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	Regardless, you can't be posthumously convicted or absolved of war crimes. His death is what "saved" him, just like Milosevic. ] (]) 02:54, 30 November 2017 (UTC)		Regardless, you can't be posthumously convicted or absolved of war crimes. His death is what "saved" him, just like Milosevic. ] (]) 02:54, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
			:Incorrect. It all depends on the body that is making the decision. see Martin Bormann, for ex. ] (]) 02:00, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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Lead section

Why does the lead section contain a ICTY verdict, as if that is the thing he will be remebered in history? Furthermore, it is written in some kind of broken English. Why does it not instead emphasise the importance of this individual in Croatia's independence, and in leading his nation through war?

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WAR CRIME TRIBUNAL FINDINGS

The section regarding the Bosnian-Croat war with the appropriate war crime allegations and recent development that confirm Tudman's role in genocide and ethnic cleansing needs to be part of this article.

im not a editor. someone please update. http://www.reuters.tv/v/AJ2/2017/11/29/bosnia-war-criminal-swigs-poison-in-court — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:4500:61A:8014:4C4E:1A25:2DC0 (talk) 15:03, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

See page 727 of the verdict, the Appeals Chamber noted that "...none of the crimes committed in furtherance of the CCP were attributed to the JCE through Tudman, Susak, Bobetko, Boban, or the unnamed members of the JCE...", similar to their announcement from July 2016. What they did find (see page 10 of the summary) is that the ultimate purpose of the JCE, which was "setting up a Croatian entity that reconstituted earlier borders and that facilitated the reunification of the Croatian people", was shared by Tuđman. In my opinion, that should be under the ICTY section, but not in the lead as he was not found guilty of any war crime. Tzowu (talk) 23:23, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Regardless, you can't be posthumously convicted or absolved of war crimes. His death is what "saved" him, just like Milosevic. 23 editor (talk) 02:54, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Incorrect. It all depends on the body that is making the decision. see Martin Bormann, for ex. 104.169.18.61 (talk) 02:00, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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