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BON notification

Hello Bender235, there is currently a discussion open regarding one of your bot tasks at Misplaced Pages:Bots/Noticeboard#HTTP.E2.86.92HTTPS. Please see and comment on the discussion. Thank you, — xaosflux 21:01, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

ITN candidates - NK ICBM test

Hi Bender235. Did you actually make this removal while logged out? I think it might be helpful if you clarified in some way at that page. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:19, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

No, that wasn't me. I'm still logged in. And I'm not in Columbus, Indiana. --bender235 (talk) 13:21, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Hmm. So looks like a mistake or not so subtle vandalism, then? You might like to restore your Support comment? Martinevans123 (talk) 14:01, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Done. --bender235 (talk) 14:39, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

https→http

Thank you for https→http on query.nytimes.com subdomain. Vzeebjtf (talk) 05:08, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't understand. --bender235 (talk) 05:28, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I thought you reversed the earlier change http→https on the subdomain because of the problem opening those urls. Vzeebjtf (talk) 07:25, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

I could do it. But I wasn't sure if that was the consensus. --bender235 (talk) 07:30, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

My mistake. All the references at that subdomain on the page Wallack's Theatre are sans s, although the history shows you made a change for The New York Times at 08:29, 20 February 2017‎. But evidently you never made the change for the subdomain. So my difficulties must have been on some other pages, but I don't remember where. Vzeebjtf (talk) 07:51, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Converting dfb.de to HTTPS

Do you think you could have your bot to convert links from "http://www.dfb.de" to "https://www.dfb.de"? The site seems to have converted to HTTPS, leaving some of the URLs broken. Would be much appreciated, thanks! S.A. Julio (talk) 13:38, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Will convert. --bender235 (talk) 07:07, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Formations(Group Theory) that you worked on, disambig

Hi, I was only able to redlink the article on the disambig page for Formation. Do you know how to make it a real link? thanks, 2601:190:4200:5F8:5EB:7097:E604:2B1 (talk) 19:49, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Bender the Bot

Just wanted to thank you for your Bender the Bot. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 23:41, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Appreciated. --bender235 (talk) 07:07, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Why did you shorten the information?

So the last time I checked the list of the tallest skyscrapers some skyscrapers were removed from the list,the list before include buildings 300+ metres but now it is only 350+ metres? Why did this robot remove useful bytes? Ruskiguy (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

This BOT does not remove information. --bender235 (talk) 07:11, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Wall Street Journal links broken after bot edits

Hey! First off, as a security-minded person, I really appreciate that there are bots on Misplaced Pages that can change HTTP -> HTTPS. However, when Bender the Bot did so for links from The Wall Street Journal, it actually broke links. I took part in a lengthy discussion here, concerning incorrect information here. Long story made short: The bot changes the links in an incorrect manner, breaking them. I have examples. The bot made this edit. A user made an edit request here, with the info that "They're now dead links that redirect to nothing but login pages instead of the articles". I am a subscriber of the Journal, and this is true. After logging in, the links lead to error pages. The original links work perfectly. I'm assuming this has happened to all WSJ links that previously used the HTTP format. I don't know anything about how bots work on wiki, but I want to ask (no dumb questions, right? ;)) if it is possible to revert the changes? LocalNet (talk) 11:01, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. It's somewhat tricky to revert all these changes automatically, and also it's weird that this link

https://www.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575267603576594936.html

doesn't work, but the old link

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575267603576594936.html

simply redirects to

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704026204575267603576594936

I think a better way than reverting the original edits would be to have a bot replacing /article/ with /articles/, and removing .html from the end of the new URL. --bender235 (talk) 11:09, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

@Tom.Reding, Unready, SiBr4, and Solar Dragon: could someone with more RegEx knowledge than I have please help me out with this replacement rule? --bender235 (talk) 11:19, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm unavailable atm but will check back in on his in about a week!   ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  14:15, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

(https:\/\/www\.wsg\.com\/article)(\/*)\.html → \1s\2 in javascript. or (https:\/\/www\.wsg\.com\/article)(\/*)\.html → $1s$2 in perl. by the way this search and this search may be helpful in finding all of them. Frietjes (talk) 15:38, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I have the bot running in no time. --bender235 (talk) 05:25, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Can you please take care of the https://online.wsj.com links you added, which are also broken, as well? 111.83.79.239 (talk) 03:25, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll have a look. --bender235 (talk) 04:14, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Should be finished. --bender235 (talk) 06:09, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

You forgot to remove the ".HTML" after every URL. 2001:16A2:89B8:8400:A52C:BD6E:D8FF:DB4D (talk) 23:08, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

No, I did exactly that. That's what Frietjes's RegEx above was for. Did you find an instance where it didn't work? --bender235 (talk) 05:53, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

This. I fixed it. 1.186.171.114 (talk) 22:20, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. I did that manually. Thanks for fixing. --bender235 (talk) 06:01, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Can you also fix all the links in this search and the rest of them at this search please? 70.80.61.53 (talk) 04:59, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Already did that. Those links that are left are not in article namespace. --bender235 (talk) 05:11, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not talking about the "online.wsj.com/article" links, I'm just talking about the "online.wsj.com/news/articles" ones and the rest of the "online.wsj.com" ones that you touched and damaged. I just linked to the searches of them. 70.80.61.53 (talk) 05:25, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

I'll take a lot. --bender235 (talk) 06:16, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Did you look at both searches yet? 200.84.150.69 (talk) 15:12, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I had a look. I will take care of this in a bit. --bender235 (talk) 17:01, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Bayesian information criterion

This is by far the most common name used in the professional statistical literature. I have reverted your change, for that reason. Misplaced Pages must follow the statistical literature. BetterMath (talk) 16:41, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

The name "BIC" is more common when model criteria are just being used rather than explicitly discussed. Statisticians are aware of the fact that calling this criterion "information criterion" is misleading because it has nothing to do with information theory (notice that the original paper does not call it "information criterion" for that very reason). Rather than going with a commonly used but wrong name, we should go with the correct one. --bender235 (talk) 17:51, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

You say that "Rather than going with a commonly used but wrong name, we should go with the correct one". That is false and misleading. Misplaced Pages must abide by the statistical literature. No Misplaced Pages editor can override a consensus of professional statisticians on the name. BetterMath (talk) 18:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Don't confuse finding consensus with a headcount of which term is mentioned most. Statistical textbook literature is very clear on not to call Schwarz's criterion "information criterion." They call it SC or SBC (Schwarz-Bayesian criterion). --bender235 (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

I have many statistics books that use Bayesian Information Criterion and I do not think I have any that use Schwarz Criterion as the primary name. In the peer-reviewed literature, it is common to have tables that display "AIC" and "BIC"; I do not recall seeing any that used "SC" or similar. Additionally, R has BIC built in. BIC is far more commonly used that Schwarz Criterion. Whether that is appropriate is not for a Misplaced Pages editor to judge. BetterMath (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Yes, the peer-reviewed literature that merely applies model selection criteria adopted the misleading name "BIC". Articles and textbooks that actually discuss model selection criteria always mention that BIC is a misleading name. --bender235 (talk) 05:43, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

You acknowledge that BIC is the name used in statistical literature. That closes the case, as far as Misplaced Pages is concerned. If you want Misplaced Pages to not use BIC, then you should persuade statisticians to stop using it. There is lots of lousy terminology in statistics and mathematics (e.g. an orthogonal matrix should be called an "orthonormal matrix"). A Misplaced Pages editor does not have authority to change this. BetterMath (talk) 08:45, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Since we won't agree, I took it to the article's talk page. --bender235 (talk) 07:29, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Separately, and a minor technical point, BIC is Bayesian. Also, I think it would be good to include a paragraph, in the article, explaining why BIC has been argued to be not truly based on information theory. BetterMath (talk) 18:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

I didn't doubt that Schwarz derived his criterion from Bayesian principles. But it has nothing to do with information theory. Schwarz didn't claim it did, and neither should we. --bender235 (talk) 18:24, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

The way to address this is to include an explanation, in the article, of how/why it is not derived via information theory. BetterMath (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

In an edit to the article that you made today, the edit summary claims that BIC is "not Bayesian". BetterMath (talk) 21:34, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, that was about the category Category:Bayesian inference. BIC or whatever you want to call it does not use the entire posterior (compared to WAIC for instance), so it is inherently not part of Bayesian inference. --bender235 (talk) 05:43, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

BIC is based on a first-order approximation to Bayes factor: see Kass & Raftery . Ergo, it is part of Bayesian inference. BetterMath (talk) 08:45, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Point taken. Interestingly enough though, this paper (although using the "BIC" abbreviation) calls it "Schwarz criterion". --bender235 (talk) 06:26, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Name added

Hello Bender235! How can I get my name added to the section of notable people added? I'm a former tennis professional and coach to Pete Peterson and with Hall of Famer Dennis Ralston, a media entrepreneur and on air personality for radio and TV. Interviews include: Venus Williams, Mike Ditka, Bill Davis, Governor Hickenlooper, Senator Michael Bennett, Troy Calhoun-Air Force Head Coach, 40+ US Olympians, Chris Harris Jr - Denver Broncos, LaTroy Hawkins-Colorado Rockies and many more. I was raised and completed high school at Barron Collier High School in Naples from1982-86 then on to pro tennis after Ole Miss, and NCAA collegiate Coach at the University of Colorado Colorado Springs. Loved in Naples at 13 Cocohatchee BV and in Naples from 1978-1990. Can you assist me with this? Many thanks. COMedia (talk) 16:57, 5 August 2017 (UTC)COMedia (talk) 16:56, 5 August 2017 (UTC)COMedia (talk) 16:54, 5 August 2017 (UTC)COMedia (talk) 16:53, 5 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by COMedia (talk • contribs) 16:38, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

On Misplaced Pages, anyone can edit. --bender235 (talk) 06:29, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Roman vs italic for differentials

Hi, regarding my undoing of your edits to Logarithm, please see MOS:MATH#Roman versus italic and MOS:RETAIN. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 12:47, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm aware of this. What trumps MOS:RETAIN though is consistency throughout the article. Either use ${\displaystyle dx}$ or ${\displaystyle \mathrm {d} x}$, but not both in the same article. So if you revert my changes, please change the remaining ones to make the article consistent. Thanks. --bender235 (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

 Ok, done. - DVdm (talk) 12:55, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Investment

I'd like to invite you to join the Investment WikiProject. There are a lot of Investment related articles on Misplaced Pages that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help get this project off the ground and a few Investment pages into the front ranks of Misplaced Pages articles. Thanks!

Cheers. WikiEditCrunch (talk) 09:19, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Vernon Jarrett

I left a (lengthy) message about my findings for both the name and birth year on the Talk: Vernon Jarrett page. →Lwalt 10:05, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

United States Code

Can you help me edit United States Code? I tried to fix the table of titles to adjust for changes made on Sept. 1, 2017 concerning title 34 but title 35 looks kind of weird now. 21:49, 1 September 2017 (UTC)700jn (talk

I'll have a look. --bender235 (talk) 13:33, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

List of Atlantic hurricane records

@Bender235: Hello, I was just wondering why you reverted this edit, claiming that it is wrong, without further explanation? The subunit for hours actually can be listed as a decimal, and is by the NHC: --Undescribed (talk) 17:49, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

I can be done, but it is uncommon and not easy to understand for the average person. I mean, we could also write "2017.6849" (day 250 of 365) instead of "Sep 7, 2017". It would be mathematically correct, but hard to understand. The natural subunits of "year" are "month" and "day", just like the subunits of "day" are "hour" and "minute", not "0.1 day" and "0.01 day". --bender235 (talk) 22:42, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

Arb notice

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