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Esteban Andrada

 Done - please can you update? GiantSnowman 06:56, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

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Ismael Álvarez Lohoba

Isma also played for Equatorial Guinea against Benin. I think the articles you created (Federico Obama, Saúl Coco and Jordan Gutiérrez) are not ready to be a part of Misplaced Pages. That's because the match they played was removed from the FIFA records (reason: referee from Equatorial Guinea instead of a third country) and then it is like if it never would happen.--MonFrontieres (talk) 18:21, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

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Mile Svilar

You have proposed this article for deletion. Tomorrow he will make his first appearance in the Champion League and will be the youngest goalkeeper ever in the Champions League. Please reconsider your proposal. Sonuwe (talk) 10:54, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

List of association football families

Thanks a lot for all your contributions to the list! I also really appreciate the edit summaries with your additions.

Apart from thanking you, I also wanted to make sure that you're aware that the second (or further) player doesn't have to be a youth international minimum - it can also be a player playing professionally for a club (meaning=in a fully-pro league) who hasn't been capped internationally at any level.

Furthermore, if you'd like to help improve the list beyond additions, it could use some maintenance of going through the listings and removing any families where neither of the people is an international or an important person in the game. Also all listing need to be referenced, so if you see any unreferenced listings, they should be removed or have a reference added. I was going through it in alphabetical order by country for a while.. think I got up to Liberia.

Once more thank you! :) --SuperJew (talk) 21:57, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for heads up! I'll make sure to sift through the list here and there, and try and clean it up. I appreciate all the positive feedback! You're doing a great job maintaining the page.--Ortizesp (talk) 22:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Alessio Miceli

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March 2018

Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Misplaced Pages about living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to Isaac Vassell. The url you gave in reference to Mr Vassell's descent is dead, and has been so for several years. An archive copy exists, which shows that not only is the cited article about Darius Vassell, not Isaac, it doesn't even mention Darius being of Jamaican descent. Please make more of an effort to take sourcing of BLPs seriously. Struway2 (talk) 12:37, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

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∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 21:56, 3 April 2018 (UTC) Scratch that, seeing the wikiproject tags, it's pretty clear that you know what you're doing and probably already know that! ∰Bellezzasolo✡ Discuss 21:59, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Hey, no problem! I appreciate the feedback, its just hard finding stuff for Turkish footballers from the 70s haha. All the best! --Ortizesp (talk) 22:09, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Assessment for non-article pages

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Berke Özer

Hello. I trust this finds you well. I'm sad to see that you proposed article of Berke Özer for deletion, advocating he didn't/doesn't play in a full professional league. This is not true. TFF 1. League is a fully professional league and it's status is defined and acknowledged by TFF clearly. Please see: , . Profile of Özer at official TFF page displays clearly that he turned professional 18 August 2016. Please see: (page in English).

I kindly request you to revert this mistake and remove that tag. Thank you.

Hello, I am only nominating the page for discussion because the TFF First League is not on the list of professional leagues as per WP:FPL. I don't have any issues if we can prove that it's fully professional, and add them to the list. --Ortizesp (talk) 02:13, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

José Luis Rodríguez

Can you provide a source that says he began in the first team in 2015? Many players are listed in the first team squad but may not make an appearance during the season, we should not be making any assumptions. S.A. Julio (talk) 03:19, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Hakan Arslan (footballer, born 1989)

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Naomi Osaka

We have an ongoing problem with IPs adding ethnicity to the lead. What do you suggest we do about this? Vivexdino (talk) 17:09, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Actually it's EC protected for now. Fyunck(click) (talk) 05:02, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

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Roberto Massimo

Roberto Massimo is a German citizen who plays for German national youth teams. Please don't remove or change this information without any source. --Yoda1893 (talk) 19:39, 9 October 2018 (UTC)

He just got capped by the Germany U19s. Prior to that, he woulve been Ghanaian through birthplace. I added ref for the NT now, so I won't change his nationality unless he's otherwise capped.--Ortizesp (talk) 21:02, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Ousmane Sidibé (footballer, born 1990)

Just a quick note on this page. I declined your speedy deletion request because a7 says that an article must have a claim of importance, not that it meet a specific notability standard. For articles not showing notability, PROD or AfD are the way to go.----Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:04, 14 October 2018 (UTC)

Urko Pardo

Hello there,

thank you for your hard work in this (and other players) article. However, two things: 1 - you were pretty much correct in every category you added, but I feel we should not remove the SPANISH FOOTBALLERS one as he qualifies for that per descent (like Thomas Christiansen, for example; OK, Mr. Christiansen has the plus of having represented the Spanish national team while Mr. Pardo did not, that is why Christiansen gets the SPANISH INTERNATIONAL FOOTBALLERS as "extra"); 2 - the current order of categories is less scramble in my view, with first the personal stuff, then the leagues/clubs in order, international stuff and expatriate stuff last - then, the managerial cats if the subject has any.

Happy editing/week, from Portugal --Quite A Character (talk) 09:55, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

• Similar one (and you have wrongly done this in many other players): Diogo Costa, not a Swiss footballer as he NEVER played football in that country, his youth career (and now the senior, of course) was entirely spent in Portugal. Please don't do it again.

Not hoping for any sort of reply, but i come to you to help out and my conscience is clear. Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 21:57, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Hey, Diogo was born in Switzerland and lived there till 7. He's Swiss born and partly-raised, and is eligible for the Swiss NT. That's why I add the category, he's a "Swiss" but mostly Portuguese footballer. Urko on the other hand wasn't born in Spain, so I don't know if we can assume he has a Spanish passport unless he goes out of his way to get one. We can put Belgian (born and raised), and Cypriot (confirmed through sources, and national player). Let me know what you think.--Ortizesp (talk) 23:24, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, then. Yes, i totally understand what you mean, but we'll only add the "Swiss footballers" category to Mr. Costa's article if/when he makes debut for country. Until then, he has ZERO to do with that nation in terms of football, all of his career in the sport is associated to Portugal.

Have a nice week, again thank you for replying --Quite A Character (talk) 23:01, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

• Reverted another! David Simão, first club ever (proven, no mention - sourced or not - to previous ones) was Grupo Instrução Musical Desportivo Abóboda at the age of EIGHT already in Portugal. He did not play football in France, he's NOT a French footballer.

Difficult to grasp I see, but we'll get there... Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 11:48, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

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Álvaro Morata

Hello there,

you got it completely wrong while changing his youth years, your reference reads, at one point, "Este martes, durante su presentación, el Atlético proyectó un vídeo con varias imágenes del paso de Morata por el club, desde su carné de abonado en la temporada 1997-1998 a su etapa en la cantera, pasando por una foto junto a Fernando Torres.", which means "This Tuesday, during his presentation, Atlético showed a video with footage of Morata's spell at the club, from his membership card in the 1997-98 season to his youth system stint, interspersed with a photo with Fernando Torres."

I have thus reinstated the correct version, but kept your source nonetheless. Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 17:21, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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Fc Nantes

I saw you edit a lot of things for the team! I am no good at editing but you can make the job done! For many years the fc nantes logo on the wkipedia.com is totally wrong!!! Less stripes than the real one (check official site or wikipedia.fr) Except the fact thas it is wrong some people even make money through internet i guess cause i have seen a lot of t-shirts,mugs,wallets,wall crests etch being printed with the wrong logo and are being sold . Thank you in advance. Ianvou (talk) 19:03, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

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Rui Silva

Hello and thank you for creating Rui Silva. Please can you help us to fix the resulting mis-directed links? Most of them have been done but there are a few competitions where both Rui Silva (athlete) and Rui Pedro Silva competed, and it's unclear who ran in which event. Thanks, Certes (talk) 12:08, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Use of squad number 33 in French Professional squads

Hi - just wanted to leave you a note regarding creation of squad list entries for players in French professional teams (Ligue 1, Ligue 2 and the four professional teams in Championnat National) such as you did at Julien Boyer at AS Béziers (2007). The squad number 33 has a special meaning in French professional football. It is not permanently assigned to one player, instead being used for last minute replacements of an otherwise unregistered player from the youth/reserve team. Some, but not all, clubs extend this to squad numbers 34 and 35 also. Many players over the season, from one week to the next, could wear the 33 shirt, and you will not find them included in the sourced squad list. Therefore, it is not appropriate to include a player with a squad number 33 in the squad list on an article.

The rules for this can be found in French Professional Football League (LFP) Competitions Regulations, part 1, title 4, chapter 2, article 576: "All teams must have an unattributed jersey numbered 33 reserved for last minute replacements." Thanks, Gricehead (talk) 09:01, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Please use RM

Please, you moves were controversial by inventing new name for the person. Please start RM for your system of nickname + surname. Matthew hk (talk) 15:12, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

And please start updating DEFAULTSORT and navigation templates after you rename articles. SLBedit (talk) 23:26, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I have reverted another of your moves (involving Joel Silva (footballer, born 1989)) - if you continue to make poor page moves without using RM then I will seek a topic ban to prevent you from doing so. Notifying interested users - @Matthew hk, SLBedit, and Primefac: GiantSnowman 08:56, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Noted! I'll start using RM when necessary, sorry for that. I usually try to confer external links before moving a page, but I'll be more careful. Cheers!--Ortizesp (talk) 16:23, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Your recent moved are better but still potentially controversial and could be challenged. I'd urge you to use WP:RM, really. GiantSnowman 18:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I've noticed you're not fixing links to disambig pages when you move pages (see this) - so I'll make it crystal clear. If you continue to move pages without using RM I will seek a formal topic ban at ANI. GiantSnowman 20:04, 31 March 2019 (UTC)

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@Primefac: Which venue should i seek to remove the page mover rights of Ortizesp ? See also, Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Football#Jorginho and all the thread in this user talk page, since the user keep on making bold move that often contested by other wiki editors, it is not appropriate for the user to hold such rights. If he want to self-revert, he can always post such request in Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Technical requests. Matthew hk (talk) 14:52, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I'm still learning the ropes, and feel better equipped to move pages. A lot of the Portuguese pages completely neglect WP:COMMONNAME, and in doing mass movements there are bound to be a couple here and there that slip through the cracks. I think the moves I'm making almost always are justified, and don't require WP:RM, and one of the recommendations on moving pages are to be bold. I will make sure to be more careful with larger pages, and if you have any advice I am more than willing to listen. Let me know if you have questions. Cheers!--Ortizesp (talk) 15:54, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict)  Done. I was on the fence when granting this right because of the issues higher up the page (and even an assurance that RM would be used for controversial moves). In looking at the move log, there are a lot of (what appear to be) valid moves. However, I can see the concerns and frustrations, and when multiple editors are requesting that an editor use the RM process then it should be used. Mistakes will happen, but it does seem clear that the permission is not appropriate at this point in time. Revoking specifically under the "sufficient care when moving pages" clause of WP:PMRR. Ortizesp, if you wish to contest this removal you should bring it up at WP:AN.

As an addendum, please note that the removal of this right will not prohibit the ability to move pages, just to "suppress redirect". Caution should still be taken and the RM process should still be used for potentially controversial moves. Primefac (talk) 16:05, 26 March 2019 (UTC) PS. As an additional addendum, Matthew hk, the proper venue is WP:ANI, but pinging the granting admin is the best first thing to do. Primefac (talk) 16:09, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Professional debut

Hi, I note you have created a lot of articles, mainly for young players, containing the text "X made his professional debut against Y on DATE". I note also that in a number of these articles there is no source that these players have signed professional contracts. They are making their debut at the professional level, but not as a professional, until they sign a contract. I would request that you revisit the articles you have created and either reword as "X made his debut at the professional level against Y" or provide a source for a professional contract being signed prior to the debut. Thanks, Gricehead (talk) 16:46, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Mano (footballers)

Hello. Please reconsider your moves of Mano (Portuguese footballer) and Mano (Mozambican footballer) to birthyear disambiguators, citing "convention" in your edit summary. The relevant convention Misplaced Pages:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer) actually recommends using the most conclusive of nationality or birthyear. The birthyears are 3 years apart, i.e. effectively indistinguishable for the reader wanting to find one of these players. But one is a Mozambican with 30+ caps for his country who never played in Portugal, the other is a Portuguese under-age international who rarely played outside it. I'd suggest that nationality is rather more conclusive than birthyear in this particular case. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 19:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

You're right, I undid the moves. Sorry!--Ortizesp (talk) 20:25, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. Struway2 (talk) 00:09, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

David Amaral

Hi, I've reverted your move. If there are only two persons with this name, a disambiguation page is not needed and a simple notice at the top of each article referring to the other one is sufficient. Also, if a disambiguation page is necessary (when there are 3 or more people with a certain name), you need to put a note at the top of each page referring to that disambiguation page. See WP:ONEOTHER. Thanks and happy editing! --Randykitty (talk) 09:07, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

Alan Marcel

Hello! I noticed you moved the Alan Marcel article from Alan Marcel Picazzo, I disagree with the move. The WP:COMMONNAME is Alan Marcel Picazzo, per all five of the article's non-statistical sources. A quick Google search supports this too. R96Skinner (talk) 01:11, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Done, you're right.--Ortizesp (talk) 02:46, 9 May 2019 (UTC)--Ortizesp (talk) 02:46, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Antonio Díaz Gil

I've reverted this move - you clearly don't get it. I'll be raising your conduct at WP:ANI. GiantSnowman 07:27, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

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Page moves and WP:MCSTJR

Please read the last item of WP:MCSTJR: Some people are known primarily by their first name only. When it is not possible to set the first name alone as the article title, as with many articles in Category:Brazilian footballers, you should sort with the first name first to make the article easier to find in the categories. For example, Leonardo Araújo is commonly known as Leonardo, and should be sorted as {{DEFAULTSORT:Leonardo Araujo}}. You are changing articles without any backup history or any research just because you think so.

Besides, your page moves are often controversial and an ANI already brought this up. Why don't you stop being way too much WP:BOLD and instead use a WP:RM to see if other people agree with your moves? MYS77 14:57, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Will do, thanks!--Ortizesp (talk) 15:03, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ortizesp: "Will do" and you are still moving page without any single compromise... @GiantSnowman, can you take a look at this, since you were the last one who warned him a few days back? MYS77 21:21, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@MYS77: I raised the issue here - Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1010#Page move topic ban for Ortizesp but it was archived with no action. Perhaps you could start a new ANI discussion linking to the old one? GiantSnowman 13:50, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

You are still doing this - Rubén García Rey. @MYS77: I am going to re-raise at ANI. GiantSnowman 07:28, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

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Fidel Chaves de la Torre

Another move who is controversial enough to be reverted. Why, for God's sake, don't you learn how to use WP:RM instead of doing controversial moves? A lot, man, a lot of users already raised questions about your moves and you're still going for it? It seems to me that you want to receive a topic ban, or worse, it seems like you want to be blocked!

By the way, related to the article on the headline: he's not known as Fidel Chaves, he was never known by this during his entire career. Check his move to Elche yesterday: Las Palmas' official web announced his departure as "Fidel leaves Las Palmas", and Elche's official web announced his signing as "Fidel joins Elche". Fidel. Not Fidel Chaves.

Cheers, MYS77 15:00, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

No offense, but can't you see the hypocrisy in your post? If his common name is Fidel then why did you make the page Fidel Chaves de la Torre. A lot of the page moves I make are with your pages because you don't follow WP:COMMONNAME. And I understand that I get some of these wrong, but for every wrong there's 20 that are right. I think it's awesome you make so many pages, but I think it's confusing to list the formal written names of players everytime you make a new page. And I promise I will use WP:RM, but for 95% of the pages I move it's not required, eg Diego García (footballer, born 1997).--Ortizesp (talk) 23:04, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

One move does not justify the other one. I'm not the one having an ANI about my behaviour and my lack of understanding over the guidelines. Get your facts straight, stop doing controversial moves, stop making promises you can't keep, and learn to use WP:RM in the vast majority of your edits. Then people will stop messaging you about your mistakes. Cheers, MYS77 01:59, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Topic Ban (page move ban)

Ortizesp, this is to let you know that according to consensus at ANI you are Topic Banned from moving pages until 23 August 2019 (two months). A breach of this ban will incur an immediate block, without warning, of a duration at administrator's discretion. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:59, 23 June 2019 (UTC)

Your topic ban covers all undiscussed moves; therefore, using WP:RM/TR is not permitted.​​​​ — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:13, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Noted, I wasn't aware..--Ortizesp (talk) 02:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

@JJMC89, Kudpung, Anthony Appleyard, and DannyS712: please note edits like this and this which both came after the topic ban, in which Ortizesp attempts to rename the articles without moving the pages... GiantSnowman 07:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

GiantSnowman, while this would likely fail the spirit of the topic ban, it's specifically for moving pages. If "renaming" like this becomes/stays an issue, I'm sure a quick amendment could be made. For the record, though, this sort of dubious behaviour is a great way to get an WP:IDHT block. Primefac (talk) 13:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Oh yes, I'm aware this is not in violation of the topic ban - but just shows the attitude of the editor. If they keep it up I'll be re-raising at ANI. GiantSnowman 13:52, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

• I have reverted some of his footballer moves which I made by obeying Requested moves/Technical requests#Uncontroversial technical requests. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 14:40, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Help with a squad template

Hi there. :-) Could you give me a hand with Template:FC Chambly squad? I see you're quite prolific when it comes to creating new squad templates (and player pages). I'm having issues with figuring out which colours to use. Also, should https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Category:FC_Chambly_templates be created? Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 08:18, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Hey, looks good! I created , as you suggested. I'm having trouble with the colors as well, but as it stands should be fine - you did a fine job. Thanks for reaching out!--Ortizesp (talk) 14:26, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Happy editing, Robby.is.on (talk) 14:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

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Move requests

I removed the following requests from Misplaced Pages:Requested moves/Technical requests because they are moves that you can do yourself:

Technical requests is only for moves you cannot complete yourself for technical reasons. If you wish to have discussion or vetting of the moves, you can do a move request instead. I would also recommend posting at WP:WikiProject Football. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 14:24, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

Ortizesp, you are subject to a page move topic ban. With this edit I suggest you have breached the topic ban (certainly the spirit if not the letter) as you sought to move a number of pages without community discussion. What do you have to save for yourself? Notifying @Anthony Appleyard: who decided that the request for Helton Samo Cunha was a good one and moved it (now reverted), and also notifying @Ahecht:. GiantSnowman 14:24, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Oh, I see the topic ban expired. I'll seek it to be made indefinite. GiantSnowman 14:32, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

I am using WP:ANI *correction WP:RM*as you recommended, and am still being chastised for it. I think the these are all perfectly valid move requests, and am completely open to having community discussion over these. Is there something I am doing wrong, as I am completely confused how you would like me to go about this.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:22, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

No, you are not using ANI for page moves (at least I hope now). If you don't know how to follow Misplaced Pages:Requested moves#Requesting a single page move after all this time then we need a CIR block. GiantSnowman 15:30, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

I meant WP:RM, sorry. I've been using WP:RM as you recommended, it wasn't made clear to me that I specifically had to go to Misplaced Pages:Requested moves#Requesting a single page move for each and every page move. Previous requests I've made were moved by users patrolling the page.--Ortizesp (talk) 17:15, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

ANI discussion

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• FC Chambly templates