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October 21

Account Creation Interface

Hi, I was reading more pages about how to use Misplaced Pages(its features, etc) and I came across Account Creation Interface and I accidentally registered even though I do not meet the requirements. I meant to press cancel, but since my computer is pretty laggy, it "approved" my request.

How do I remove my request?

Thanks. --Boothsift (talk) 01:10, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Boothsift, I've declined your application to WP:ACC for you. :) stwalkerster (talk) 02:10, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

wish to cancel account

please cancel my account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.128.241 (talk) 01:22, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Since you did not log in, we do not know who you are. You are free to simply quit editing, or you may choose to blank or otherwise modify your user page. See Misplaced Pages:Retiring. -Arch dude (talk) 02:20, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Existence of God sidebar

I tried to add Spinoza's argument from the origin of the idea of God to the sidebar, but instead the sidebar has gone wrong, and now shows coding instead of a sidebar. I don't know how to go back on editing and reverse the process. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.11.86 (talk) 18:15, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

You missed an ending ] in . It has already been reverted. See Help:Reverting. Click "Show preview" to test your edit before saving. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:31, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Help moving page

hello, I'm trying to get a draft moved to become a public article but I don't have the privileges to move articles yet, can I get some help with that? https://en.wikipedia.org/Draft:NC_State_University_CRDM_Program I am leading a class on digital humanities tomorrow and will be asking students in the CRDM program to register with Misplaced Pages and help to fill out our program page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Etjohnso (talk • contribs) 20:49, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

@Etjohnso: Hello, unfortunately that would be a mass conflict of interest. You would have to have someone else do it as to keep a NPOV. Thanks, Kb03 (talk) 21:51, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Alos, Etjohnso, if that draft is moved to mainspace, it is liable to be deleted very quickly, as it makes no attempt to establish that the course is notable. Remember that Misplaced Pages is not interested in what the subject of an article, or people associated with it, say, know, or think, about the subject. It is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about it. It follows that unless there is substantial independently published material about a subject, no article can be written on it: that is what we mean by Notability in the Misplaced Pages world. Most universities, and some departments of universities, have enough published about them to give them notability, but not many university programs. Have you read Misplaced Pages:Education program/Educators? --ColinFine (talk) 23:19, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Creating an article

Hi Wiki,

I am trying to create an article for Obi Ozor, my CEO and I already have it drafted in a google doc.

It's been difficult adapting the template I created on the google doc on here.

Please is it possible I get assistance with it from over there? I could share the URL for the google doc with the team.

Awaiting your response.

Kind Regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adebowale.J (talk • contribs) 22:49, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Adebowale.J. Misplaced Pages doesn't work like that. There isn't a "team": there are thousands of volunteer editors, who work on what they choose to work on. It is not easy creating a new article on Misplaced Pages, and I always advise new editors to spend a few weeks or months working on some of our six million existing articles (many of which could do with a lot of improvement) and learning how Misplaced Pages works before trying the challenging task of creating a new one. Furthermore, writing about somebody connected with you is even harder, because of your Conflict of interest: you are strongly discouraged from doing this (follow the link to see why). This is even more so if you are in any way paid to do this: you are required to make a declaration if that is the case.

Misplaced Pages will accept an article on Mr Ozor only if he meets the criteria for notability (in the special way Misplaced Pages uses the word): this means that several people who have no connection with him or his company have chosen to publish material about him, in reliable places (such as major newspapers, or books from reputable publishers): the article should be almost entirely based on these sources. Very little in the article should come from him himself, or from the company. Because of your connection, you are likely to find it difficult to keep to what has been independently published; and you may also find it hard to write in a neutral way about your CEO.

Finally, you should be aware that if you succeed in writing an article about your CEO that is accepted into Misplaced Pages, you (and he) will have no control over its contents thereafter: any editor will be free to edit it as they see fit, according to Misplaced Pages's rules and policies and what the published sources say. You might like to look at the essay An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.

I'm sorry to sound so discouraging; but we have many people who mistake Misplaced Pages for a business directory, and think they can just post a profile here; they ofteny have a frustrating experience, so I wanted to warn you before you get too far into it. --ColinFine (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

October 22

Swing in waltz and foxtrot

I wonder why the article on foxtrot does not include the term "swing." In Europe and elsewhere, waltz and foxtrot are referred to as "swing dancing," (which has nothing to do with American swing dances such as East Coast Swing or West Coast Swing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.202.43 (talk) 02:09, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. We are all volunteers, and each of of (about 100,000 of us this month) does whatever we get interested in. Please make this addition to the article yourself, but be sure to cite reliable sources (WP:RS). If you are not comfortable doing this, then please open a new section on the article's talk page and make your suggestion there. -Arch dude (talk) 04:34, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, the article on Foxtrot does include the term "swing" (e.g. "Today, the dance is customarily accompanied by the same big band music to which swing is also danced.") As Archdude mentions, you may choose to add more material on the connection between the two dance genres within the article, using reliable sources as citations. Do note that we also have a separate article for Swing dancing. Thanks, Lourdes 05:08, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Weird references rendering

Hello, why exactly is ref no. 24 here rendered so awkardly with regard to the excessive spacing before and after the line starting with Urbina, Ian (October 20, 2009)?--Neufund (talk) 15:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

I don't see any excessive spacing before and after that line, Neufund. --ColinFine (talk) 15:24, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Well, that's funny, since I actually do!--Neufund (talk) 15:27, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

PS: The same problem occurs to me with the line Gueco, Luverne B. (24 September 2005) here: On my screen, a giant space is displayed before that line.--Neufund (talk) 15:44, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm seeing the extra space for certain window widths, using Firefox 62.0.3. I've no idea of the cause, though. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:55, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

It appears to be caused by the CSS for list items of the class .nocolbreak that use page-break-inside: avoid; --Vexations (talk) 21:04, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

I can't see any strange spacing neither in Google Chrome (version 70.0) nor in MS IE (11), except that the first bullet of the list is in separate line from the caret symbol (which links back to the place in Lawsuits section, where the ref is inserted). --CiaPan (talk) 10:12, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments so far. @John of Reading and Vexations: I'm quite glad I'm not the only one experiencing that glitch! Does any of you have experience with reporting errors like these to the programmers responsible? If so, would you mind doing so – I've never done that before …--Neufund (talk) 18:36, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

editing

My posts on Pitcairn were removed. I live here! Nicolas Kennedy is the new admin here, has been for 3 months. No one ever calls the pidgin 'pitcairnese'. Never heard that term before. It is PITKERN! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shudie (talk • contribs) 17:36, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Shudie, and thank you for your contributions to the encyclopaedia. Only one edit was reverted, and this was done in error by an automatic process that detected your removal of a link to another article. A human editor would just have put the link back, but software bots don't always have the ability to think logically. There is a message on your talk page with the opportunity to report the mistake by "Cluebot NG" (the automatic process). I've re-done your edits that were reverted, and I hope they will now not be removed again. Please continue your good work to correct any errors that you find, and let us know if you have any more problems. Best wishes from an island in the Atlantic to an island in the Pacific. Dbfirs 21:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Maximum size of cited article in source

Hi Folks, Please take a look at David Dunger. Hugely important research roughly 6000 times, but it has come with an enormous number of names as co-authors. Any ideas. Is there something you put, et. all at the end? Thanks. scope_creep (talk) 20:39, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

You can use the |display-authors=x parameter where x is a number which determines the number of authors to list before appending 'et al'. I have done that now. But on a personal note, even the source text is over bloated now and there's no harm in reducing them to say the first 10, as the article gets more content.–Ammarpad (talk) 21:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ammarpad, thanks, that's worked fine. scope_creep (talk) 05:42, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Getting back to editing

Hi,

I am a new member and I seem to have lost my way.

1. How do I get back to editing? I used to get prompts to start editing a new article and since I made a user page that doesn't happen anymore. 2. How do I verify my user page and see what information is relevant here? Can I see examples of what other's have on their user pages? 3. How do I respond to someone through talk? I clicked on her name but did not see a text box to add my message.

Thanks for your help. My best, Julie Kling — Preceding unsigned comment added by Julie Kling (talk • contribs) 22:27, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Julie Kling Welcome - here's a good tutorial on editing. Misplaced Pages:Tutorial/Editing. Cheers, TimTempleton 00:02, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Julie Kling: welocme back to Misplaced Pages. There is also a good tutorial on how to use User Talk pages at Misplaced Pages:Tutorial/Talk pages. You will probably have questions after reading these, so please come back and ask as often as you need. --Gronk Oz (talk) 01:34, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

October 23

Login / 2fa problem?

I'm having problems logging in.

Actually, I'm logged in to Misplaced Pages on my computer just fine. I'm trying to log in on the Misplaced Pages app on my phone. It asks for my username and password, which I provide, and then I click login. It then goes to another sign in page with username, password, and "Two-Factor Authentication Code". I *thought* that I would get a code from "Google Authenticator", but when I do that it says "failed".

Any ideas? SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 00:15, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I know this must be obvious, but have you ever set up two-factor authentication SatyrTN on your account? Lourdes 14:40, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks - yes, and I'm sure this is part of the problem. I have a new phone, and it seems Google Authenticator didn't transfer well. I had it set up on the old phone, but I'm not sure that it's set up on the new one. Is there a way to tell what apps are set up in Authenticator? It's not obvious in the app. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 16:47, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

SatyrTN, then you should set it up again on the new phone. Your new Google Authenticator client has to be validated. See meta:Help:Two-factor authentication and follow the instructions. You could possible first disable TFA then again enable TFA. That should work. Lourdes 00:16, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

That seems to have worked - thanks! For future reference, Special:OATH to disable two-factor authentication, then re-enable it. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:54, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Keep on Gosnell?

Gosnell: The Trial of America's Biggest Serial Killer is a recent movie about Kermit Gosnell, an abortion doctor who was later convicted of murder for killing infants after born alive. Obviously, such a movie is political. The page has sources from NBC News, CNN, The New York Times, Fortune, The Washington Times, The New York Post, Slate, a local NBC affiliate, The Washington Examiner, The Wall Street Journal, and The Seattle Times. Most of these are articles focusing on the movie so not just reliable sources but showing notability. However, it was nominated for deletion despite this. The reason given was that it has a low number of nationally recognized reviews, however, it seems more notable for politics than for film critics. Is this a case that meets the criteria for Misplaced Pages:Speedy keep? If so, can we implement a speedy keep? Thank you. >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemus • feci) 01:34, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Its deletion is being debated here. I see a number of "Keep" votes from editors who say "it's real" and appear unaware of Misplaced Pages's definition of notability. Maproom (talk) 09:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I Agree that not all Keep votes clearly understand notability. However, when you look at the sources mentioned by User:Timtempleton, User:DynaGirl, User:Cobraman202, and myself it is hard to argue it is not notable. I can't imagine something could have articles specifically on it in so many major sources and be considered non-notable. User:DynaGirl notes that it falls under WP:GNG more than WP:NFILM as it's coverage as a political movie is more than as a movie reviewed by critics. That's why User:Timtempleton argued for invoking snow relating to WP:NFP. I posted here originally as I reviewed such policies but was not certain of their application as I had not dealt with such a case before. >> M.P.Schneider,LC (parlemus • feci) 14:14, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

• Serial Number 54129 closed the nomination per WP:SNOW, which is fine, but erred in calling it a "speedy keep". Snows are not speedies. Tigraan 12:37, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Indeed, but as a reflection of the non-mutuality of their respective exclusivities, it merely suffices I'm afraid. ——SerialNumber54129 12:50, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Update article & retire/delete associated article

Can someone advise how I retire one article in favour of another? I believe that one of a pair of related articles can be amended to adequately reflect the subject area, making the companion article redundant. This would require the surviving article to assume the title of the redundant article, and for the redundant article to be deleted. First I am going to set out my proposals on the relevant talk pages, but if I obtain agreement, how would this actually be achieved in terms of management of the articles themselves? Clivemacd (talk) 11:22, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

• Most of what you need is at WP:MERGE. Black Kite (talk) 11:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

This may seem like a benign question, but does anyone know how I can add the country that I live in and there flag to my wiki bio?

Hello my name is Jad Assi I am relatively new to Misplaced Pages and saw that people are able to tell other community members the country that they currently live in on the wiki bio which is neat. I was hoping that someone could help me learn how to do that.

Thank you in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jadassi (talk • contribs) 16:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Jadassi: To tell others where you live add {{User lives in|your country}} to your user page --Danski454 (talk) 16:35, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Danski454: Thank you very much!

Michael Webb

moved from talk page -- zzuuzz 17:17, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Help us! Someone has posted false information about Michael Webb architect. The picture that appears in the search is NOT Michael Webb, also. Misplaced Pages won't let us edit it. They revert back to the false information. Do we need a lawyer? Why are you doing this to us. Nancy Wozniak and Michael Webb Nancywozniak (talk) 17:07, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Nancywozniak: Just a word of advice, please don't mention lawyers or legal action (see WP:NLT). Also, you can now edit this page if you wish. -- zzuuzz 17:17, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Nancywozniak: Unfortunately this page had to be edit-protected (only temporary) due to some serious vandalism - sorry for the inconvenience. To answer your question, the article Michael Webb (architect) has no images. The image you probably saw in a Google search result has no connection to Misplaced Pages (despite its confusing annotation). If you want to get this specific Google-related image changed, please use the "Feedback" button in the lower right corner of the Google search text to complain to Google directly. One more important point: as you seem to have a conflict of interest, please do not edit the article directly but request changes on the article's talkpage Talk:Michael Webb (architect). I have posted some additional links about this aspect on your user talkpage. Thank you for your consideration. GermanJoe (talk) 17:27, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

It's a dreadful article. It is now Misplaced Pages policy that biographical articles about living people must have independent verifiable references, but this is entirely unsourced except for one "fact" sourced to his own website. It's largely written by his wife, an obvious COI which has given us the present vanity page. Also lots of copyright violation in the now-revdeled history. I've removed the unsourced opinions and tagged the unsourced "facts", but perhaps this should be tagged (BLPPROD? WP:Notability? WP:G11?) and put out of its self-serving misery Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:15, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Diacritic

There's something wrong with the third paragraph of the Diacritic article, and it was wrong before I fixed a typo. Here's the code:

In other alphabetic systems, diacritical marks may perform other functions. Vowel pointing systems, namely the Arabic harakat ( ـِ ,ـُ ,ـَ, etc.) and the Hebrew niqqud ( ַ◌, ֶ◌, ִ◌, ֹ◌, ֻ◌, etc.) systems, indicate vowels that are not conveyed by the basic alphabet. The Indic virama ( ् etc.) and the Arabic sukūn ( ـْـ ) mark the absence of vowels. Cantillation marks indicate prosody. Other uses include the Early Cyrillic titlo stroke ( ◌҃ ) and the Hebrew gershayim ( ״ ), which, respectively, mark abbreviations or acronyms, and Greek diacritical marks, which showed that letters of the alphabet were being used as numerals. In the Hanyu Pinyin official romanization system for Chinese, diacritics are used to mark the tones of the syllables in which the marked vowels occur.

If you change the width of your screen, the word layout changes, and some of the text becomes right-to-left highlightable. On my screen at normal zoom, the second line begins with the last niqqud, a parenthesis, and "mark the absence of vowels." The third line begins with an Arabic character, a parenthesis, and ", which, respectively," The fourth line begins "letters of the alphabet were being used as numerals" and there is no left parenthesis. The fifth line consists of "vowels occur." If you click on "Other uses include..." and try to highlight text farther left, some words get highlighted and others don't. And some of the text reads like this: "mark the absence of vowels. Cantillation marks indicate prosody. systems, indicate vowels that are not conveyed by the basic alphabet...Greek diacritical marks, which showed that Other uses include the Early Cyrillic titlo stroke ( ◌҃ ) and the Hebrew gershayim ( letters of the alphabet I don't know how to fix it. Can someone help? 208.95.51.53 (talk) 15:47, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I looked over this a bit (expertise level low...) and the problem seems to be something with the {{as written}} template following the word "niqqud". When I eliminate that entire template, the preview comes out correct, but I haven't been able to figure out how to change the template around (rtl parameter in the lang template, removing the as written template, removing some of the characters, etc) to get it to settle in. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:34, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Referencing errors on Greece national rugby league team

Reference help requested. I have noticed that frequently, some people try to change the facts about the Greek Rugby League. After a split that took place in 2015, RLEF recognises a civil society as members and the Ministry of Culture and Sports recognises the Hellenic Federation of Modern Pentathlon / Rugby League Committee instead. See http://www.rugbyleague.gr/uploads/1/3/5/0/13503701/ministry_to_rlif_rlef.pdf I do not know how to protect the pages refering to the Greek Rugby League. Thanks, Tpantazidis (talk) 21:21, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tpantazidis: The page can only be protected by an Admin. and only if they are satisfied that it is necessary to prevent disruption to the encyclopedia, usually WP:Vandalism. A page will not be protected to maintain a preferred version. If you have changes you wish to see made and they are challenged (reverted) by other editors, please begin a discussion at the article talk page and support your content / changes with reliable sources. Please do not edit back and forth reverting changes as this is known as edit warring and can lead to the loss of editing privileges irrespective of the merits of the changes. Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 22:04, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Tpantazidis: Additionally, if you think the page meets the requirements for protection, you can request that it be added here. LittlePuppers (talk) 00:01, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

October 24

Informative (Welcome) Advice VS Provocative (Not-So-Welcome) Threats

I am receiving two types of complaints regarding my amendments to pages regarding the island of Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, the Greek Cypriot Administration of Southern Cyprus, and other related articles, which aim to provide neutrality and fact to information that is otherwise biased, misleading or incomplete, typically against the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.

Every time I make an amendment I also make sure to remain neutral while also referencing my amendments without applying any personal comments or opinions, but I am repeatedly finding my edits being revoked, followed by messages ranging from informative and welcome advice (thank you very much Mr. user, whoever you are) to baseless provocative threats (not so thank you Mr. same user), which state: "Please do not add or change content, as you did at Cyprus, without citing a reliable source. " and "... stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Misplaced Pages's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary...".

Why is this happening? What am I doing to warrant this happening? What is there to warrant the actions of the user in question? What can I do to prevent this from happening? What can Misplaced Pages do to prevent this from happening? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nargothronde (talk • contribs) 06:02, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

• Dr.K. has left warnings on your talk page. He could have probably invited you to the talk pages of the two articles in question and initiated discussions rather than leave those warnings. Anyway, as it stands now, the best step forward is to read the dispute resolution procedure and follow that. For a start, you may open up new talk page discussions, each at Talk:Hymn to Liberty and Talk:Cyprus and ask why are your additions not acceptable to other editors. Misplaced Pages works on consensus and you should basically follow that once the talk page discussions are initiated. Come back here for any assistance, Lourdes 09:43, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

• @Lourdes: While I appreciate the measured tone of your response, this account is an SPA bent on pushing a strong pro-TRNC POV across many articles related to the Cyprus conflict. The account's edits are very similar to those of past blocked socks who have been blocked indefinitely. The POV/propaganda nature of this SPA account's edits is self-evident and it is a waste of time discussing this propaganda with yet another SPA. Please read this account's edits and if you can find something of value, or that has escaped me, please let me know so that I can correct my mistake. Dr. K. 13:24, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

• ...and includes turning something as innocent as halloumi into an ethno-political weapon against all things Greek. ——SerialNumber54129 13:32, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

I can feel the frustration of @Nargothronde: as I have experienced the same welcome in a specific article. As for Nargothronde's contributions, some of them were rightfully reverted but some not. We should be careful not to create a hostile environment. I do not feel your contributions had a strong TRNC POV, and I suggest we all Assume Good Faith. Having a POV should not be a reason for creating a hostile environment towards a user. A piece of advice to Nargothronde: use high-quality sources. Whenever in doubt, ask in the Talk Page. I am sure many of your contributions will improve many Cyprus-related articles. Cinadon36 (talk)

Having a POV should not be a reason for creating a hostile environment towards a user. Please do not misrepresent facts. This is not the case here. This editor was informed in a nice way in May 2012 to use reliable sources. He was again informed in a very nice way about the same problem in September 2018. Then he came back in October 2018, repeating the same behaviour for which he was warned in a nice way before. This is why we have escalating warnings. They are not "hostile" warnings. They are meant to emphasise previous, milder warnings, when the milder warnings were ignored. This is about POV that will not stop, despite earlier warnings. Dr. K. 14:53, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

I am not misrepresenting anything. I have seen some of his contributions that were reverted due to claims of pov-pushing. (ie in Halloumi and ). Cinadon36 (talk) 16:52, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

The links you provided show an unsourced diatribe and opinion which was rightfully reverted. I stand by my assessment that it was POV-pushing. But you are missing the point. Calling POV-pushing POV-pushing is not a threat. It is WP:SPADE. Dr. K. 17:08, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

So, you now claim that it was not a suitable source? Anyway, I stand by my assessment as well, and thanks for the spade essay. Cinadon36 (talk) 18:26, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

This has nothing to do with the supplied source. The OR commentary:

This exacerbates the view that the application was not being regarded as a joint national product important to both communities; it belongs to the entire Cypriot community – all of Cyprus; this is where it was created; they make the real hellim; but to the North this is not what the South was pushing for, it was argued, they were not upholding their duty as Cypriots in Cyprus to protect this product.

was not part of the source. It was a POV interpretation of some comments a Turkish Cypriot made, and it was also closely paraphrased. Also the edit claim an aim that was not met. is a POV interpretation of the source. The source states: Many in the north now claim that aim has not been met.. The source doesn't say that the "claim was not met". Please don't defend POV, misleading edits that do not correspond to the sources. Dr. K. 18:53, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Involved in a Dispute with a User Who Is Censoring An Article

— Preceding unsigned comment added by VaniNY (talk • contribs) 11:00, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

This is stale old news of fraudulent editing and false presentation; no amount of propagandizing on your part is going to change that, or to induce Misplaced Pages to pretend that these old fakes are significant (except for the brief period before they were rebutted). Your persistent failure to recognize that is making it hard for you to do whatever useful things you would like to do here. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:16, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

@VaniNY: This is a content dispute. When consensus fails on the talk page as in this case, you should then follow the process at WP:DISPUTE. A long rant on the help desk is not part of that process, and your approach severely weakens your position. It is especially important to maintain civility in a case like this, even (or especially) when others fail to do so. If nothing else, third parties tend to side with the more civil editor, other things being equal. -Arch dude (talk) 15:22, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

How to find deleted posts

Hello Please could you tell me how to find a deleted post — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.187.137.20 (talk) 12:52, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Deleted pages can only be viewed by site administrators. If you can specify exactly which deleted page you wish to view, then it may be possible to have an administrator determine whether it would be appropriate to show it to you. Deli nk (talk) 15:10, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

If by "post" you mean a section on a talk page, help desk, reference desk, or similar, many pages of these types have archives, with a link at the top to the archives. These pages also have page history, so you can retrieve earlier versions that contain the "post". -Arch dude (talk) 15:28, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

External link in |<param>= error=_error-October_24-2018-10-24T14:15:00.000Z">

Hi there,

I'm editing a page about an organization called Surel's Place. When I insert new citations that refer to the Surel's Place website, I get this error. I clicked on the help button, but as a waaaay end user using the visual editor, I still don't get how to fix it.

Any help appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by RebaKela (talk • contribs) 14:15, 24 October 2018 (UTC)=_error"> =_error">

Hello, RebaKela. You haven't made any edits to Surel's Place. Presumably you tried to, got the error, and abandoned the attempt; but it's hard to help you without seeing exactly what you were trying to add and what the message was. It sounds as if you are trying to give the URL as the wrong parameter to the citation template, but that is only a guess. Incidentally, before citing the subject of the article's website, please read PRIMARY: you can cite information to non-independent sources only in limited cases. --ColinFine (talk) 16:12, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Founding fathers entry

I don’t believe snoop dogg was a founding father. Would be nice if you could protect against these entries

Founding Fathers of the United States was vandalized as you describe, but that vandalism was removed within minutes. These things happen in an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. If the problem persists, a request can be made at WP:RFPP to have the page protected from anonymous edits. Deli nk (talk) 15:08, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Identity Theft Support from Misplaced Pages

Please run a search on Michael Webb Architect. A Misplaced Pages link to Michael Webb comes up with Michael Webb from Archigram. The picture is another Michael Webb who write architectural review books. He's posing as an Archigrammer and selling his books using Michael Webb's, Archigram, identity, and career prestige. I've been trying to edit Michael Webb's Misplaced Pages, but I'm being told I'm threatening, I can't copyright my own material, and a family member cannot edit or create a page. How do I get this blatant identity theft removed? The current bio is copied from Cooper Union's website and Cooper did not give anyone permission to post that information on Misplaced Pages without their knowledge or the real Michael Webb's knowledge. The authentic Michael Webb doesn't want a false Misplaced Pages page. Can you help us, please?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nancywozniak (talk • contribs) 16:35, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Please read what you were told in response to your question yesterday at #Michael Webb above. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:49, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

@Nancywozniak: You have already been told at #Michael Webb that the Misplaced Pages article Michael Webb (architect) has no images. You can click the link and view the article to check it. You haven't said where you search when you see the picture but like GermanJoe, I guess it is a Google search for Michael Webb and not a Misplaced Pages search. It is Google which places images on Google searches and controls content at google.com and other domains owned by Google. It is not Misplaced Pages and it is not the subject of the image. Misplaced Pages controls content at wikipedia.org. Here is a stock answer:

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Misplaced Pages" to indicate that particular text was copied from Misplaced Pages. An image and other text before or after the Misplaced Pages excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Misplaced Pages. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:50, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Edit Summary box not accessable

I have edited a few pages today, and in each case NO Edit Summary box has been available for me to create an edit summary. In one or two cases, an Edit Summary box has appeared very briefly, then disappeared. When I've gone ahead and clicked Publish changes and then been prompted to leave an edit summary, again no Edit Summary box has been available. I will be editing more pages today (during the Canadian history edit-a-thon) and I'd like to leave summaries, including for the pages already edited.

Two questions:

How can I make the Edit Summary box appear?
How can I go back to edited pages and leave a summary?

Man1t0ba (talk) 17:03, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Man1t0ba. I've formatted your header so that it appears as a header.

I'm afraid I don't know the answer to the first one - it sounds like a bug, but I've never seen it. In answer to the second point: there is no way of changing an edit summary after it is committed; but what you can do is make a dummy edit and leave a summary then. (In your case, this might still hit the same problem as you are already having). --ColinFine (talk) 17:10, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Subject/headline

is there an activity limit on my sandbox? kinda scared right now

i meant it say to edit it instead of the article.

thanks

-By SlimTempet — Preceding unsigned comment added by SlimTempet (talk • contribs) 18:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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@SlimTempet: welcome to the Teahouse. Firstly, it will be helpful if you "sign" your entries here (or on any Talk page) by putting four tildes ("~~~~") at the end. This will automatically fill in your user name and the timestamp. About your Sandbox - it is pretty much free for you to use however you like. You don't have to use it at all, or you can experiment with layouts before going live. You have your own personal sandbox at User:SlimTempet/sandbox, or there is a shared sandbox page at Misplaced Pages:Sandbox. There are some basic constraints, such as they must not be used for malicious purposes, and policies such as no personal attacks, civility, and copyrights still apply - see the details at Misplaced Pages:About the Sandbox.--Gronk Oz (talk) 18:25, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Table formatting problem

How come the columns of the two horizontal table sections here are displayed in such a staggered way?--Neufund (talk) 18:46, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

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