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Global Cities Conference 2006?

I've been hoping that this conference will lead to an update of global city rankings, or at least some new statistics. They haven't surfaced: the current summary paragraph is same as it was before the conference, with future tense changed to past tense. The link doesn't show any signs of life either, nor can I find anything on Google.

Why mention this conference at all if it didn't produce any new data??

This is a joke.

There is no way a globally famous city like Rio de Janeiro is less "global" than the much smaller cities of San Francisco and Montréal!

Montréal is as important as Madrid and Mexico

Stop deleting the photo of Montréal on the side and the changes I've made in the list since Montréal made an ascension since this page was made.

Not according to the source is hasn't. - ҉ Randwicked ҉ 03:03, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Where is Shanghai, Western Bias.

Shanghai isn't on this list, yet places like Sydney/Zurich are? This doens'nt make sense at all. Shanghai has over 20 million people. It is one of the top three finincial cneters in Asia and is the busiest port in the world. Also it is one of the fashion and cultural capitals of Asia. Not to mention one of the worlds most impresive skylines (has twice as many skycrapers of New York) and IS LISTED ON ANOTHER[REDACTED] PAGE A WORLD CITY. Either add Shanghai or remove most of these other western citys. There is definitely some unjustified bias here. - —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RiseOfTheRev01ution (talk • contribs) 14 August 2006.

Both the lists on this page are cited from specific sources. If you can find another reliable source that lists Shanghai as a world city feel free to add it. We can't change the lists that are here though or they would no longer resemble their sources. - ҉ Randwicked ҉ 04:57, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

You think Shanghai qualifies as a global city, higher than Sydney...c'mon!!?? I agree with Zurich, however. I think they should replace Zurich with Shanghai. But no higher than Sydney, I mean Sydney has one of the world's busiest ports, a thriving film industry (Superman Returns, Star Wars II, Moulin Rouge!, are among many films made in the city), it's sometimes considered one of the main fashion capitals, has a distinctive skyline that works (Shanghai is kind over the top, and a little trashy), Sydney's harbour is ALWAYS regarded as one of the finnest on earth, is headquaters to more 400 companies in the Asia-Pacific region, tourism sector is higher than Shanghai's, home to more than four world famous structures that have entered themselves into pop culture....the list goes on!!! I hope you understand now why Shanghai shouldn't go any higher/lower than Sydney, but maybe Zurich!!!—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kill-bill-93 (talk • contribs) 21 August 2006.

Oh, Jack... ҉ Randwicked ҉ 08:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

• this is not western bias, this is UK-US bias.--Pedro 12:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Please read the archives--Nixer 17:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Shanghai, as well as China in general, does not yet have a reasonably effective legal system. In contrast, a person arrested in any city in the top two tiers of the GaWC list has a reasonable expectation of some kind of due process or fundamental justice or its local equivalent. Without a good legal system, a city's economy cannot operate at its full potential, because both corporations and their employees are uncertain as to the extent of their property rights. That is, they are afraid that at any given time they could lose everything at the hands of corrupt government personnel or organized crime. This is also why Mexico City and Sao Paulo are not in the top tier. --Coolcaesar 02:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

'Oh, Jack...'

...Yes, what? You disagree, well why? I mean you seriosly think Shanghai is more of a global city than Sydney. Hmm, I wonder why Sydney is actually already more of a global city than Shanghai, why don't you try work that out

PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE PEOPLE. That list is part of research done by a University. You can't change that list because you disagree with that list. Don't you understand? If you think that this research contains Western bias, then look for academic research on this subject that doesn't contain the bias. DO NOT CONSTANTLY ADD THE CITIES YOU LIKE. Maartenvdbent 18:44, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the problem here is precisely because the article doesn't come across as a dispassionate description of one group of peoples views on what makes a global city, but rather as Misplaced Pages actually the peddling the concept. This isn't helped by the way some contributors like to add the fact that their favorite city is in this list to the lede of that city's article; so it all begins to look like this is WPs way of categorising cities. Clearly if a group of academics has invented this categorisation (and however lame I might personally think it is) we need to cover it; but we should be careful not to look like we are proselitizing it. -- Chris j wood 19:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Should we perhaps mark this as a NPOV dispute? --Raketooy 19:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Who Cares? they're cities.

formatting issues

This is what the bottom of the page looks like at high resolution (1920x1200). All the edit links are somehow clustered at the bottom. Opabinia regalis 01:21, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Hello. It seems that the problem is based on the placement of all images in one single list. I think that if you split the images across the paragraphs, after the section titles, it should be solved. This will of course present the need for separate formatting parameters for each image. I will proceed to it right away. --Dead3y3 00:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

There was no necessary to screw up the article. The only thing was needed is adding two lines that was deleted by vandal. Reverted it to original state. Elk Salmon 01:14, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Added width to bypass Opera 9 bug. Elk Salmon 11:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

This is a joke: Part 2

How about Philadelphia being lower than Houston or Miami? Philadelphia is a world class city once again. It has bounced back. It is a leader in the arts. No city, with the exception of New York, is as well known for its arts scene. No city in the US has more Public art for example. It is also the home to a burgeoning restaurant scene which includes the finest French restaurant in America. Also Philadelphia has many more historical sites than Houston and Miami combined. Philadelphia is a pioneer in its wireless network which is designed to bring internet connection to the masses.

Answer: I think the research is about how important a city is in globalization, not how great my city is because we have arts. For example, many cities on the list are big harbour areas or big economic areas. And sign your posts. --Krm500 00:35, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

This is a joke: Part 3

There's a little town in the Kalahari desert called Pofadder. Often the butt end of jokes in South Africa, let's add it to the new list for extra credibility. It MUST surely be a world city based on the info put forward by GaWC. Just because it was conducted by a university doesn't mean it's accurate or unbiased. Yes, where is Shanghai? Where is Dubai? And, of course, where is my beloved Johannesburg? One could just as easily argue that Jozi's contirbution to Africa is of such great economic significance for a whole CONTINENT that it automatically should feature (don't even think of dissing my continent, scumbag). You could always find evidence for why some city should be higher ranked than another one. In my mind's eye, there is no way that London tops New York, and Tokyo is a "global niche city." Bollocks. Down with the GaWC!!!!! Viva! Viva! Amandla!

Merge from Financial Centre

If you ask me, Financial Centre and Global city are pretty much the same thing. Besides, the Financial Centre article is virtually linkless. I'd say a merge would be a a good idea. -- AirOdyssey 01:08, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

No it is two completely different things. Just put a link in view also. Elk Salmon 09:14, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

City table at the bottom

The City Proper population rankings in the table are hopelessly wrong; where on earth did they come from?? MarkThomas 19:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

What exactly is wrong? Elk Salmon 23:03, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Airports by annual passenger traffic

Given that this is an article about cities, not airports, wouldn't cities by annual air passenger traffic be a more relevant measure than airports by annual passenger traffic? There's a source for this at http://www.iaurif.org/en/doc/studies/airports/INTRO.pdf giving the top 10 rankings, as at 2002, as being London, Tokyo, Chicago, New York, Atlanta, Paris, Los Angeles, Dallas, Frankfurt, Houston. This properly reflects the way that large cities may be served by multiple airports. Matthew 23:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I've searched for this info long time.--Nixer 23:14, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Happy to help! I can't claim all the credit, though - this information came up on the London page originally! :-) Matthew 23:52, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I've been reverting Bjornson's edits to this column of the table. He has a sourced reference from 2005 for the busiest airports by passenger, and has been updating the table accordingly. However, I think that this list of airports is not as appropriate for an article about cities as the slightly older (2002) reference for cities by number of airport passengers. The source I advocate takes into consideration that a city may be served by multiple airports, whereas Bjornson's doesn't. In fact, Bjornson's source shows London and Tokyo to each have two airports inside the 30 busiest in 2005. Thoughts, anyone? Matthew 23:14, 2 October 2006 (UTC)