the most trrffic of any independent Nintendo website in the world?! Can the article please be published now? I don't mind if you put "magazine" after HyperPlay RPG so it reads HyperPlay RPG magazine. Kincl4 (talk) 13:24, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I have added an Articles for Creation submission tag to your draft. If you click the button "Submit your draft for review" and then save, this will bring it to the attention of users who review articles and they will either accept it and move it to the encyclopedia for you or offer their views on how it can be improved. 331dot (talk) 13:31, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Rajeev Kathpalia

Hello, 331dot the Misplaced Pages page Rajeev Kathpalia is a pure Vandalism and hoax because this page creater user has same name of this article. Please Nomination it for Speedily Deletion. LIKE RZZ 12:23, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

@Likerzz: Be careful in using the word "vandalism", which is a deliberate effort to deface an article. That is not the case here; an autobiography, while problematic, is not vandalism. It also does not seem to be a "hoax" as the article seems to be cited. 331dot (talk) 12:25, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Regarding Council of Europe page

Dear 331:dot,

I was born in Armenia and raised in Azerbaijan. When I checked[REDACTED] pages on azerbaijan and other related pages, i noticed that there a lots of one-sided information. Therefore, I have created this profile on my name to deal with these issues.

Regarding Council of Europe page, according to Misplaced Pages Policy, everything including articles, templates, categories and portals, must be written neutrally and without bias. As you might know this page is devoted to activity and establishment of CoE. However, in its critism part, there is written only in Azerbaijan which can be considered bias. Because if it is accepted or some administrators want this way there are also another reliable and cited critism about CoE activity which involves Italy, France, Armenia and other countries as well. Therefore, I suggest we should keep that there are some critisms and other issues without pointing any country. Such as The Wikimedia Foundation commits to the principle of equal opportunity.

Furthermore, this article is about CoE and I dont see any relevance why an original research or report by an international NGO such as Human RIghts Watch should be added. Because this approach could lead to incorporating lots of information alike Human Rights Watch to CoE page. In the end, crisitm part may have more information comparatively whole article.

Imagine citizens of different countries are adding same type information with relibale sources. Lets put this way, imagine I am adding an information with relibale source from an int. NGO about some other country, which will be exactly case of Azerbaijan. Would it be acceptable?

Therefore, I suggest information on any specific country should be deleted.

Kind regards

Musfiq — Preceding unsigned comment added by Musifq.mehdiyev (talk • contribs) 17:46, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

@Musifq.mehdiyev: The above statement is the sort of thing that you should make on the article talk page when removing cited information. I would also add that it is not unusual to provide a specific example of something when a general statement such as that is made. If you dispute a reference like HRW(which is considered an authority on the issue) you should do so on the talk page, to get a consensus among editors. 331dot (talk) 17:49, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

Bring it on

Wow, are you really so pathetic that you stoop as low as to try to delete me because? I don't see how I "violated" any rules so it honestly doesn't make sense. Misplaced Pages is not a trusted website for facts because anyone can post anything they desire. So my page can be used as a fact page just as well as yours would. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WussPopinB (talk • contribs) 15:38, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

@WussPopinB: I deleted nothing; an administrator did. This is an encyclopedia, not free web space to use as you wish. Misplaced Pages does not claim to be a website for facts; we do not deal in facts, but with what is verifiable. 331dot (talk) 15:47, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Warsaw

Hi, I've been in an edit war with an unregistered user who is vandalizing the page, as well as offending me personally. Also a discussion would be of no use as it has been denied before by the same user. Oliszydlowski (TALK) 19:07, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

{@Oliszydlowski: If you feel that's the case, then you need to report them to the edit warring noticeboard. Being correct is not a defense to edit warring. 331dot (talk) 09:09, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Again. I just wanted to ask if it's possible to delete the revisions with vile and crude language in the article Warsaw? User:Oliszydlowski 19:47, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

You would need to ask an administrator to do that(I am not one). 331dot (talk) 09:53, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Can you stop...

doing this? I am quite capable of doing it myself, and it's quite irritating. Boomer Vial 09:39, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

You don't want me to report usernames? 331dot (talk) 09:43, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

You know exactly what I'm asking. Your sarcastic, rhetorical response is not worth responding too. Boomer Vial 09:47, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I in no way whatsoever am attempting to be sarcastic- you posted a link to a report I made about a username. I do not know what you are asking. I saw the name, and reported it. I didn't think I had interacted with you in any way, in fact. 331dot (talk) 09:49, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

The fact that you had done it twice now made me think that you had seen the word "promotional" in the recent changes log, and decided to report them for me. Apologies about the tone, just one of my editing pet peeves. Boomer Vial 09:55, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I apologize for giving offense; I merely saw the name in the log and that they had created a page about their company(it appeared in the edit summary). I didn't see that anyone else had edited the page at that point. I try not to step on other people's toes but I'm sure it happens which I don't take pleasure in. I can understand how it might be annoying. I'm always working to improve how I edit and I try to take feedback as best I can- which I will try to do in this case. 331dot (talk) 10:05, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

I can tell you are being sincere, so I apologize again about the tone I took with you. It wasn't necessary, obviously. Boomer Vial 18:31, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

There's no problem. I've been in the same position and understand. I wish you well. 331dot (talk) 10:28, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

hi

hi user 331dot, this is the user that u just suggested to delete his own biography, please delete that biography as i do not want my personal information to be exposed world widely. please help me delete that page. thx prefix:User talk:331dot/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Branson1120 (talk • contribs) 14:17, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

@Branson1120: I have marked the page as an author request deletion; however, you seem to be indicating that your account is compromised(if it was used by your brother to prank you) and as such it will likely be blocked shortly. 331dot (talk) 14:19, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Human rights defense center wiki-page

Hey I have remedied some of the issues on the page relating to sources and I would like some feedback from you on other problems, specifically to do with issues of notability. Thanks, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oamir (talk • contribs) 10:36, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

@Oamir: I've posted on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 10:45, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Talk: Emerald Theatre

Per your comment regarding a proposed edit to the Emerald Theatre page and the Macomb Music Theatre page, yes, there should only be one page. The historic venue has had many names, and was operating as the Emerald Theatre from 2000 - 2012, when it was sold and the new operators named it the Macomb Music Theatre. It operated as the Macomb Music Theatre until 2014 when it closed. It was reopened in 2016 as the Emerald Theatre again. There should no longer be a Macomb Music Theatre page, as no such venue has existed since 2014. I am disclosing that I work for the company who purchased the venue in 2016; however, my edits are factual. Not sure how to proceed.Pr4dhp (talk) 20:45, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

@Pr4dhp: Thank you for your disclosure. I have already posted a merge tag on the article; if some time passes and no one disagrees, an administrator will be able to merge the two articles together. In the future, if you feel any edits are needed to the article about your theatre, you will need to suggest them on the article talk page first per the conflict of interest policy. 331dot (talk) 21:00, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Are you the same person as Dhp31? If so, which username will you be using? 331dot (talk) 21:02, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes, same person. I will be using Dhp31. When it merges, the Emerald Theatre should remain, as the Macomb Music Theatre is the obsolete name. It's causing a problem, because Google includes the current[REDACTED] description for the Emerald Theatre, which says that the business has closed down. We don't want our customers thinking that the venue is still closed. I did subsequently do a Suggest Edit on the talk page, so hopefully that will be considered when merging. Thank you for your help. I am having some difficulty with the codes needed to communicate on wikipedia. Dhp31 (talk) 17:02, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

Can you give me an idea of when the proposed merger will take place to merge Macomb Music Theatre into the Emerald Theatre? Note comments on the merger by User:Diannaa--Dhp31 (talk) 21:20, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

I saw the comments and have no objection to them. We may need to get the attention of an administrator who would be willing to perform the merge, I'm not sure if they will see it automatically or not. 331dot (talk) 21:22, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Religious Discrimination

How dare you delete my page on the religion that I follow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan Strama (talk • contribs) 08:22, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

@Dan Strama: Assuming your religion is an actual religion (which it really doesn't matter if it is or not), it will need to have been written about in independent reliable sources. I highly doubt that's the case here. Nothing has been deleted yet, only an administrator can delete a page. 331dot (talk) 08:24, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Then where has my work gone?

Please sign your talk page posts with~~~~ so we know you wrote them. Your page is still there at this moment. 331dot (talk) 08:26, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

CD Choice Music

i didn't get any reason Contested deletion about CD Choice Music check news ref please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ismailim (talk • contribs) 08:50, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

This is very old company in bangladesh CD Choice now re-lance CD Choice Music

The article states "The Record label was founded in 2017". I would suggest further discussion take place on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 08:55, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Ref owner email me about this article i got receive this Record labels Trade Licence & Logo Trade Mark By Gov't BD snap Snap Eamil Provement This old company are CD Choice 2008 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ismailim (talk • contribs) 09:06, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Helena Bonham Carter article using British English?

Sorry for my inconvenience of edits today, I would suggest further to place order. KaplanAL (talk) 05:50, 13 April 2017 (EDT)

Many thanks for the welcome :-)

Many thanks for your comments and the Welcome 331dot. Unfortunately, I realized my entry on 1980's Sydney band Spyglass Guest didn't conform to any notability standard until after I created it. In the meantime I have requested it to be removed. Today has been a very steep but enjoyable learning curve for me in the Wiki community. Thanks again. Biloxiblue (talk) 12:52, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Ulnes Walton

You removed my post about Ulnes Walton because I had no other reference. How do I reference what I have known for the last 65 years and what I have gleaned from the locals in the Ulnes Walton area? This includes my Grandmother, who talked in the way that Shakespeare wrote. If I quoted her oft spoken "Ee dostoowenta cupotea" or 'Ee tha's geet thi fustian britches on" or even "Aye - oo's a cre-atching un" no doubt you would not have the knowledge to translate? I have and I could tell you the derivatives and how her 'childer' was actually more correct than 'children' and why she said 'shoon' instaed of 'shoes'. You should be encouraging intelligent contributions such as mine and helping to keep alive the 'proper' pronunciations? Etymology and dialect are my passion and I don't see why you should question my input when I have lived less than 2-3 miles from Ulnes Walton all my life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildieswife (talk • contribs) 12:54, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

@Wildieswife: As an encyclopedia, all information must be independently verifiable. Typically this is done with reliable sources. While I believe what you say, your word(or the word of any user) is not a reliable source. The information must be documented somewhere. Reading the information, it sounds like it would be written down somewhere; in a book documenting the history of the area, the local historical society, etc. We want and encourage intelligent contributions, but we need more than people's word. I'm sorry that is likely disappointing to hear, but these standards are important principles of Misplaced Pages. The pages I have linked to in this post might help you to learn about this. 331dot (talk) 13:06, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

The BHO says, re Ulnes Walton "The local pronunciation seems to have been Oves Walton or Oos Walton; see Ducatus Lanc. passim." They probably gleaned this information from people like me? After all - the written word does not give pronunciation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildieswife (talk • contribs) 13:17, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

@Wildieswife: I'm not sure what the BHO is(British History Online?) but as long as it is something that can be verified, that may be acceptable as a source. The source does not have to be online, just something that can be verified(a book that is not online is fine) 331dot (talk) 13:24, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

You could put this link after my 'claim' that Ulnes Walton was pronounced "Ooze WAH tun". The British History Online says 'Oos Walton' but my rendering is more accurate. They also appear to be talking post Norman Invasion, when people started to try to write down what they heard (often inaccurately) whereas my roots will go back before that. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol6/pp108-111 They also quote another source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wildieswife (talk • contribs) 13:48, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the link, I think that should work. I will add it. I apologize for this difficulty and wish you nothing but the best. 331dot (talk) 13:51, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

I have added a line about this; I invite you to reword it if you think it needs improvement. 331dot (talk) 13:54, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

No block

how come no blocks are happening? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.93.155.38 (talk) 11:09, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

The vandal appears to be using a floating IP. One range of them was blocked, but they switched to another. I see some of the pages they have targeted have been protected; that's likely the only thing that can be done. 331dot (talk) 11:11, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

I did nothing wrong

Don't accuse me of that, he attacked me first on valid entries on Australian soccer players. He should be banned. Get off my back — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesleazyhorse (talk • contribs) 11:25, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

@Thesleazyhorse: From what little I've seen, that doesn't seem to be the case, but even if it were, you are not permitted to fight fire with fire. You can only control your own behavior; if others behave badly towards you, there are appropriate avenues to address it, and without personal attacks- which does not help your cause. 331dot (talk) 11:28, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Do you think you run Misplaced Pages or something? The high priest of infringements on policy. Just leave people to their own devices, and stop criticizing or i'll have you filed down. Clearly you own the joint, so please do tell me how to manage myself as purely as you, so I can win some fancy wiki awards.

@Thesleazyhorse: No one "runs" Misplaced Pages, this is a collaborative project, where users are expected to work together in a civil and respectful manner. While users have certain amounts of latitude, if others disagree with their conduct, the user is expected to work to resolve the issue and not make personal attacks. Disruptive behavior like that will only lead to it being brought to the attention of administrators and a likely block. 331dot (talk) 11:37, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate your reply and level of expertise. However in future please do not reprimand me in relation to matters i'm personally dealing with in the context of other users, who have themselves contravened terms and conditions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesleazyhorse (talk • contribs) 11:42, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

@Thesleazyhorse: I will respect your request to not post to your talk page, however I can and will report inappropriate behavior if I observe it, just as any user can do. I would encourage you to, instead of making personal attacks, to report users who are uncivil, or if you are in a content dispute, to use the dispute resolution processes available to you. 331dot (talk) 11:46, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

comment as OurCrowd editor

thank you for your comment. I've been trying to edit the page for the past two weeks and got a few push backs from an editor called Kleuske. I'm not sure why we are getting reverted, but I'll try to contact him and see what we're doing wrong. thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Avitalourcrowd (talk • contribs) 08:37, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

@Avitalourcrowd: I can say that your additions are being reverted because they seem to be of a promotional nature, combined with the fact that you seem to represent the company, which is a conflict of interest. Generally those with a conflict of interest (COI) should avoid directly editing articles about areas where they have a COI, and instead suggest changes on the article talk page first. If you are an employee or other form of paid representative of the company, you are required by Misplaced Pages's Terms of Use to comply with the paid editing policy and declare such status.

I would add that it is possible the awards your company has been given may merit inclusion, but the format of how they are included should be discussed, for various reasons. 331dot (talk) 08:45, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Reason for deleting creditmonk page

"We" mentioned in the reply is not any group of people. it is just a word to use in collective sense.

The page is not a part of promotion of any product or service.

I felt there is a need to share the information. thus created the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vigneshnaik2507 (talk • contribs) 10:41, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

@Vigneshnaik2507: It seemed to me to be promoting Creditmonk. As I indicated, merely sharing information is considered a form of promotion on Misplaced Pages. Please review this page for information about that. The deleting administrator explains this further. This is an encyclopedia, and not just a place to share information. I would again ask you if you represent Creditmonk. 331dot (talk) 10:47, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

I don't represent creditmonk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vigneshnaik2507 (talk • contribs) 11:03, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

@Vigneshnaik2507: If you don't represent CreditMonk, what group did "we" refer to? In any event, I would suggest taking some time to learn more about Misplaced Pages before attempting to create an article. Very few new users can successfully create an article on their very first try. Some links are posted in a Welcome on your user talk page that should be helpful. 331dot (talk) 11:06, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

Climate Disclosure Standards Board

Hi there, I have been updating the CDSB wiki page with up to date information. The awards section, and the change of job title for Lois Guthrie are both purely factual and therefore not subjective, promotional or a conflict of interest.

The other sections that were edited were rehashed from their website, so I will reword them in a way that details what they do, in order to make them read more objectively and sound less promotional.

Please review the individual edits rather than mass-undoing as the page needs to be updated in order to be as accurate as possible. 5.148.2.202 (talk) 09:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Updating issue, every update is going rollback

I am trying to update with the new content as given by the company itself, but it is being roll-backed? Why ?

If you represent or work for Careem, you should not directly edit the Careem article, as it is a conflict of interest. It looks like you have already posted to the article talk page, that is what you should do. You may also need to declare being a paid editor. Please see your user talk page.331dot (talk) 12:02, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Cavaliers-Warriors rivalry listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Cavaliers-Warriors rivalry. Since you had some involvement with the Cavaliers-Warriors rivalry redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. —Bagumba (talk) 17:53, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Bias against Canadian Literature

There appears to be a bias against the inclusion of Canadian literary festivals, writers and writers association in Misplaced Pages. I just had a very factual article about the Kingston WritersFest speedily deleted (within 12 hours). There wasn't even time to contest the deletion. Zip and its was gone! The festival is certainly of interest to Canadians interested in the literary arts and is of high literary merit. The article was similar in content to articles written about other writers festivals in the world. How can we correct the under-appreciation of literature from Canada? Literary Muse (talk) 16:21, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

@Literary Muse: It is true that many subject areas are underserved due to the bias of Misplaced Pages editors, however that does not remove the need for such subjects to have significant coverage in independent reliable sources that indicate notability. The article on the literary festival seemed to not meet that standard. I would suggest that you draft an article through Articles for Creation where you can get feedback before the article is posted. 331dot (talk) 16:49, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

@Literary Muse: I would further add that I am sorry that the Kingston WritersFest article was deleted, but if an editor in good faith believes an article meets one of the speedy deletion criteria, they can tag it, and if an administrator agrees, it can be deleted without delay. If you truly feel that the article was improperly deleted, you can request a Deletion Review. In the case of an event, if you can demonstrate that the event notability criteria apply in some way, and have the sources to show it, you would stand a chance of success. 331dot (talk) 19:01, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

331d, I thank you for moving that page I created. Now here's a cup of tea! Dinglebat500 (talk page) (talk) 11:18, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Magnum Foundation Misplaced Pages entry

Hello,

As the content I added has been marked with a WP: Promo, I wanted to ask the basis over which mission, vision and project explanations have been marked as such. The first two times it has been a lack of sources/reference the reason why I have had that section of the content marked out, but this time I did cite the sources over which I found my information. I've tried to find second and third party sources to provide an outsider's perspective and not rely solely on the foundation's official website, yet I am still getting this comment. What are your suggestions upon wording to make it work? I am doing my best providing official sources like Magnum Photos, which is a different entity than Magnum Foundation, as you might have noticed, and official statements from other partner organizations that explain the work being done. That is part of the reasons why I rely on posts from the Pulitzer Crisis Center, the Inge Morath Foundation, Prince Claus, Parsons and photography estates consortiums. How can I improve that section then? I know it is definitely more complicated as it is not solely informative as the grantee and project list, but I want to make this work.

Best Praeliamf (talk) 16:50, 8 May 2017 (UTC)Praeliamf

@Praeliamf: From what I saw, it reads as an entry in a business directory, touting what the company does and the awards it has gotten. It doesn't read as an encyclopedia article. Misplaced Pages articles are meant for content that states what is notable about the company, that is, why it merits inclusion in an encyclopedia. As an organization, it would need to meet the organization notability guidelines. Not every organization merits a page here.

From your username (the "mf" at the end) I assume that you are somehow associated with this Foundation; if so, you need to review the conflict of interest policy and the paid editing policy(the latter of which is required by Misplaced Pages's Terms of Use if you have a paid association) before you edit further. If you do have a conflict of interest, you should not edit the page directly, but instead post what changes you would like to see on the article talk page first(click "Talk" at the top of the article, then edit normally). 331dot (talk) 16:57, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh! the MF at the end is entirely coincidental. The MF stand for my first and middle name.

I have stated previously that I took on this article because it was a stub article that required an update. It is an ongoing project where there is a lot of researching involved in finding photographers' estates. I understand that the texts could be perceived as promotional, however I have tried to keep them as informational as possible without relying so much on the foundation's site, as that makes things more complicated As you can see on the encyclopedia entry talk page, there is a talk thread created by another user where it states that the page is undergoing an update and that the ultimate goal is to make it encyclopedic and not promotional. Let's work upon that and I invite you to present suggestions on how to improve the text's wording on the discussion thread for the entry.

The awards listed are the grants they present grantees with. The most important thing from all the programs it is that they go to photographers that work on underreported regions or issues and it provides support for independent journalism. So, keeping that in mind, what would you suggest?

Praeliamf (talk) 17:13, 8 May 2017 (UTC)PraeliaMF

Sorry for the confusion about your username, I have removed the COI tag from the page. You certainly don't have to use or provide your real name if you don't want to, and you may remove it from this page if you wish(or I can). I have no wish at all to violate your privacy.

Since you aren't associated with the company, that does change the perception of your edits by others(such as me and the others who reverted them); it is then just a matter of style. Since you bring up sources a little, I can say that primary sources are usually avoided as sources on Misplaced Pages. There is a role for them, (typically for sourcing things like statistics, location, etc.) but secondary sources are much preferred. This helps to preserve a neutral point of view(as primary sources might be written in a favorable manner, even without such intention) I might suggest that you start by seeing what you could write without using the Foundation's site as a source at all. This might help with writing the content in such a way that it indicates how the organization notability guidelines are met instead of just listing what the Foundation does. Using just the Foundation's website also doesn't support a notability claim on its own(as notability depends on significant coverage in outside sources) 331dot (talk) 17:26, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

I'll now erase my name, for the sake of my privacy. This is solid progress advice! Thanks!! In that case, I'll revert to looking out for news articles from various news outlets and other organizations to accomplish this approach. It'll go way slower than today, as in it might take me a couple of days to finish uploading the information, but this is solid ground I can work on. Praeliamf (talk) 17:39, 8 May 2017 (UTC)PraeliaMF

I wish you luck. I might respectfully suggest that you make a note on your user page or user talk page just stating that you are not editing on behalf of an organization(to avoid others thinking what I did) although you don't have to. I'll also tag the page as being worked on so others will at least give it a chance. Best wishes to you 331dot (talk) 17:44, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

May 2017

Hello, I'm Shellwood. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Jesse Owens— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Shellwood (talk) 08:47, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Zaza (musician)

I saw your note on the talk page about having been declined multiple times at AfC. My recommendation is if a draft has been declined at least three times, and it's clear no substantial improvements have been done (incremental citations to good, solid sources are fine, spamming with YouTube / Facebook / Google links are not) and it is clearly promotional and unsalvageable to just tag it with {{db-g11}} there and then. Ritchie333 10:21, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate the advice as I am sometimes unsure how to treat such a draft. I will try to keep that in mind for the future. Thanks 331dot (talk) 12:35, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Edit on Bibliography article and COI due to user name

Hi, I have requested a new user name but I neither take money for my[REDACTED] edits nor require any. The edit on a Pakistani politician was solely based on the source. To further clarify, I was verifying sources of that information after reading a viral post regarding her education. I read the source article and corrected Wikipage accordingly. Thanks Rabtmedia (talk) 07:12, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

@Sbmurtaza: You aren't employed by Rabt Media? Or are you a volunteer of some kind? 331dot (talk) 07:27, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

@331dot: Nope, that's the name of my social enterprise. I happen to be a journalist and researcher with a focus on social development. Sbmurtaza (talk) 08:30, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

@Sbmurtaza: To clarify, you don't derive income from It? Sorry to press this but it is important. Thanks 331dot (talk) 08:53, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

@331dot: No, Misplaced Pages account was made since during my thesis I saw a lot of ambiguity created by false or slanted information in Pakistani digital arena using source links like the one I just edited and I keep editing any and such errors whenever I come across one. I will look into the rules and regulations before attempting any paid ventures. The only page I've created so far is Pakistan Carrom Federation and on voluntary basis without charging any money to the said sports federation. I hope this would suffice? However, I do want to know if it is against[REDACTED] rules to create a bibliographic (person is alive) page for my father who happens to be a known journalist in Pakistan? Sbmurtaza (talk) 11:46, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

It could be seen as a conflict of interest for you to write about your father. I would suggest that you draft an article through Articles for creation. 331dot (talk) 13:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Deletion notice

I'm guessing Twinkle automatically sent me this notice from you because I had moved his page to his userspace, leaving the redirect behind. I had tagged the redirect for deletion as well but it looks like he tried to reuse it again. Home Lander (talk) 20:56, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes, you created the redirect which the user then changed back into an article as you know. My apologies 331dot (talk) 21:02, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

No problem. It's not my regular habit either to uncheck the box to "notify user" (or whatever it says) at the top. Home Lander (talk) 21:03, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

what the...

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Ukrainetz1 (talk) 11:19, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

before you grossly accuse me like that why dont you read the whole conversation i had with User:Sjö!!!! see User_talk:Sjö#east_german_communist_party and Talk:List of totalitarian regimes, my messsega on User:Sjö talkpage is simply APOLOGIZING FOR MY SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY BAD ENGLISH LANGUAGE! he fully understood what i meant and even thanked me on my user notice box! ADMINS FEEL FREE TO CHECK THAT! Ukrainetz1 (talk) 10:13, 20 May 2017 (UTC) Ukrainetz1 (talk) 11:20, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

@Ukrainetz1: There wasn't a need to haul me into ANI for this, which is meant for major conduct issues requiring administrator intervention that can't be resolved elsewhere; I am sorry for giving offense but if you had calmly explained it to me, I would have apologized(which I have now done). 331dot (talk) 10:18, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

you are apologized! i only posted that at WP:ANI because i thought i got into trouble and wanted to come there before you did! see the ani thread no disrepect but when i was i ip editor there were users which i call "rapid actionmen (who bans blocks and warns 100 users at a single time..etc..." Ukrainetz1 (talk) 11:21, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

you asked " Are you intending to create articles? This is an encyclopedia, and not free web space?" answer well see this section and "User talk:CreightonWilliamBrown"

• your question "Are you intending to create articles? This is an encyclopedia, and not free web space for you to just create parodies. What is the purpose of your parodies?"
• User:Home Lander: "Autobiography For the above reason I've moved your article to your userpage. Please heed the above advice when it comes to your editing"
• you: "Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as Creighton William Brown, to Misplaced Pages, as doing so is not in accordance with our policies.
• you: For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Misplaced Pages:Your first article; you might also consider using the Article Wizard. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox."
• ........"I'm not sure you understand that this is an encyclopedia, and not social media for you to write about yourself. For information on what is permitted on User pages, please see the Userpage policy."

• • I apologize too...i realise there are people who have been on[REDACTED] longer and know it better...i should not reacted like that either...everone makes mistakes including me Ukrainetz1 (talk) 11:58, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

see my apologize above!

see my apologize above! Ukrainetz1 (talk) 12:00, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Accepted. Thank you 331dot (talk) 12:02, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

am going to ask an admin before trying anything...the thing was it was not the text that was "gone to the gutter" it was the "infobox", you DONT have to apologize for that! how could youve controlled my computer anyway and prevented me from pushing a button... Ukrainetz1 (talk) 13:28, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

i mean you had to apologize and you already did (and am thankfull) at the ani but not what i wrote in this section Ukrainetz1 (talk) 15:45, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

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Nyansapo Festival / ITN

After reading your comment, I've reverted my nomination for this article: this seemed newsworthy to me, but, as you say, nothing has really happened other than a war of words. Thanks for your comment. -- The Anome (talk) 10:47, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Inappropriate editing by users DMacks and bbb23

331dot:

I am married to one of the Weather Channel meteorologists who is being BLACKLISTED for some reason by Misplaced Pages.

I edited the entry about the on-air personalities a few days ago and was quite surprised to see that it was deleted. The next time I edited it, I provided the requested sources, references, webpages, etc. to confirm that Kelly Cass and Alexandra Wilson are featured meteorologists on the Weather Channel. But, for some reason they keep being deleted! If somebody needs to have the references and sources emailed to them directly to stop this unwarranted harassment, I would be happy to do so. DMacks and bbb23 are not acting in accordance with the Misplaced Pages terms of use. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keybeeny (talk • contribs) 22:42, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

I can tell you that the Kelly Cass link you placed in the article simply redirects to the same article(if you click Kelly Cass it will take you to The Weather Channel page). While examining the page history, it seems that others are asserting that Kelly Cass (and probably the other person from what I can see) does not meet Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines (in this case, those for biographies) I don't know if either one of them meet the notability guidelines or not, but I do know that you need to discuss the matter on the article talk page. Please review the guidelines, and offer any sources you have that indicate how either of the individuals meet them. (they need to be offered here and not through email; if they are too personal to share on a talk page, they are too personal for Misplaced Pages in general) Please keep in mind that not every Weather Channel personality necessarily merits their own Misplaced Pages article; each person is judged on their own merits.

I think it unlikely that either of the users you name has violated the Terms of Use. 331dot (talk) 22:55, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Because of this editing dispute about Weather Channel meteorologists I started a discussion at AfD. —Guanaco 02:17, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

St. Mark's Church Niagara-on-the-Lake

Hey 331. Just an FYI, but if you find a long article that has no reference, it's usually a good idea to poke around and try to see if it's been copy/pasted from somewhere. In this case, the article has actually already been deleted twice as a COPYVIO, and this version ain't no different it seems. TimothyJosephWood 13:17, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate your advice. I was not on a computer at the time and my intention was to go back later and check for that. But I am glad you did so. Thanks 331dot (talk) 15:01, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Nah. I cheated. I tagged it a long time ago and it popped back up on my watchlist. TimothyJosephWood 15:04, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I was trying to use the template of that page.

I was trying to create a fresh opinion polling page for after the 2017 UK general election. Sorry for the confusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J.pB321 (talk • contribs) 09:00, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

you user eenglish

Jaimiehellokitty (talk) 10:29, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

WP:ITNC

Thanks for correcting my formatting error over at WP:ITNC. I didn't know if I was breaking convention, but felt it should be brought to attention. Apologies for any inconvenience caused, and forgive my foray into experimentation. Thanks Stormy clouds (talk) 17:28, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

I apologize because I probably sounded harsher than I actually meant to be. I just had never seen that before. 331dot (talk) 20:39, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Helping hand in a article i created

Dear user,

Few minutes ago i created a bio wiki for a model / actor in Maldives and was reported for deletion. Kindly i need your help to fix the issue. Since Maldives is a small country this kind of articles is really important for actors, modes, public figures and artist. I would like to request you to help me through posting the article and make that as my first article on wiki.

@MaldivesSuggest: I have posted a reply to your comments on Talk:Abdulla Shareef. Please visit that page and edit it directly to respond; I am happy to discuss this matter there. Thanks 331dot (talk) 23:55, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

My contribution to the reform act of 1887

this contribution took me 1 hour to write. I used multiple online and offline sources for my research and was very upset when you instantly took it down after I had put so much time and effort into it. I hope you will reconsider and put my writing back up. Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.191.25 (talk • contribs)

Hello. Please do not be upset; reversions are a common Misplaced Pages practice, and no offense is meant by those who do them. I reverted the passage because it did not contain the sources you claim to have. If you look at other Misplaced Pages articles, you will see that they have citations included with the content. This is for verifiability purposes. It also seemed to be drawing conclusions, which is original research and cannot be accepted. If the sources themselves state what you wrote, then that is fine and all you need to do is include the sources in your passage. It is still stored in the history and can easily be restored for you to add the citations if you wish. If you need assistance in doing so, please ask me or any other user. 331dot (talk) 16:30, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

user name

Thank you for the altert. I didn't know that. However, I just translated the French page (I am not the creator of the French page) — Preceding unsigned comment added by UMMofficiel (talk • contribs) 16:46, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

@UMMofficiel: That's fine; to clarify my earlier post, your username cannot be that of an organization or position and must indicate that only one person is using it. A name with "official" in it could theoretically be used by anyone affiliated with the university, and as such does not meet the username policy. Please use the link I posted to your page to request a username change(you don't have to use your real name, just something that indicates you and only you are using the username). If you want the name of the university in your username, a name in the format of "JohnDoe of UMM" would be acceptable.

If you are affiliated with the University you wrote about, you will need to review the conflict of interest policy before you edit further. If you work for the University, you are required by Misplaced Pages's Terms of Use to read and comply with the paid editing policy. If you have any other questions, please ask. 331dot (talk) 16:51, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Portage Garage Sounds

Hello 331dot. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Portage Garage Sounds, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Having been founded by a notable person indicates importance/significance (WP:CCSI#CORP, WP:CCSI#ORG). Thank you. SoWhy 10:10, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

@SoWhy: I respect your views on this matter. I would respectfully state that I'm not sure the musician with the article meets notability guidelines themselves(in reading their article) but we'll see what happens. Thanks 331dot (talk) 10:14, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Possibly but no one argued against it yet and as long the musician's article exists, WP:ATD-R says to redirect there instead of deleting. Regards SoWhy 10:36, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

PS: No need to discuss it further though since the creator requested deletion in the meantime. Regards SoWhy 10:37, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

WP:AN/I

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 22:26, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Dude, it's like this IP user doesn't care at all about any consequences. And the worse thing is, I've posted the matter on WP:AN/I and nobody's doing anything about it, and it's been up for 12 hours now... —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 13:16, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I will file a vandalism report for the harassment if they do it again. 331dot (talk) 13:21, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot man. This guy is seriously getting on my last nerves. —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 13:41, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Report now filed. 331dot (talk) 13:41, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Blocked. —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 13:43, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Block was extended to a month and talk page access removed(I think by the blocking admin acting on their own rather than due to my request for a longer block at ANI). 331dot (talk) 13:58, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I think he might have seen the user's activities and chose to extend as per your request probably. Either way, he's a done deal for now. Won't have to worry about him for a very long time. —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 14:08, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Civility Barnstar
	A token of my appreciation for your help for the past 24 hours with the edit-warring dispute. I wasn't expecting your help or anyone else's, but I appreciate it nonetheless. —LRG5784 (talk · contribs · email) 14:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Hi!

I just wanted to thank you for your help in The Teahouse. I hope to someday become as experienced as you!

WarriorsFan30112335 — Preceding unsigned comment added by WarriorsFan30112335 (talk • contribs) 15:53, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

ITN

Thanks. Look forward to participating and hopefully helping. RaqiwasSushi (talk) 15:50, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

@RaqiwasSushi: You're welcome. I would suggest that you review WP:ITN for information and guidelines on what is being looked for. 331dot (talk) 16:04, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

BLP issue

The issue is quite clear, if somewhat complex and multifaceted.

Firstly, DraKyry's version states, In the article published by CNN, the author Andrew Kaczynski explains the process that allowed the organization to discover the real identity of the user. After blackmailing him with that information, the user was forced to post an apology. This is a defamatory falsehood — no reliable source has said anyone was blackmailed by anyone. This alone is a flagrant, screaming BLP violation — it's almost but not quite stating that someone is guilty of a crime.

Secondly, DraKyry's version includes a number of entirely-unreliable sources making claims about Kaczynski, including Twitter posts by random people and a story from Breitbart.com, which is categorically banned from being used as a source for living persons articles by dint of its long history of fabrications, misrepresentations and lies about people it politically opposes.

Thirdly, DraKyry's version misrepresents reliable sources, specifically where it states, based on a NYMag article, Kaczynski could have avoided the Internet vigilantism if he hadn't written the line — the reliable source explicitly does not use Kaczynski's name and instead puts the responsibility on CNN as a whole. Using the source in this way is introducing a deliberate factual error which depicts a living person in a negative light.

All of these issues have been extensively explained to the user on their talk page, but to no avail whatsoever. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 08:39, 6 July 2017 (UTC)