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The article is identified as being about raids in October to December 1355. A third of the blurb is about events in 1356, and so fall outside the scope of the article, except as aftermath. The aftermath is about 10% of the article, so this is not representative of the article or informative about the 'chevauchee' in question. Kevin McE (talk) 01:24, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Counting words and calculating percentages like this seems excessively pedantic, and the blurb is both accurate and summarizes information in the article. I find nothing wrong with it. --Jayron32 13:49, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Per Jayron. The blurb is not a reformed lead, its role is wholly to draw the reader in. ——SN54129 14:06, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Tomorrow's FA

As mentioned in the blurb's talk page more than 2 weeks ago, there is nothing in the body of the article that refers to the prioress's parlour. I thought Misplaced Pages was meant to avoid euphemisms such as 'entertained'. That is likely to be read as if they were running something tantamount to a brothel, whereas in fact the prioress and the father of her child are described as living in a stable committed relationship. Kevin McE (talk) 01:19, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

The article is clear that there were 4 nuns who absconded: "many" suggests something much more dramatic. Kevin McE (talk) 01:19, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

The parlour is mentioned twice. Please try and avoid any behaviour that may give the impression of trolling. Many thakns. ——SN54129 14:08, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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• "After weeks of protests over alleged electoral fraud, Bolivian president Evo Morales and other high-ranking politicians are forced to resign, and opposition senator Jeanine Áñez becomes interim president."

from wikipedia's own entry for 'coup':

A coup d'état (/ˌkuː deɪˈtɑː/ (About this soundlisten); French: ), also known by its German name putsch (/pʊtʃ/), or simply as a coup, is the overthrow of an existing government by non-democratic means; typically, it is an illegal, unconstitutional seizure of power by a dictator, the military, or a political faction.

Seeing as the military in Bolivia moved in and forced Evo Morales to resign and a political opponent self-proclaimed herself president, I think it's appropriate to rephrase the above headline with the following:

"After weeks of protests over alleged electoral fraud, a coup d'état forces Bolivian president Evo Morales to resign, while opposition senator Jeanine Áñez is self-proclaimed interim president." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandawgg (talk • contribs)

Let's wait for the pertinent move discussion to finish first before changing the ITN entry, although I suspect that it may no longer be on the Main Page by that time. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 06:41, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Title aside, the current version of the article doesn't even give the impression that the majority view it as a coup.—Bagumba (talk) 13:56, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

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• ... that both Rye railway station (pictured) and its signal box are Grade II listed?

There have been concerns raised at WT:DYK that this hook is not sufficiently interesting to a broad audience. Suggesting that the hook be pulled/moved to another queue or prep while discussion is ongoing. Narutolovehinata5 13:45, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Naruto, four people said the hook was fine at WT:DYK and I'm a fifth. That's opposed to you and another user who only partly supported your view, and who proposed an alt hook that got no support. "Grade II listed" is now linked so anybody who doesn't know what it means only has to click on the link. We've had many similar hooks in the past and nobody has complained, so with respect I think it's time you dropped this. Gatoclass (talk) 17:17, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Make that six. A signal box listed as historic structure is interesting to me. Sure it is not surprising that a railway station is listed, but a signal box, that is certainly an interesting factoid. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 19:13, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Noted. I apologize for the inconvenience that this has caused everyone, and while I still disagree that it's that interesting of a hook, there appears to be consensus for it now and I will respect that. Narutolovehinata5 20:59, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

... make it seven, cute hook --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:25, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Once a hook of mine was criticised as being "isn't serious enough" and "kinda clickbaity".. Thincat (talk) 09:44, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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Suggest following correction to avoid sudden use of plural verb and repetition: "It is often seen perched along roadside trees and wires and commonly in open grassland and scrub forest habitats." Jmar67 (talk) 10:57, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Please hyphenate "near-passerine" in the first sentence, because it is used adjectively. The Near passerine article was inconsistent about hyphenation but I have just tidied that up (no hyphen unless used as an adjective). Jmchutchinson (talk) 12:41, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Jmchutchinson, the Indian roller article doesn't hyphenate it that way? --valereee (talk) 12:46, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

According to the article near passerine, coraciiformes are not, and never have been, considered to be "near passerines", but by what criterion is this species then being described as a near-passerine? Does a hyphen indicate "not a passerine, nor near enough to being a passerine that it is a near passerine, but nevertheless closer to being a passerine than some other things that are not passerines, or near passerines, or even near-passerines". Drop the unsourced and unscientific description. Kevin McE (talk) 13:08, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

The "RSPB Birds of Britain and Europe" includes rollers in "near passerines", so it is not groundless to say that they have been allocated to that category: maybe Misplaced Pages's rather weak article on Near passerines should not be considered authoritative in that respect. Popular terms can sometimes be useful even if they conflict with phylogeny (the examples of "vultures" or "birds of prey" come to mind), but I tend to agree that "near passerine" is a sufficiently wooly and unfamiliar categorisation that it would be best left out. My point about the hyphen was just a grammatical one; I don't fully understand your response about that, but probably that is now by the by. Jmchutchinson (talk) 14:02, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Two descriptions of the range of the bird seems like overkill. I acknowledge that the second pertains to the subspecies illustrated, but that is so close to the range of the whole species, particularly in the terms used here, that it is not a useful distinction. Kevin McE (talk) 13:08, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

"Often seen on wires, this bird is perching on ..." While the species might often perch on wires, we cannot know what the habits of this particular bird are. (and the propensity to perch on wires has already been mentioned) Kevin McE (talk) 13:08, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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