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Talk:Identitarian movement

Hi - you started to close the discussion on White supremacy here, do you still intend to close it? Doug Weller talk 13:39, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

@DougWeller:--Thanks for reminding.Entirely forgot about the issue.Will be closing it within 2-3 days (once I get my hands on a PC):)Winged Blades 03:33, 3 September 2017 (UTC) Winged Blades 03:33, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Doug Weller talk 12:54, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

@Doug Weller:--} Done.Again, regrets for the delay.Cheers:)Winged Blades of Godric 11:53, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Continuing...

Hi Godric, re: this query, if Brad-Pitt-fan or Obamaisgod wanted to edit those respective articles, there's no clear policy in place to sanction them from doing so just on the basis of their usernames. TrueInsan, per my reading of the username policy, does not appear to be a violation. If there's a specific part you'd like me to look at again, please tell me. If TrueInsan is directly related to the subject, and is deeply emotionally tied to the subject as a religious adherent might be, then they might be strongly discouraged from editing per our conflict of interest behavioral guidelines, but they are not de facto barred from editing so long as their edits don't contravene other policies. If they were writing about how fantastic Singh is or editorialising about his criminal conviction, they'd be violating our NPOV policies, which would be sanctionable. But so long as they're editing with integrity, there's not much to do administratively. Hope that helps, even if unsatisfying. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:30, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Moot as the editor is indefinitely blocked. Doug Weller talk 12:56, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes

I was thinking that too. Got an itch in the old AfD finger eh? ;) :) — fortunavelut luna 18:58, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

For the most awesome username ever!

What the header says.

Whispering 03:06, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

@Whispering:--Thanks:)Winged Blades of Godric 11:51, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

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Draft:Hot Chicken Takeover

I disagree with your unilateral move to draft of this page, especially since I under an unfair editing restriction so I can't move it back. If you really don't like it, go to AfD. No one wis likely to improve it in Draft space. It's already not promotional and well referenced. Legacypac (talk) 16:42, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

@Legacypac:-- Done--Regards:)Winged Blades of Godric 13:04, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

Rv WP:DAYS exemption guideline

Hi Godric, I noticed you reversed my edit regarding the DOY-guideline. You accompanied it with the comment I already addressed on my talk page to Deb about the issue...Any issues about my actions take to AN. Where can I find it? It is not on this talk page.Emiel (talk) 07:59, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Emiel, thanks for stopping by! Please view the intended thread at my alt. acc. t/p at User talk:Godric on Leave.I have no opinions on the merit of the arguments, except that it's a bit extraordinary and given that the phrase change was executed in a perfect policy-based manner, it's time for you to regain a consensus via the RfC which will prob. settle the debate for a long long time.Regards:) Winged Blades 09:25, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Pinging Mill 1. Winged Blades 09:26, 13 September 2017 (UTC)

Thx for the ping. Don't let my edit count fool you; I'm quite a novice in the field of project discussions. I must say this discussion (so far) has been an interesting experience indeed! ~~

pp

It was just a short 30min protect to keep trolls away. You edited 30 seconds after the protect was lifted. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 16:35, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

@Kudpung:--Phew! 30 seconds?! I sneaked in right after the protection ended! Anyway, keeping track of times (the edit history of any page is displayed in local time while logged actions are always in UTC!) from mobile devices is a bit troublesome.By the way, I feel that it's best to plain ignore and revert stray oppurtunistic comments.For an example take a look at Misplaced Pages:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Tensor product of representations (2nd nomination).Cheers:) Winged Blades 16:48, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017

Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017 [REDACTED] Editorial: Conservation data The IUCN Red List update of 14 September led with a threat to North American ash trees. The International Union for Conservation of Nature produces authoritative species listings that are peer-reviewed. Examples used as metonyms for loss of species and biodiversity, and discussion of extinction rates, are the usual topics covered in the media to inform us about this area. But actual data matters. Clearly, conservation work depends on decisions about what should be done, and where. While animals, particularly mammals, are photogenic, species numbers run into millions. Plant species lie at the base of typical land-based food chains, and vegetation is key to the habitats of most animals. ContentMine dictionaries, for example as tabulated at d:Wikidata:WikiFactMine/Dictionary list, enable detailed control of queries about endangered species, in their taxonomic context. To target conservation measures properly, species listings running into the thousands are not what is needed: range maps showing current distribution are. Between the will to act, and effective steps taken, the services of data handling are required. There is now no reason at all why Wikidata should not take up the burden. Links What Makes a Good Collaborative Knowledge Graph: Group Composition and Quality in Wikidata (paywall) Wikimedia and the free knowledge ecosystem by Maria Cruz Another Year Again: 2017 this time (long), blog by Joe Wass of CrossRef Attack of the 50 Foot Blockchain, blog by User:David Gerard WikiTribune in beta Editor Charles Matthews. Please leave feedback for him. If you wish to receive no further issues of Facto Post, please remove your name from our mailing list. Alternatively, to opt out of all massmessage mailings, you may add Category:Opted-out of message delivery to your user talk page. Newsletter delivered by MediaWiki message delivery

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Sidharth Slathia

Hi, just want to ask you that can we take Sidharth Slathia to AFD? It has been deleted several times in the past and seems to be a promotional stunt by a fan.-Umair Aj (talk) 09:38, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

00:21:57, 22 September 2017 review of submission by 65.152.183.234

• 65.152.183.234 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Mr. Epp and the Calculations (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I saw that this article was rejected for not having good enough sources, as detailed in the Notability (music) guidelines number 1. I agree with this judgment. However, the guidelines state the band "may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria" and criterion 6 does apply to the band "Mr Epp and the Calculations". Two of the members, Mark Arm and Steve Turner were later in the "notable" bands Mudhoney and Green River. I edited the links for Steve Turner and Green River so that they link properly to the specific musician and band articles instead of the more general listing of all articles about those names. This is my first time doing Any editing, so thank you for reading, and considering. 65.152.183.234 (talk) 00:21, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

WP:GNG trumps WP:SNG. Ultimate criterion is that whether it passes notability on it's own. The criterion were devised since most bands which passed which passes these criterion usually manages to clinch GNG. Regretably, this fails.Regards:)Winged Blades of Godric 08:55, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Hard to close?

Greetings Winged Blades! A few days ago you indicated that you intended to close Talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Accusations of bigotry, and the RfC has remained in a "pending close" state since then. Are you having trouble closing the discussion or did you just need more time? Or a gentle reminder? In any case, thanks for your diligent work handling so many close requests! — JFG 15:55, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

@JFG:--Thanks for the reminder and your appreciation.Please see my reply to Melanie about the same issue at the t/p of my alt-acc. Winged Blades 16:05, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

i.e. at User talk:Godric on Leave. Winged Blades 16:06, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Sounds great, thanks. And many good wishes for your intense studies! (My son just started on a similar path, so I can relate to what you're going through...) — JFG 16:09, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Heartfelt thanks:)Regards-Winged Blades of Godric 08:52, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

Hi WiBoG, thank you for your comments at my RfA. Your support is much appreciated! ansh666 22:35, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

@Ansh666:--It was a pleasure to support your candidature.Winged Blades of Godric 08:53, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Alt-left

I find your attempts at closure on Talk:Alt-left#Merge proposal discussion to be inappropriate per WP:BADNAC #2. Please leave situations such as these to an administrator. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 15:19, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

@Nihlus Kryik:---RMs, RFCs etc. can be closed by a non-admin irr. of the nature of the call.I will be posting the close within 4-5 hrs. of me writing this, sans any extra ordinary situation and you are obviously free to adress the merits of my close at here or at AN for any review (if necessary).As a rule of thumb, BADNAC is typically obeyed in closing XFDs et al.And personally I feel it is better to adress the close by it's merits rather than the nac suffix.Regards:) Winged Blades 10:11, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

I can't stop you, and I have no intentions to. I was merely stating my view and suggesting that you refrain. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 10:16, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

• If you acknowledge that it's probably going to fall under WP:BADNAC, why are you still closing it? And why did you tag it as 'closing', then leave it in that state for two days, effectively preventing anyone else from closing it even though you lacked the time to do so yourself? Closing tags aren't supposed to be used that way. Please revert yourself and stop trying to close it; it just seems strange at this point, and (especially given the controversial nature of the topic and the close) it'd be much better to hold off until an admin can handle it. --Aquillion (talk) 12:05, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

In all sincerity, that was not a bad NAC.Winged Blades of Godric 16:37, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

• @Nihlus Kryik and Aquillion:--I have closed the disc.If you have any queries, feel free to approach:)Winged Blades of Godric 16:37, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2017-39

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• Wikitext syntax highlighting is a beta feature on Wikimedia wikis with text written from left to right. This beta feature is based on CodeMirror. You can now search through the entire article with CTRL+F or cmd+F when you edit. Before it just searched through a part of the article. The developers are also fixing a couple of other bugs.
• Administrators on wikis that use Structured Discussions as a beta feature or by default can now create and move Structured Discussions boards. Structured Discussions was previously called Flow.

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• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 September. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 September. It will be on all wikis from 28 September. (calendar).

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Future changes

• The Wikimedia Foundation Readers department has proposed changing the mobile website. You can read more on mediawiki.org. This would be a big change.
• You can't use OCG to create PDFs after 1 October. This is because of technical problems. You can still create PDFs. Tech News 2017/37 said the function to create PDFs from books would still work. It is now clear it will not work for the next few months. The developers are working on fixing this. You can read more on mediawiki.org.

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2017

News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2017).

Administrator changes

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• Following a successful proposal to create it, a new user right called "edit filter helper" is now assignable and revocable by administrators. The right allows non-administrators to view the details of private edit filters, but not to edit them.
• Following a discussion about mass-application of ECP and how the need for logging and other details of an evolving consensus may have been missed by some administrators, a rough guide to extended confirmed protection has been written. This information page describes how the extended-confirmed aspects of the protection policy are currently being applied by administrators.

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• You can now search for IP ranges at Special:Contributions. Some log pages and Special:DeletedContributions are not yet supported. Wildcards (e.g. 192.168.0.*) are also not supported, but the popular contribsrange gadget will continue to work.

Arbitration

• Community consultation on the 2017 candidates for CheckUser and Oversight has concluded. The Arbitration Committee will appoint successful candidates by October 11.
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• You can now use preload features in the visual editor. This means you can create links to create new pages and some text will already be in the edit window when someone clicks on it.

Changes later this week

• If you have turned on "Automatically enable most beta features" you will now get the 2017 wikitext editor. Before this you had to turn it on manually even though it is a beta feature.
• Special:Block and Special:Unblock will get the OOUI look.
• The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 on all Wiktionary wikis from 2 October. It will be on all non-Misplaced Pages wikis from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 October. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October (calendar).

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• A new feature called Reading Lists are coming to the Misplaced Pages mobile apps. First it will be in the Android version. Reading Lists are a private user preference where you can see lists of articles on multiple devices. You can give feedback on this feature.
• The search function has used fallback languages for language analysis. This means a language could be analysed with the grammar of a completely unrelated language to find related words. This will be removed from most wikis the week starting with 9 October. You can read more and give feedback.

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DRN volunteer roll call

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This volunteer roll call is sent to you because you have listed yourself as a volunteer at dispute resolution noticeboard. If you are still interested in assisting at DRN and are willing to do so by either handling at least one case per month, or by helping at administrative and coordination tasks on monthly (at least) basis, please add your username here. Volunteers who do not add their username on the roll call list will be removed from the volunteers list after November 15, 2017 unless it is chosen to have them retained for the best interest of DRN or the encyclopedia. In case you are removed from the volunteers list, you may re-add your username at any time. However please do so only if you can and are willing to participate as described above.
Either ways, I would like to thank you for your participation and assistance at DRN so far, and wish that you will continue contributing to the encyclopedia and assisting when available.
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• The number of active users listed by {{NUMBEROFACTIVEUSERS}} and on Special:Statistics will now only include Wikidata edits as activity on Wikidata and not on other wikis too.
• Previously you could create wiki links starting with two colons. Now you need to use one colon. ] now has to be ]. There is now a new Linter category. You can see a list on Special:Linterrors/multi-colon-escape. The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. You can read more about using Linter.

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• You will not be able to edit or upload files to Commons for around 30 minutes on 11 October. This will start at 06:00 UTC. This is because of work to let Commons show 3D models.

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• The font in the edit window is monospace by default. Today you can change preferences to another font family or use "the browser default" instead of monospace. Switching to the browser default has only changed the font on Macs. The option to use browser default will be removed this week.
• If you want to print a page or make a PDF of a page you can do so in the side menu. The way the pages look when you do this will change. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 October. It will be on non-Misplaced Pages wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 October. It will be on all wikis from 12 October (calendar).

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Operation Pawan

Actually never mind. As I was typing I saw my removed edits restored, thanks (I was wondering if there's something wrong with Pearson India, fortunately not). Cheers, Alex Shih 07:04, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Polemic contents

I think the materials in your userpage, i.e. "Religion, a medieval form of unreason...," are polemical statements. Those are "unrelated to Misplaced Pages" and attack or vilify "groups of editors, persons, or other entities." Please remove them. Thanks. --Mhhossein 17:15, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I disagree with this in the strongest terms possible. The comment is a quotation which is permitted under WP:UPYES. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean one should be forced to remove it. Nihlus 17:23, 10 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

I agree he's not obligated to remove it under our rules, though it is strongly advised to not use your userpage to make political statements. Especially when the goal of Misplaced Pages is to really maintain neutral and a high level of academic standards - one man's Muhammad cartoon is another man's Holocaust cartoon contest. Rising above it to maintain a high academic standard, abstract reasoning capability and objectivity is the challenge - so I don't think posting this really offers much to Misplaced Pages, but he is free to use his userpage for whatever he likes. Seraphim System 17:37, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I'd like to note OP's user page states in big type at the top - "The Prophet of Islam said: A hopeful sinner is closer to the mercy of Allah than a hopeless worshipper.".Icewhiz (talk) 18:11, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

The comment on his page is certainly an attack sentence calling "Religion", "a medieval form of unreason". Meaning those who believe in religion, believe in "a medieval form of unreason." This should be removed per WP:POLEMIC. This is while the comment on my user page does not insult anyone be it believer or not. We don't have the right the attack others. Per WP:POLEMIC, "users should generally not maintain in public view negative information related to others without very good reason." --Mhhossein 07:40, 12 October 2017 (UTC)