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:::::: And... they're back. And it turns out they did create the article! ] (]) 00:39, 11 April 2018 (UTC) :::::: And... they're back. And it turns out they did create the article! ] (]) 00:39, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
::I'll leave it unprotected for now to give Oshwah a chance to zero in on that range.--] (]) 00:38, 11 April 2018 (UTC) ::I'll leave it unprotected for now to give Oshwah a chance to zero in on that range.--] (]) 00:38, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
::::: I wrote this article (see history) and the person who has been requesting the edit is indeed Eldred Lee. I am his colleague. He has asked me to edit it back to the way he did. I will be reverting the article to his edit.


== Regarding one of your recent blocks == == Regarding one of your recent blocks ==

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Cyclops Gear

Could you have a look? It was tagged for G11, though was not so unambiguous that I honored the G11. ANother user moved the tag saying they know the brand. Well, they did nothing about the promotional content saying they would in a few days. I removed all but the lead so as not to have promo content hanging out. 3rd opinion appreciated.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 18:38, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Dlohcierekim - Sure, no problem.  Checking... ~Oshwah~ 18:50, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Dlohcierekim - You made the right call by shortening the article into a stub. Not all of the article content was worded in a promotional manner, and "unambiguous" is questionable here. Even when looking at the creator's userpage draft of the article, I would say that the "History" and "Product line" sections need to go, but the references and other content show that this can be worded into a stub and that it doesn't meet A7. I always say to myself, "when in doubt, don't delete" ;-). Oh, and if you haven't read the Misplaced Pages essay I wrote, Identifying blatant advertising - give it a flip through :-). If anything, you understand all this already and can use it in your comments and replies to help others that might not. Let me know if you have any more questions or need anything else and I'll be happy to help. Cheers - ~Oshwah~ 18:58, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

User talk:142.54.194.209

Re:

User talk:142.54.194.209

April 2018 

Hello, I'm Oshwah. An edit you recently made to Adventist Accrediting Association seemed to be a test and has been removed.


I corrected "tenant" to "tenet". Why would you think this was a test?

T Elliott — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.54.194.209 (talk) 22:54, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Ah crap, you're right. Your edit was correct - I've reverted my edit that undid yours and restored your change. Please accept my apologies and let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns. Best - ~Oshwah~ 22:56, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Beach Buggy Complaint

Hey oshwah I want to know what happend to beach buggy article I can't seem to find it was it deleted the article on beach buggy blitz seems to be there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MageMagic009 (talk • contribs) 22:57, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi MageMagic009 - Are you talking about this page here? It looks like it's just a redirect to Dune buggy... if this isn't what you're referring to, let me know and (if possible) if you could provide a link or URL to where the article used to be, that would be helpful and I'll be happy to take a look and help you :-) ~Oshwah~ 23:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
No beach buggy a game by vector unit similar to beach buggy blitz I just wanted to know if it was removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by MageMagic009 (talk • contribs) 23:04, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
MageMagic009 - And this is/was an article on Misplaced Pages? When did you last see it? Who created it? Any information you have that you can share will help me to find exactly what you're talking about... I'll be happy to try and locate it once I have enough information to go from :-) ~Oshwah~ 23:07, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Mark Parrish

The Power Trip Morning Show on KFAN (100.3 FM out of MN) is the source. It is a running bit on the show same as the information about the dinner at Manny's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.53.175.130 (talk • contribs) 23:27, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Edits that add content such as this need references to be cited in-line with them. Otherwise, it could be interpreted by others to be bad-faith (depending on how unorthodox or credible-lacking it sounds). Please let me know if you need help with anything and I'll be happy to do so. Best - ~Oshwah~ 01:00, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
They added it back with only this as a source which I didn't feel was reliable since it doesn't link to anything or even list a date someone could search up. I left them a comment regarding this. I left the regular guest content up since I found a few sources for that and he tweets about it but the oyster comment I felt wasn't lede material. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:19, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
HickoryOughtShirt?4 - Nope, that's not a source :-) ~Oshwah~ 01:21, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Just an update, I don't know if this is the same IP but a few IPs are adding (unsourced) oyster comments , , . I am keeping an eye on it and would appreciate it if you could keep an eye on it as well. I know you're probably busy doing admin stuff. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:48, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
HickoryOughtShirt?4 - Sure, I can try and spare a few eyes. Let me know if things go off the rails and I'll jump in. ~Oshwah~ 08:51, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
HickoryOughtShirt?4 - I just protected the article. ~Oshwah~ 08:52, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much, that really helps. It's really late here so I wouldn't have been able to watch the article. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:53, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
No problem; always happy to help. ~Oshwah~ 08:56, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Ooops

Sorry! I edit conflicted with you on the John Creedon protection. Feel free to move it back to 24 hours if you prefer. --Jezebel's Ponyo 23:28, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Ponyo - It happens; no big deal at all. Nah... your protection duration is fine - the important thing is that the disruption is stopped there and that's what matters. I moved the IP block to 83.136.45.64/26; hopefully this will stop everything but we'll see. Thanks for the message and I hope you're doing well :-) ~Oshwah~ 23:36, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Confused

Why the hell did you get rid of my page calling flat earthers stupid? I was literally telling the truth. Anyone who thinks that the earth is flat is a moron. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liamm415 (talk • contribs) 23:53, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello there. Please do not attack the other editors by calling them 'morons'. Thank You. Thegooduser Let's Chat 01:32, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - lol... the user's blocked ;-) ~Oshwah~ 01:34, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The No Spam Barnstar
Nice job :) startTerminal (haha wow talk page) 00:47, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi startTerminal! Thanks for the barnstar! I really appreciate it :-) ~Oshwah~ 00:49, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Question

Am i allowed to blank spam content from a talk page?Thegooduser Let's Chat 01:37, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - If it's pure spam, yes. ~Oshwah~ 01:38, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
What about a personal school "essay"? Thegooduser Let's Chat 01:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Thegooduser - That depends. If it's added or formatted like they're using Misplaced Pages as a host or a place to paste their things and take it with them between computers - something Misplaced Pages isn't to be used for, sure. But if it can be interpreted in any way to be a good-faith attempt to create content or test anything, then no. It really depends on the content and what the perceived intent of the user is - I judge this on a case-by-case basis... ~Oshwah~ 01:44, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I blanked a new user's essay on their talk page because it seemed to be a personal school assignment. (look in my contribs) Thegooduser Let's Chat See my contributions 01:47, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Thegooduser - Yeah, and the account has only edited twice and hasn't edited since... yeah removal is fine in my opinion here. ~Oshwah~ 02:03, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Signature

Is my signature too long? Thegooduser Let's Chat (See my contributions) 01:56, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - It's an above-average length and a little long in my personal opinion, but no certainly not a violation of any signature policy. You're fine. ~Oshwah~ 01:59, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
How do you make that small contribs in your signature?Thegooduser Let's Chat (See my contributions) 02:01, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Thegooduser - Have you read through this signature tutorial before? This is a good place that'll point you to exactly what you're looking for, as well as teach you a few things. Let me know if you still have questions after giving that a read-through :-) ~Oshwah~ 02:07, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

User talk:KKiranrathod007

Check this out... Delete it? Thegooduser Let's Chat (See my contributions) 02:15, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - I went ahead and took care of that one ;-) ~Oshwah~ 02:19, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Their upage seems fine when I saw it. Could you please take a second look Just in case?.... Thanks (I'm giving you "Free contributions" here...) lol. Thegooduser Let's Chat (See my contributions) 02:22, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Thegooduser - The user page is fine and I left it alone - not a violation. ~Oshwah~ 02:23, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Good thing I didn't tag it... Or I would have been rollbacked. Thegooduser Let's Chat (See my contributions) 02:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Thegooduser - No big deal; it's how you learn. Nobody is expected to learn these CSD criteria to perfection from the get-go ;-) ~Oshwah~ 02:29, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Nationalist editors from former Yugoslavia

You recently blocked the page Hasanaginica. There is a nationalist from Croatia, Stasek who try to eliminate the contribution of Vlach (Morlach) minority to the ballad. This editor never red the references added. He erased references and this is vandalism. EU policies try to help minorities but in this case you help Croat nationalists. Please read the text of article. It clearly states that the ballad was descovered in Morlachian land and was named Morlach ballad. Croat nationalists deny the existence of Vlach (Morlach) minority. Please read first the article. There are references about Morlachs (Vlachs)you avoided. Why do you accept such DISCRIMINATION and attack agains minorities ? 79.112.127.221 (talk) 05:39, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Easy man... calm down :-). Let me take a look and try and help you... okay? :-) ~Oshwah~ 06:31, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Idle curiosity

This may be a dumb question, but I've seen two or three of these on my watchlist. I understand what they do but I'm curious: why do you want to remove the rollback link? RivertorchWATER 05:54, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Rivertorch - Excellent question! I do this for many reasons...
Lets make an example: I add the word "POOP!" to an article and save the edit, then I edit the article again and remove the word (or revert my last change)... If you click on the rollback link and the edits are self-reverted, it'll fail and give the editor an error. The MediaWiki software does not detect if edits by the same user are self-reverted, and hence the rollback link stays and regardless if it'll actually do anything. I add a dummy edit to make my change the newest edit which removes that link, which saves other editors from continuing to click on it as well as automated tools from continuing to load it in their queues. Adding a diff also removes the "(current)" flag on the editor's contributions page for that edit, which helps users who are dealing with certain types of vandalism and disruption to know that this edit has already been rolled back or changed since theirs. Novice RC patrollers would be confused if I allowed the rollback link to stay and they click on it and get the error - I save them this trouble by removing the rollback link and on pages where I know that it's not needed.
Hope my response didn't confuse you too much... in a nutshell, it's for many different reasons that make a small to moderate positive effect on others and save them time :-) ~Oshwah~ 06:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
It didn't confuse me at all. Thanks! RivertorchWATER 16:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
You bet. ~Oshwah~ 16:36, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Clear WP:NOTHERE

Hey Oshwah, This user has been disruptively editing Talk:Jacob for hours now and recreating pages with only two words. I was wondering if you could block Dexter Ramirez (talk · contribs). HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 06:33, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 -  Done. ~Oshwah~ 06:34, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Vantawng waterfalls

There's so many wrongful editing on Vantawng waterfalls. I think you've protected since yesterday afternoon. But someone has said it was not prevent last night. I don't understand why he can edit while I can't.

Please take a strong protection on Vantawng waterfalls.

Thank you. Saihmingliana Sailo (talk) 12:46, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Created that page again and again

Hi, i am sorry you have to revert back my mistakes which i was done to draft:Divya Agarwal, but please investigate that person who create this article because yesterday this article was also delete namely Divya Agarwal then he created same with draft which was also deleted half an hour ago then he tried same with creating it. He is persistently vandalism on his talk page too please check User:Sharvind Page, Thank You VarunMahotsav (talk) 13:39, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

VarunMahotsav - No apologies are needed at all... mistakes happen and its no big deal :-). Okay, I'll take another look into the previous revisions and deleted edits and try and see if there's evidence to assert COI or that the intent here is to advertise or promote. If the article is eligible for a speedy deletion criteria, then it surely will be found. If not, you can always go down the PROD or AFD route if it comes to that (and it qualifies)... Unless the page is a copyright violation, attack page, purely disruptive or abusive, etc. that must be handled urgently, there's no rush here... we don't have to figure it out and delete the article right now. Take your time and don't let yourself feel rushed. That's how mistakes get made (trust me, I've made lots of those haha) which obviously is not fun for you to make ;-). Let me know if you have questions and I'll happily answer them... but I think you should take this as an opportunity to go through and review the guidelines and criteria and take this article down the correct path (if such a path is even necessary). It's okay to be unsure - just ask me your questions and I will happily guide you down the right path. Keep my updated and let me know what you think we should do :-) ~Oshwah~ 14:04, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikimedia commons

Can I "steal" your upage template on commons and use it on my Wikimedia commons upage to link it to my account? I won't vandalize your template. Thegooduser Let's Chat 18:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Have at it. I don't care lol ~Oshwah~ 19:23, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Okay, I'll knock myself out. Thegooduser Let's Chat 20:35, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

upage

How do I "review" a userpage? Thegooduser Let's Chat 21:13, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

...What? lol ~Oshwah~ 21:22, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Question

Why are new users with promotional userpages thanking me for tagging their page? (No offense of any sort here) I don't get it. Thegooduser Let's Chat 21:31, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

(ps. I really should be doing my homework...)Thegooduser Let's Chat 21:33, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
Do your homework. I've never seen a person posting so much on someone else's talk page. Natureium (talk) 03:22, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
He's fine to message me and ask questions if he's confused about something... it's not a big deal :-) ~Oshwah~ 01:36, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Thegooduser - I have no idea. I get that sometimes, too... lol ~Oshwah~ 01:35, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

User:UK and China aga!nst America

should this username be blocked? Thegooduser Let's Chat 22:13, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

 Already done Never mind. Thegooduser Let's Chat 22:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

prayer for confirmed user

Please, grant me a confirmed user. I want to edit my created page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amarnamkenoache (talk • contribs) 01:40, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Amarnamkenoache:  Comment: Hello there, and welcome to Misplaced Pages. You account only has this one edit you made here. Why do you need the right? Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:14, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) @Amarnamkenoache: And which page did you create? Perhaps I can make the edits for you. - BilCat (talk) 02:17, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @BilCat: They only have one edit under this account. Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:21, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
IP users can't create pages. - BilCat (talk) 02:42, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Right. Forgot. Thegooduser Let's Chat 03:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Amarnamkenoache - The 'confirmed' user right is automatically granted after your account has met the requirements; we typically do not manually grant this user right to accounts unless under special situations and circumstances. If you created this page yourself, you should generally be able to edit it without any issues - what error are you getting when you try to do so? What page is this exactly? Can you provide the exact name or paste the URL so I can view it? ~Oshwah~ 01:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Sean Burke

Hey Oshwah, me again! On March 22 you protected Sean Burke until April 5 due to IPs removing some negative content . Today an IP (with a similar IP address to the other IPs in March) removed the content again . I thought I would come to you before requesting page protection. I understand if you think I am jumping the gun and want to wait it out but the IPs are likely the same person or people as they are attacking that one paragraph about assault and geolocate to the same location. Thanks! HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:41, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 - Nah, you're not jumping the gun. It's obvious that the removal is just going to keep going and going... For now, lets just keep an eye on this article and see how often this is going to keep continuing. It's also helpful to leave it alone just for now so that I can get more IP information on this user and get a sense on how I can block the ranges this person uses (if it can be done without collateral damage). If this keep happening like it did before, let me know and I'll take another look. Thanks again for the heads up ;-) ~Oshwah~ 01:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Alright, sounds good, thank you! Just to clarify, what do you mean by "leave it alone"? Do you mean not to revert it or not to request protection? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Never mind, it's been a long day, I understand what you mean. I apologize, it's been a long day. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 01:51, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
HickoryOughtShirt?4 - lol it's fine, no problem. I was talking about myself and applying protection to the article. I want to leave it be for now until the reverts become repeated ;-) ~Oshwah~ 02:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Wythy

Just a very minor point but on Wythy's talk page where you wrote Therefore, due to the extreme severity of your offenses, I do accept your responses did you perhaps mean Therefore, due to the extreme severity of your offenses, I do not accept your responses ? Sorry if I'm just being stupid but I can't read sense into it that way round. In passing, I do feel bad about all this ... it only came to my attention because they'd vandalized one article I watch. I keep wondering if I should have handled it more tactfully and not risked making their difficult time worse. Ho hum. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 12:49, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered - HAHA! Good catch... fixed ;-). Thanks for letting me know about my idiot mistake. Cheers - ~Oshwah~ 01:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
You're very welcome. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 08:12, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Possible mistake in the date of a battle

Hi, i checked this battle and found the article without a single source. I added a source but when i look at my source, there is no explicit mention of a battle at Nisibis between the Romans and the Persians in 252 (OR). However, i have reliables sources dealing with a battle at Nisibis between these two empires some 15 years earlier : , . After discussing with Kansas Bear, , we came to the conclusion that the date of the battle is probably wrong, but we do not know if we can change the title of an article or if we have to delete it and open it back with the correct title. How is it possible to solve this issue ? Thanks for your help.---Wikaviani (talk) 13:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Wikaviani - Yeah that's totally fine. Just update the article with the correct date and the references you found to support this, then go ahead and move the page (or if you have questions or feel more comfortable just having me do it), I'll be happy to do it for you. Either way is fine - just let me know. If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to respond with them and I'll be happy to help you further. Good catch on the incorrect date... and thanks for fixing it! :-D ~Oshwah~ 01:52, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks ! i'll update the article informations but since you kindly propose to me to move the article, i'll let you do it because i'm a new user and i do not have so much experience for this kind of stuff. Thanks again for your help.---Wikaviani (talk) 06:41, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
@Oshwah: It's done, here is the article with sources and correct dates, you can just change the date in the title and replace it with 235 or 237. Thanks.---Wikaviani (talk) 16:37, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Wikaviani -  Done. The page has been moved to Siege of Nisibis (235). Let me know if I can do anything else for you and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers - ~Oshwah~ 16:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Oshwah Thank you very much for your help !---Wikaviani (talk) 17:27, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Wikaviani - You bet; always happy to help :-) ~Oshwah~ 17:29, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Maybe someone should do this...

I feel like someone should delete my Misplaced Pages accounts User:CircleDraw037, User:CircleDraw036, User:CircleDraw+123+4 and User:Kameron Chia directly from the 'user' table in the MySQL database. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.52.88.141 (talk) 15:13, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello there. I don't think it is possible to delete user accounts. Thegooduser Let's Chat 16:54, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi there! Deleting accounts is not possible. Just simply stop logging into the account or using it at all (just pretend as if it were deleted and gone forever and never use it again), and you'll be absolutely fine. If you have any more questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Best regards - ~Oshwah~ 01:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
@Oshwah: Note that all of those accounts were "Vandalism or wreck Misplaced Pages accounts" Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:54, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Comment for Signpost piece on AN/I research

Hi,

I'm currently writing a Signpost article on the recent Community health initiative research on the Administrator's Incident Noticeboard and would like to include some comments from an admin active on the board. I'd be very glad if you could answer some questions and give your general opinion on the survey; if you don't have the time, could you maybe point me toward another Admin who would maybe be interested? Thank you! --Zarasophos (talk) 08:26, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hello. I don't think Oshwah is available right now based on recent activity. So I would expect a wait here for a response. (unless another admin responds) Thegooduser Let's Chat 01:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Zarasophos - Sure, I'll be more than happy to help. Where can I answer these questions for you? ~Oshwah~ 01:55, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Bot

How do I create a bot? Is it hard? Thegooduser Let's Chat 01:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Thegooduser - Creating a bot requires very advanced knowledge of Misplaced Pages and MediaWiki tools in addition to expert-level programming and script-writing skills. Aside from that point, you also have to have your bot tested and approved, and it must also comply with Misplaced Pages's pot policy at all times. Unless you have a very high and very thorough understanding of these areas and the policy, I would refrain from attempting to create a bot or wait until you feel that your skills are at this level first. Bots are highly scrutinized automated scripts and contain many requirements because of the potential for them to accidentally cause a very high level of wrong edits and damage to the project in (literally) just a few minutes time. Having the 'bot' flag lifts some restrictions that even Administrators have - so creating a bot (to say it in a nutshell) is not a casual task or something that can be done in an afternoon ;-) ~Oshwah~ 02:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I would get gray hair when I finish. Lol Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:06, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Probably... ;-) ~Oshwah~ 02:06, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Can vouch, am going gray. SQL 02:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
^^ See? I've written many bots and software projects in my lifetime, and I'm also going grey. ~Oshwah~ 02:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
@SQL: Lol ;-) Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:12, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Make two bots and go hairless Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:13, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Edit to ocean man

Im sorry but if you credit them it shouldn't matter, youtube does this, so why cant you? Thank you for your time 208.92.111.181 (talk) 02:23, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. You'll want to refer to Misplaced Pages's policy and guideline page on copyrights. In a nutshell, even if we cited a source that has this information, it doesn't mean that Misplaced Pages has permission to use it. This is where copyrights and copyright permissions come in - we must verify the copyright of any content we add to Misplaced Pages like that, even if it's quoted and referenced. Aside from this, we typically don't add song lyrics to encyclopedia articles and I believe that there's consensus stating that they shouldn't be included (I may however be wrong about this). Please let me know if you have any questions about the copyright page I linked you to and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~ 02:28, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your time! I have no questions. Sorry for the trouble i caused in March.ThomasGaming1234 (talk) 02:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
ThomasGaming1234 - You're welcome, awesome, and no problem! :-) ~Oshwah~ 03:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Question

Are you willing to adopt editors? Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I mentor many users - of course. ;-) ~Oshwah~ 02:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Could you adopt me? Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Sure - what do you need help with or mentoring on? What do you want to get out of this mentoring? I need to know exactly what's going on and why, what aspect(s) or where you feel like you need mentoring with exactly, and what your goals are - the more information the better... ~Oshwah~ 02:43, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I want to learn to how make good articles (You'll see every article I submitted at AFC have been declined). And be granted user rights. I also want to Improve my userpage. Thegooduser Let's Chat 02:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Thegooduser - Mentoring typically doesn't help users with things like improving their user pages... lol. That just takes some reading and learning to figure out how to do. I'm also not the greatest when it comes to content creation either - you'll find much better help from somebody who is ;-). I typically work with users who have had a bad or hard start on Misplaced Pages, who have been reprimanded or put "on notice" in ANI for behavior-related issues or civility problems, those who need help with improving how they resolve or avoid heated arguments or disputes, and/or those who need help with improving their civility, collaboration, or communication issues with others. In comparison, your request for mentoring will be very very easy :-).
Now, we need to be careful and think about user rights and understand who they're intended for. User rights are typically granted based on many findings, including the need that the user has for the user rights, the user's demonstrated knowledge and experience with the area that the user right applies to, accuracy and consistency with handling the area correctly, and that no recent issues, warnings, or major miss-steps have been reported or discussed with the user, and that any mistakes or issues (if applicable) have been matched with demonstrated understanding since the problem was brought to their attention and not repeated. "Being granted user rights" shouldn't be a goal that you have in mind. If it is, then you're thinking things the wrong way here. You need to get involved with an area of the project you enjoy, and if the need for the tools arise and you have good experience in that area and would make good use of the tools, that's the time when you consider requesting them.
If you have any questions about this, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Best - ~Oshwah~ 03:49, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Edits to "East High School (Sioux City, IA)"

I noticed a number of deletions to valid information in this page. I work to keep this page up-to-date, and a lot of information was removed. Can you tell me why? Thank you! CrabCakes87 (talk) 04:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi CrabCakes87, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Thanks for leaving a message here with your questions and concerns. I recently went through this article and removed content that either wasn't cited with any references at all, consisted mostly of original research (which isn't allowed on Misplaced Pages), and other small issues that needed improving. The main things to take away from this are that you should cite any references to content that is added so that verifiability can be established, and to refrain from adding original research (original research refers to any content where "you're the reference" - anything based entirely and only off your experience, relationships, or personal knowledge or involvement with the school).
If you haven't done so, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Misplaced Pages's new user tutorial. It will provide you with a significant amount of help, breakthroughs, and learning sessions that are important if you wish to have an easy time contributing here. If you have any questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to let me know and respond with them. I'll be more than happy to help you. Thanks again for the message, welcome to Misplaced Pages, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~ 04:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

disaggring for the deletation

hey, I know you don't know about raps and everything. the person you deleted is the founder of Rap songs and Hip-hop in Nepal so i think you should review it and contact with popular media groups of Nepal. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pariketkoirala (talk • contribs) 05:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

This has been judged before. Fails our WP:NMUSIC guidelines. Further the page you posted was a real mess and appears parts of it have been copied from a copyrighted source. Legacypac (talk) 05:17, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)@Pariketkoirala: While it may be true that OShwah doesn't know about raps, he does understand WP:notability and WP:CSD#G4. Apparently, this was deleted before per Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Girish Khatiwada, and the latest iteration did not correct the problems that led to deletion. Certainly, your version had no cites to wp:reliable sources to support your claims of notability. It might be that Oshwah would restore to Draft space to allow you to add sources there, but as it sat, it was imminently deletable. Sorry I could not be more helpful.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 05:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hi Pariketkoirala, and welcome to Misplaced Pages! Unfortunately, this article was deleted per this criterion for deletion. This article existed in the past before, but was deleted due to being ruled by a community discussion and consensus as failing to meet Misplaced Pages's notability guidelines (the discussion is located here if you wish to view it). You'll want to review these guidelines and help pages that I've linked here and make sure that you understand them completely before creating any more articles. They're important guidelines and policies to understand - especially if you don't want the hours of time that you probably put into that article to be wasted and all for nothing. I know how much time that writers put into creating and expanding articles and I respect them tremendously; don't let the lack of policy and guideline knowledge lead to your time being wasted... it's disheartening, frustrating, and it sucks a lot. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks for the message and I wish you well. Best regards - ~Oshwah~ 05:49, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Wiki article deleted by you according to the deletion log

Hi Oshwah. I just realized that according to the deletion log you deleted the page on "12:56, 23 March 2018 Oshwah" I just wonder if you can shed some more light as to why this article was deleted "Article about a real person, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject" What or who prompted you to do this? Please see: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/sheikh-latifa-said-to-be-dubai-royal-missing-off-goa-men-outside-was-her-sos-1823124 and http://www.escapefromdubai.org/ Regards and stay healthy TheMonk 147.29.8.1 (talk) 06:44, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions and concerns. The article was deleted under this speedy deletion criterion, meaning that the article failed to provide a credible claim of significance to establish what makes this person significant and why the article subject should have an article. The article can certainly be re-created by another user; they'll just need to understand these guidelines and make sure that this is done so that the article isn't deleted for this reason again. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and I wish you good luck :-) ~Oshwah~ 06:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Following-up with your message and from my response above: I took another look at the article content that was written at the time and I decided to overturn my original decision to delete it. The claims made in the summary paragraph that this person is the daughter and descendant of two notable people (one person being a UAE vice president) to me represents a credible claim of significance and the A7 criteria hence cannot apply. I have since restored the article, and I thank you very much for bringing this deletion to my attention - I appreciate it very much. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks again! :-D ~Oshwah~ 07:06, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

allah gehaktbal — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.169.100.173 (talk) 07:59, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

No subject

this man is a cheater, but i can not provide his Pakistani marriage certificate to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.139.199.139 (talk) 08:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Your edit added unreferenced content regarding the subject's personal life and was in violation of Misplaced Pages's biographies of living people policy - a policy that we take very seriously. Your message here also sounds like you have a conflict of interest or at least have a very personal point of view about this article subject that isn't neutral. Please do not make additional edits to this article and perhaps instead focus on improving other articles that you have no vested interest or point of view towards. Thanks for the message and I appreciate your understanding :-) ~Oshwah~ 08:11, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Is this allowed to be removed?

Is this] allowed to be removed from an IPs talk page? They literally drew swastikas on their talk page (with a KEK in the middle). HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:12, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4 - Yes. Please do! Most typical talk page vandalism like this (where it was made long ago) probably doesn't need to be removed, but grossly offensive and purely disruptive content like that - yeah, definitely take that off. ~Oshwah~ 08:13, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I went ahead and did so while I was looking at your link - sorry if I stepped on your toes by doing so ;-) ~Oshwah~ 08:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I was worried about going against policy. I tried looking it up but my comptuer was being frustratingly slow so I thought a ping would be easier (also in case it needed to get redacted). HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 08:18, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
HickoryOughtShirt?4 - Sure, no problem; you're always welcome to message me with questions or requests for help or input. Like I said above, typical old talk page vandalism I don't waste time with deleting, but grossly offensive and purely disruptive content like that I always do because of the high potential to troll, offend, or cause distress to other users. Thanks for the message and feel free to ask my any more questions should you come up with any ;-) ~Oshwah~ 08:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

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yeeee boiiiiii — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:3F04:4600:7DA8:B31:D0B:29B5 (talk) 09:34, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

what actually happened in ss taiaroa?????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luxshaya (talk • contribs) 11:23, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

The Burglars‎

Hi I saw that you recently reverted an edit on the above article to put got back to gotten and steal back to rob. As gotten is the normal form in Am English and was the original spelling I left it but I changed rob back to steal . Merriam and Webster says that it is sometimes considered as wrong or archaic, the Cambridge dictionary says this is not a usual usage, and the Oxford dictionary considers it informal . In all dictionaries, British and American, it can be considered as either wrong, archaic, unusual or informal so as per MOS:COMMONALITY and WP:FORMAL I changed it for steal, I also cleaned up some of the slang as per WP:FORMAL. Hope you're OK with this. cheers. Dom from Paris (talk) 11:31, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Domdeparis - Perfectly fine with me! Thanks for doing that and for letting me know :-) ~Oshwah~ 11:34, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

No subject

I have added the reference, it was not easy to add it from my phone, so I hope that I have rectified your concerns for you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.192.27 (talk) 13:34, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Looks good! Thanks for adding a reference! :-) ~Oshwah~ 13:38, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Lester B. Pearson

I ran CU and blocked a bunch of accounts. It's probably a bunch of kids, classmates, fucking around in the computer lab. Drmies (talk) 14:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Drmies - Oh damn, I got sidetracked and distracted while I reverted that and I didn't look at the article's history like I normally do. I woulda caught those accounts and blocked them if I had... thanks for following up and for hitting them with a CU block - I coulda told you that it was a bunch of kids without looking at the IP evidence ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~ 14:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Oh I wasn't saying anything about what you did or didn't do--I just saw you reverted one. Drmies (talk) 15:05, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Drmies - Oh I know you weren't... I was just rambling I guess, haha. Thanks for catching that and for blocking off the rest of the users... I'm curious to look at your logs and see how many accounts you ended up blocking from that CU run that you did; "a bunch of accounts" has me curious lol ~Oshwah~ 15:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Last edit

Leonard Williams's nickname is "Big Cat" which is why I added that to his Misplaced Pages page. I do not believe that this is vandalism since it is a nickname that the New York Jets gave to him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.68.200.178 (talk) 14:47, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Drmies is correct - he is referring to Misplaced Pages's policy on articles that are biographies of living people - your changes need to be referenced by a reliable source that meets the requirements defined on both pages. ~Oshwah~ 15:11, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

listen, i want to ask you why you are constantly watching the boku no pico[REDACTED] page, is it like a weird fetish? that kid is like 12. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Microsoft Powerpoint (talk • contribs) 15:15, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

You've got mail

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It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template. David J Johnson (talk) 15:52, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
David J Johnson - Opening up my email inbox now so that I can read it... ~Oshwah~ 15:56, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
David J Johnson - Just replied to you. ~Oshwah~ 16:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Kingsbury High

Why did you delete all the list of headteachers at Kingsbury high school. All of this information is correct and yes, could have been refined but I am not happy you have deleted all of it!

Kingsbury101 is my username. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.171.123.34 (talk) 16:18, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message with your questions and concerns. The section was not referenced by any sources at all, and it also contained vandalism and numerous blatant violations and inappropriate content. Removing the section was the best action to take due to these serious problems. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~ 16:27, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Changes to the 98th Flying Training Squadron wiki page

I am Technical Sergeant John Shortell and am in charge of media relations and public affairs for the 98th Flying Training Squadron. The changes I made for the 98th Flying Training Squadron are legit. First, I added the 12th Flying Training Wing into the lead section as the 306th Flying Training Group falls under the 12th Flying Training Wing (http://www.jbsa.mil/Mission-Partners/12th-Flying-Training-Wing/). Also I removed the picture of the glider because we do not operate gliders at the 98th FTS. We operate the UV-18B De Havilland Twin Otter. Lastly I added or motto which is "Stand...in the Door". This is located on multiple murals in our facility as well as on our trianing slides. I can be reached at for further inquiries to the changes. USAFPT (talk) 16:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)TSgt Shortell

Hi USAFPT and thanks for leaving me a message here. I reverted your changes to 98th Flying Training Squadron because your edits here removed an image and added unreferenced changes without any in-depth explanation. I acknowledge that you are in charge of public relations in regards to this unit (and I thank you for your service, by the way!), but this also means that you have a personal conflict of interest regarding this and related articles, and it appears that you're being paid or compensated to make edits here. Editing articles and pages where you have a personal conflict of interest with is a highly discouraged behavior here, and will certainly cause you issues in different ways. If you're being paid to edit Misplaced Pages, you are required to properly disclose this on your user page per Misplaced Pages's Terms of Service - see this page regarding how to disclose this properly. Again, I appreciate your message, I thank you for your service, and I'll be happy to answer any additional questions if you have them - don't hesitate to ask. Best wishes and happy editing - ~Oshwah~ 17:24, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

I am not being paid to update the information. I was ordered to make the changes to the page by the Commander of the 98th Flying Training Squadron because the current picture is not associated with the 98th Flying Training Squadron. It is currently an inaccurate depiction of the Squadron. — Preceding unsigned comment added by USAFPT (talk • contribs) 19:33, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @USAFPT: As has been explained, you have no business editing that article. You may propose changes on the article's talk page. So you know, Misplaced Pages does not welcome media relations types. You would do better posting to the reward board to have a Wikipedian make the changes you're looking for. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:36, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. How does the organization the article is about have no business editing the article that is about us? "Misplaced Pages does not welcome media relations types"??? Seriously? I am Active Duty Air Force and my JOB is recruiting and public affairs for the 98th Flying Training Squadron. My Commander (whom is not a "media relations type") directed me to make the changes because the current image depicts an airplane that is not even associated with the 98th Flying Training Squadron. Does[REDACTED] want to display accurate information or not? USAFPT (talk) 19:43, 10 April 2018 (UTC)TSgt Shortell
On your user talk page, you've already been given information about the most effective ways to manage a conflict of interest when it comes to editing. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 19:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Courtesy ping USAFPT (see above) --TheSandDoctor 19:52, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) USAFPT - We have rules and community guidelines like these because one of Misplaced Pages's founding principles is to preserve neutrality with the articles created here. Allowing users that have conflicting points of view, users who have conflicts of interest, and users with similar such issues to make direct changes to these articles compromise this principle. If you wish to make edits to this article, you need to create an edit request - this will allow others to review it and (if no problems are found) apply it to the page for you. Also, as you stated above, you appear to be editing Misplaced Pages under the direction of your Commander... which means that you're being paid to edit on Misplaced Pages per our Terms of Use policy. You must disclose this by following the directions here. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. I appreciate your messages and for your patience and understanding; I'm trying to help you, but you need to have some leeway on your end, too... you know what I mean? ~Oshwah~ 20:02, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) @USAFPT: " How does the organization the article is about have no business editing the article that is about us? " Read WP:COI. We've pointed you to it more than once, now. When you read the article about Barack Obama do you want to read what Obama wants you to see? I thought not. "I am Active Duty Air Force..." I absolutely do not care. Does the Air Force benefit from what a self-serving TSgt wants to write about his/her organization? Nope. "My Commander..." This is an appeal to authority, which is a cognitive bias. Your commander's authority does not extend to private property. This website is not beholden to any element of any government. Honestly, if your boss was going to send you on a fool's errand, he should've sent you to get a spool of flight line rather than edit a Misplaced Pages article. "Does[REDACTED] want to display accurate information or not?" Not really. People send in donations without an eye to accuracy. Misplaced Pages especially appreciates contributions from cranks and crazies because their money spends the same, hence the idea that "anyone can edit." Besides, if our charge against you is that you're just another advertiser, our encyclopedia wouldn't benefit from your edits, anyway. Thanks for playing! Chris Troutman (talk) 19:55, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Let's not respond with arguments that will only steer the discussion into a negative direction or lead the user to become angry and choose not to try and let us help them at all. Telling the user that you "absolutely do not care", or making comments about how his boss is sending him on fool's errands or how Misplaced Pages wouldn't benefit from his edits - the user will only see those statements and draw conclusions and make responses based solely off of them. The goal here isn't to try and tell the user off or shove them out the door after "one upping" them (lol) - otherwise, this response is all the user will remember when they think about Misplaced Pages from here on out, and it only adds to the negative connotation that some of the outside world sees us as. Our goal here should always be to respond to the user respectfully, assist the user with policies and guidelines, explain how things work here, and give the user an opportunity to ask questions. It may not send everyone away happy, but the user was at least given respectful responses and opportunities to ask questions to people who were willing to answer them... ~Oshwah~ 20:15, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Too late for that Oshwah, I have learned that[REDACTED] does not care about depicting correct information and that "anyone can edit" is truly an "idea" because anyone cannot edit. All I'm trying to do is upload a proper picture of the airplane we jump out of on a daily basis and this guy acts like it's a criminal act. But the "editor in question" is in the wrong for trying to upload correct information that "anyone can edit". Oh well.USAFPT (talk) 20:51, 10 April 2018 (UTC)TSgt Shortell
USAFPT - What picture are you trying to add to the article? None of your edits show that you attempted to add one... Can I help you with making an edit request? Will you at least try and let me assist you? ~Oshwah~ 20:55, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
No thank you Oshwah. After your counterparts last rant of ridicule and childish pun, I contacted 12th Flying Training Wing Public Affairs. They directed me to not worry about it anymore and focus my efforts on our official sites.USAFPT (talk) 21:19, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
USAFPT - I'm sorry to hear that I won't be able assist you with filing that edit request and getting the article updated properly. Regardless of this outcome, I want you to know that I wish you well and I thank you very for your service. Should you change your mind, feel free to message me on my talk page here - it is always open to you and you're always welcome here. Best regards - ~Oshwah~ 21:35, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
I hear you, Oshwah, and I'll leave enough alone. My concern is that we've had other CoI editors that understand what the deal is and make reasonable editing requests on talk pages. When any editor makes article edits as if they are the foremost authority on the subject followed by such fallacious arguments, it shows contempt for our project and the community of editors, which should offend all of us. I think the editor in question knows very well that they're wrong. I'm just pointing it out. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:23, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Chris troutman - Of course; I completely understand your thinking and I agree to some extent :-). I just think that we can respond to users with a helpful and willing demeanor and still hold the bottom line firmly if disruption continues or if a user decides to ignore our messages. That's what I typically try to do in these situations - is it perfect? Hell no. But can I say that in my experience it's resulted in a much more positive discussion a higher peaceful resolution rate? Absolutely ;-) ~Oshwah~ 20:38, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#internetua.com

 You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#internetua.com . 2A00:C98:2060:A008:5:0:0:1 (talk) 17:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)Template:Z48

Thanks, I just added a comment. Sorry if it's not much help; I'm not familiar with the website mentioned in the discussion at all... :-/ ~Oshwah~ 17:43, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Pepe

Hey there! Thanks for your protection on Cave. It reminded me that Pepe could use some form of protection, indefinitely. As you can imagine, it's constantly bombarded with vandalism because of the Pepe the Frog meme. Any help in that direction? Leitmotiv (talk) 17:43, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Leitmotiv! Sure - I went ahead and added pending changes protection to the page for three months. Lets keep eyes on it from here, and if the rate of vandalism starts to exceed an amount where it's happening occasionally (like what seems to be going on there now), let me know or request semi-protection at Misplaced Pages:Requests for page protection. Please let me know if I can do anything else for you. Thanks for the message, and I wish you happy editing ;-) ~Oshwah~ 17:46, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Myriam Joire entry

Hi Oshwah,

P edited Myriam Joire's entry because someone vandalized it. I don't have an account and don't know how to report vandalism. The entry said, under personal that "She is 'mentally retarded'." That's vandalism, so I changed it back to what it said before. Just look at the history. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.14.81.75 (talk) 18:05, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

My apologies; I just noticed this and reverted the article further back. Thanks for the message and for letting me know; I've removed the warning I left on your talk page and I apologize for the mixup. Please let me know if I can do anything else for you and I'll be happy to do so. Best regards - ~Oshwah~ 18:07, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

mplayer edits

I'm the primary developer for H5Arena who is contracted with Mplayer.co I'm editing the page because a person not associated with the service(s) tagged their website in some edits and I removed it. Upon removing it, I decided to write some additional information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:F010:2E6:8E:6913:DF6E:CB2B:9C5 (talk) 18:11, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message and for explaining what you were trying to do. I understand that you have concerns regarding some content on this article, but the fact that you're contracted with this company means that you have a personal conflict of interest regarding this article. Editing articles where you have a conflict of interest with is a behavior that's highly discouraged by the community and will lead to problems with your edits being kept and not removed by others for this reason. You should instead focus on improving articles where you do not have these interest conflicts and issues with. Also, are you being paid or compensated to edit Misplaced Pages and update this article? If so, you are required to properly disclose this on your user page per Misplaced Pages's Terms of Service - see this page regarding how to disclose this properly and be in compliance with Misplaced Pages's policies and terms of use. Thanks again for your message; if you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~ 18:17, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
To alleviate any concerns, no, I am not being compensated by Mplayer.co. I do, however; work for H5Arena, who provides a software package for Mplayer.co In regards to the edits, there are two parts of the response that seem glossed over. First, a user added a link advertising their (unrelated to mplayer/mplayer.co) site. I removed that link. Second, I noted that someone had severely edited out the re-establishment of the company Mplayer Entertainment. I attempted to undo those edits as well as provide links to the sites in question. While I understand that my indirect link to Mplayer.co could be seen as a conflict of interest, it appears that the page was woefully incorrect. I attempted to provide history on the current state. I'm not sure how[REDACTED] intends to have historically accurate details without someone "in the know." I'll refrain from further edits, but I find it problematic that an anonymous user is allowed to tag/advertise their site on mplayer's wiki page and/or make up whatever information they want. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:F010:2E6:8E:6913:DF6E:CB2B:9C5 (talk) 21:39, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Hi again, and thanks for responding here with this information. I took another look at the edits you made. I agree with your removal of the external link to that domain; it does seem like an attempt for someone to advertise, which is not what Misplaced Pages is for :-). Your addition of content, however, is poorly referenced and hence I removed it. I recommend that you locate reliable sources that support this content, then make an edit request to propose your addition of content. I understand that you're not being paid or compensated by the company, but you do represent a conflict of interest with the article subject due to your relationship with the company through your employment. Because of this, you need to comply with the community guidelines regarding conflict of interest and make edit requests instead of updating the article directly. Your requests will be reviewed and (if no problems are found) added to the article by another editor. This will both update the article and keep you in compliance with Misplaced Pages policy. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the response and I appreciate your understanding :-) ~Oshwah~ 23:09, 10 April 2018 (UTC)


If I were to submit a request for edit, how would I go about citing that mplayer has been re-established in the form of mplayer.co without directly linking to the site? Would I have to request them to provide the LLC paperwork? Furthermore, what would I cite to show a partnership between them and H5arena? What constitutes a reliable source for these issues? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:F010:2E6:8E:6913:DF6E:CB2B:9C5 (talk) 23:16, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Nah, nothing like that. You just need to locate references that are independent from the subject and are secondary (described on this guideline page) - like a news cite announcing this in a cover story... that would be the ideal reference you'll most likely find and would be reliable. Find that kind of a reference and you'll be good to go. If you have any more questions, let me know... ~Oshwah~ 23:19, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

So a link like https://www.engadget.com/2015/10/22/mplayer-relaunch/ would be sufficient to say Mplayer is relaunching? So basically, as long as it isn't the site itself, we can use it as a citation? Also, I can't find an option for request edit. According to wikipedia's description, there should be a "View Source" tab to request edits, however; I do not see one.

Yeah, man... that'll work just fine. Well done! Your next step now is to create an edit request so that it can be reviewed and applied to the article by another editor - just follow the directions on that page in order to do so. If you have questions about creating that request or get stuck anywhere, let me know and I'll be happy to help you through it. Thanks again for being so willing to comply with Misplaced Pages's policy and letting me assist you with this. It makes my job a lot more easier ;-) ~Oshwah~ 23:28, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

BBC IP vandal

Hello again Oshwah, As requested, a duplicate message regarding the BBC IP vandal 86.9.95.201 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who is still making unsourced changes to a host of BBC articles and refuses to engage on their Talk page. In the main the IP's changes are located in the Bath and North-East Somerset area; although there is a query regarding recent (today) unsourced edits on the same subject from 81.174.183.184 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), which appears to be in London. I believe the two may be connected, as there have been random unsourced changes of the same type before. The main changes are on the List of BBC newsreaders and reporters, BBC News (TV channel), BBC World News and BBC One. As you are aware, I'm taking a, hopefully, short Wikibreak - due to family circumstances - but hope to be back soon. With best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 18:27, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

No subject

Hello I would like to mess around on a legit page if this is not possible I won't not greg 23 thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Notgreg23 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Notgreg23 - The Misplaced Pages sandbox or your personal sandbox are the places to test edits and experiment with changes, not to articles that are live and available to the public. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~ 18:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Dionysus page

Hello Oshwah, the change I have made in[REDACTED] has been to expose that Dionysus was the homosexual pattern. I would like this information to be included again. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.228.21.131 (talk) 19:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello 77.228.21.131, do you have a reliable source to back that up? Otherwise it could be considered libel/slander. On Misplaced Pages, the biographies of living people guideline states that "challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation; material not meeting this standard may be removed." Given that you did not provide a reliable source, the removal was proper/correct. If you have any questions, please feel free to let us know here. -- (talk page stalker) TheSandDoctor 19:38, 10 April 2018 (UTC); edited 20:28, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
BLP applies to ancient Greek gods? However, first I've heard of this and a reliable source is essential to keep that addition.19:58, 10 April 2018 (UTC)--Dlohcierekim (talk)
(edit conflict) (x3) @Dlohcierekim: Apparently . Not sure where that came from. Aside from the BLP bit, the rest still stands. Struck nonsense accordingly. Thank you for pointing that out. --TheSandDoctor 20:28, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
U R welcome. --Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:32, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Barnstar

The Admin's Barnstar
'Cause you are the admin I want to most be like when I grow up. You naturally mentor and nurture while mopping up.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Dlohcierekim! Thanks for the barnstar and the kind words! I appreciate it very much and it means a lot :-) ~Oshwah~ 20:42, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Bell Canada vandal

Hi Oshwah, do you remember this report at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive975#Rangeblock_possible?? --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:30, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Malcolmxl5 - I.... do now :-) (I just read through it again). Why, what's up? Is something going on again from this range? ~Oshwah~ 20:41, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
No problem at present. :-) The miscreant is currently serving four three-month /22 global rangeblocks, which seem to be holding up pretty well. Details at User:Malcolmxl5/Bell Canada vandal. Just felt the need to share in case they ever pop up again and I’m not around. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:55, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Malcolmxl5 - That's a relief :-)... I thought maybe trouble was starting to brew again and we'd have to work to re-calculate some ranges to extend. Perfect; that's excellent news - I'll give the page you linked a read-though and make sure to keep eyes on these ranges. Never a bad idea to coordinate just in case; I totally agree. Thanks for the message and the update, and feel free to stop by any time with more ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~ 21:00, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that

Huggle seems to gone a bit sideways on me. Sorry for the misplaced warning. IronGargoyle (talk) 20:38, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

IronGargoyle - Oh dude no worries; it does it to me sometimes as well - not sure why, but it does happen. No big deal ;-) ~Oshwah~ 20:40, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
IronGargoyle - Oh, and speaking of Amnesia (5 Seconds of Summer song) and going sideways (lol): we managed to protect the article at the same time, and I overwrote the protection you applied with mine... my apologies. Feel free to modify the duration I set to match that of yours... oh wait, we set the same duration.... lol nevermind then ~Oshwah~ 21:08, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Doug Wimbish

I don’t understand why you deleted my edit?Will MacKenzieyoung (talk) 21:25, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Will MacKenzieyoung - I wasn't sure exactly what you were trying to do here? What exactly are you trying to do? Do you need help? Let me know. ~Oshwah~ 23:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Article “Eldred Lee”

Hi - I’m Eldred Lee himsef and I do not feel comfortable sharing extremely personal details on Misplaced Pages. I edited so that it only includes certain information but you just reverted it back to the article with a lot of details. I deleted the whole “Academic background and personal life” section on purpose. Please get rid of this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18C:4300:85A0:18A9:CF28:6982:9BDD (talk) 22:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. In order to receive assistance with your particular concerns, you need to contact the Volunteer Response Team by following the directions here. They have the proper tools and training to verify your identity and help you with your particular issues and concerns. This is what you must do in order to have your concerns resolved - repeatedly editing the article will do nothing, and I can't verify the claims you're making here... the Volunteer Response Team can. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Otherwise, I wish you well and hope that you follow the directions I provided you here. Best regards - ~Oshwah~ 23:00, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Dude seriously, I have anxiety disorder and my information being shared like this is giving me a huge panic attack. If you want a user and the person of the article himself to be escorted to an emergency room due to extreme hyperventilation from panic attack, you can keep reverting it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18C:4300:85A0:248F:748E:628:993F (talk) 23:35, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
This is an absolute invasion of privacy. I do not want any small details regarding my life on the web. Please revert it back. I feel extremely violated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18C:4300:85A0:18A9:CF28:6982:9BDD (talk • contribs) 23:11, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Please follow the directions given by Oshwah. The volunteer response team is the team which can help best with your concerns and verify your identity. --TheSandDoctor 23:43, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
It's unfortunately too late... the user chose to continue disrupting the article and he's now blocked. Maybe this will be what it takes to get the user to follow my directions... I hope it does. ~Oshwah~ 23:45, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
It seems like it's not too late since I'm able to edit at another location. Oshwah you just seem like a bully that just wants to do whatever you want to do. I did NOT disrupt the article, I edited it so that it hides extremely detailed information about my personal life. How would you feel if you feel like as if you're violated? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.170.195.68 (talk) 23:49, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Then please follow their directions. As for how I would feel, I admit it might be like you do. But I also would follow the advice given (contact the team with my concerns) and bear in mind Misplaced Pages:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing (ignoring the fact you did not create the article, it still applies) and (specifically) this section. --TheSandDoctor 00:10, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
It was then protected and unprotected 5 minutes later by Dlohcierekim. --TheSandDoctor 00:23, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
It seems that startTerminal asked on Dlohcierekim's talk page for the page to be unprotected. Natureium (talk) 00:29, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I protected with the thought the unhappy person would change IP's and return to sew disruption. Let me know.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 00:32, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
Dlohcierekim - No worries. I was leaving it open on purpose for a bit so that I could gather information about the IPs the user was switching around to so that I could apply effective range blocks. The one I applied appears to be doing the trick........ but of course I'll say that and watch the edits return like 30 seconds later :-P ~Oshwah~ 00:35, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict)I'm giving it a 79% chance they come back and 20% chance they got frustrated that it was protected and won't notice that it's unprotected, with the remaining 1% chance that they fell asleep. Natureium (talk) 00:37, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
And... they're back. And it turns out they did create the article! Natureium (talk) 00:39, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I'll leave it unprotected for now to give Oshwah a chance to zero in on that range.--Dlohcierekim (talk) 00:38, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
I wrote this article (see history) and the person who has been requesting the edit is indeed Eldred Lee. I am his colleague. He has asked me to edit it back to the way he did. I will be reverting the article to his edit.

Regarding one of your recent blocks

I see you blocked ActuallyCardiB because their account implied they were a famous person (namely Cardi B), but this video] confirms that this account is, in fact, that of Cardi B, so I don't think any impersonation-based block makes sense here. Every morning (there's a halo...) 00:01, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Hi Everymorning - it's good to talk to you again. I hope things are going well for you and that life is good :-). I cannot use any off-wiki information to confirm or refute anything relating to users or accounts on Misplaced Pages. Such information was not disclosed openly on Misplaced Pages, and hence is considered private per policy. This user must verify their identity and verify that they are not sharing the account with other people ("publicity accounts" like this are normally shared between more than one person behind-the-scenes) - this is what was determined to be the correct course of action to take with such accounts. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. I really appreciate your message and that you voiced your concerns here; opinions and input are always welcome. ~Oshwah~ 00:11, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
If they were indeed that person, then they could contact the Volunteer Response Team and (correct me if I'm wrong Oshwah) then, once confirmed and the team is satisfied, the block could be lifted. --TheSandDoctor 00:15, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
TheSandDoctor - That is correct, and these instructions are posted on the user's block notice on their user talk page. ~Oshwah~ 00:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Tj miller was arrested for phoning in a bomb threat. There's no doubt he did it. By definition that makes him a terrorist. YOU vandalized MY edit.

Instead of vandalizing my edit, why don't you do something constructive and cite it instead? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.189.142.28 (talk) 00:09, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

All that is confirmed is that he was arrested. He has not been found guilty of anything yet (or even appeared in court) and has not been called a terrorist by reliable sources. If reliable sources call him one and he is charged/convicted of terror charges, then he would indeed be a terrorist, but until then he is not. --TheSandDoctor 00:18, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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