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== Is ADL a hate group? ==

I have read many articles about the ADL (Anti Defamation League), which is listed as one of only two groups that monitor hate groups in the United States. It seems that they are against any anti-semitic articles (as am I), but have no problem with Islamophobic points of view or even hate speech against their fellow Jews if they happen to be Maghrebi (African born Jews). I have edited the "Hate Group" page several times citing several credible sources regarding the ADL, in an effort to portray them more accurately. But each time it is taken down within minutes, courteousy of the ADL or AIPAC who are in the business of suppressing factual information that would shine a negative light upon them. What are your thoughts? ] (]) 04:43, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

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World perspective

I've opened this thread to attempt to collect sources which give a world view of hate groups. Let's try to source first then edit. I've noticed in a couple of instances that people are trying to address the issue of the America-centric tag, by simply removing the word "America" from the article's text. The problem with doing this is that in many cases the sources cited only support studies or research carried out on America in order to investigate this issue from an American perspective. To remove the word America to make it seem like these studies apply internationally is original research. Let's therefore take the less simplistic, but more robust approach of first finding studies which either a) deal with this subject in another country, or even better b) address this topic in a general sense at an international level. We can then use these sources to replace existing text. Edaham (talk) 03:12, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Edaham, sorry to take so long to respond. I think this is largely a U.S. thing. The far right in the U.S. has historically been studied separately from other countries, it has a history of single issue groups and allows hate speech. So for example the Family Research Council has a Canadian branch that avoids any language that is considered hate speech under the Criminal Code of Canada. And the major Islaophobic group in the UK, the EDL, is seen as far right, rather than as a hate group. TFD (talk) 06:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Eye of the beholder

I've run across a discussion where Misplaced Pages was quoted as supporting the claim that Anti-fa is a hate group. Specifically, this line 1) Should this be in the lead, and 2) is this really a significant viewpoint that it should be covered at all?--v/r - TP 22:33, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

The Antifa are not a hate group because they do not practice discrimination against minority groups. Also, it is not a group. The quote comes from a text book, but it appears misleading. Hate is clearly defined, but often groups may combine hate with other activities. The use in the lead implies that there are serious problems in identifying hate groups. TFD (talk) 23:07, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
Exactly, I think it should be removed or at least moved lower in the article. It's not supported in the prose at all and therefore doesn't belong in the lead.--v/r - TP 23:20, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
I have removed it. TFD (talk) 23:27, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

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Is ADL a hate group?

I have read many articles about the ADL (Anti Defamation League), which is listed as one of only two groups that monitor hate groups in the United States. It seems that they are against any anti-semitic articles (as am I), but have no problem with Islamophobic points of view or even hate speech against their fellow Jews if they happen to be Maghrebi (African born Jews). I have edited the "Hate Group" page several times citing several credible sources regarding the ADL, in an effort to portray them more accurately. But each time it is taken down within minutes, courteousy of the ADL or AIPAC who are in the business of suppressing factual information that would shine a negative light upon them. What are your thoughts? Wkretz86 (talk) 04:43, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

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