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Khulnaiya

@Batternut Hi, the Khulnaiya words were collected from a native speaker of Khulnaiya. Sagir Ahmed Msa (talk) 09:23, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

The article discusses the distinct languages of the Bengali–Assamese family. Bengali has many dialects, as do the others. It just is not feasible to put all the dialects in the comparison table. Besides, there is very little evidence of the notability of Khulnaiya, and your comment above rather suggests that the addition was original research, which is not allowed. Batternut (talk) 10:10, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

The comparison table compares the languages which makes classifying (according to linguistics, not ethnicity or socio-politics) and studying languages easier for linguists. Sagir Ahmed Msa (talk) 14:20, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

The place to write educational texts is Wikibooks. Batternut (talk) 17:13, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Rohingya

@Dlohcierekim:, @Anatoliatheo:, @Raymond3023: Why did you remove the sourced Rohingya words?

@Dlohcierekim:, @Anatoliatheo:, @Raymond3023: No answer???

Script

According to all the sources added here, the languages use Bengali script and not Eastern Nagari. So please don't revert to push this unsourced POV. Za-ari-masen (talk) 12:34, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Script

The Assamese script is used in the Hajong language. The Assamese ৰ /ɹɔ/ and ৱ /vo/ are used in this language. And Koch Rajbanshi also uses these. @Chaipau:, any suggestions in this matter? Axomiya deka (talk) 00:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

The inline Ethnologue citation says Bengali and Latin script. So it should be that way. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:43, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

This is Hajong language, but this is not Bengali script.

Axomiya deka (talk) 00:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

The source says "Bengali script" for all languages here so we should follow that. Anyway it redirects to Bengali-Assamese script which is used by all of these languages. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:46, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

The script is Eastern Nagari, but neither Bengali nor Assamese alphabet. The example is ৰৗ. The consonant is not found in Bengali alphabet and the vowel is not found in Assamese alphabet. Chaipau (talk) 06:43, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Script names

@Za-ari-masen: the name of the script is Bengali-Assamese script in Misplaced Pages and the alphabets are different. Chaipau (talk) 10:05, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

The name of the script in[REDACTED] has been changed if that's the only reason you have. Please follow the sources and don't edit war. Za-ari-masen (talk) 23:13, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

@Za-ari-masen:, please do not keep claiming Alphabets and Scripts are same. You are linking the scripts to alphabets. Furthermore, the Assamese alphabet is not at all the Bengali alphabet. This is adequately documented both in "Origin of Bengali Script" and the "Evolution of Assamese Script". So please desist from these false claims. Chaipau (talk) 23:27, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Please follow the sources. All the sources clearly indicate that these languages use Bengali script. Don't use the title of a[REDACTED] article as a justification to push your POV. Za-ari-masen (talk) 21:33, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

The name of the script has been discussed and resolved Talk:Bengali–Assamese_script/Archive_1#Requested_move_13_February_2019. Chaipau (talk) 08:24, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Chaipau, you just did exactly the thing I asked you to not to. Za-ari-masen (talk) 19:46, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

Za-ari-masen please resolve this issue in the talk page of Bengali-Assamese script. This page is just following the convention set there. Chaipau (talk) 07:06, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Title of a[REDACTED] article (which has been tagged with numerous issues) cannot be a justification to change the content. The sources say these languages use Bengali Script. If you want to change it, bring proper sources to back your claim. That's the only convention here. You are now being stubbornly disruptive. Za-ari-masen (talk) 09:18, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Richard Keatinge, since you have just reverted my edit, can you point me any source at this talkpage that says these languages use "Bengali-Assamese script"? If not, please self-revert otherwise this would be regarded as a team-warring. Za-ari-masen (talk) 09:39, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Edit Warring

User:Chaipau you are involved in persistent edit warring to prove your seemingly unsubstantiated claims. Immediately stop the edit war and build consensus with other editors here. Thank you.भास्कर् Bhagawati Speak 16:17, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

@Bhaskarbhagawati: This is clearly not edit warring and the point is definitely not unsubstantiated.

• There is a reason why there are separate articles for "scripts" and "alphabets". What should not be done in this article is use ]
• One cannot pass off "Bengali alphabet" to mean "Bengali script". The script that is used for Assamese is called "Assamese script" in Assam (Bora, Mahendra (1981). The Evolution of Assamese Script. Jorhat, Assam: Assam Sahitya Sabha.) and the script for Bengali is called Bengali script (Banerji, R D (1919). The Origin of the Bengali Script. University of Calcutta.). These are not scripts in themselves, but rather alphabets used for specific languages.
• Writers such has Brandt have pointed out that the over arching script is better called "Easter Nagari script", since the script is used in many languages in their own specific ways. For example, Meitei uses the Bengali "ro" but the Assamese "wo". Thus it uses neither the Assamese nor the Bengali alphabet but an alphabet specific for itself which is neither "Bengali" nor "Assamese".
• Brandt also asserts that the Bengali naturally asserts the script is called "Bengali" without merit.

Chaipau (talk) 17:19, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

I appreciate that identity and naming are difficult in this subject. From the references presented on these pages, it seems to me that the most appropriate names are those that Chaipau presents - but I think that "Easter Nagari script" should be "Eastern Nagari script". I hope this helps. Richard Keatinge (talk) 12:11, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

It's only this single source that mentions Eastern Nagari and this source is the only thing that Chaipau try to present everywhere which has already been discarded at the talk page of that article with consensus. On the other hand, there are numerous sources that call it Bengali script which is also officially accepted by Unicode standard. Za-ari-masen (talk) 09:54, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

No one is calling it Eastern Nagari. We are using the name has been agreed upon for the name of the script, even though it is a misnomer. Chaipau (talk) 15:26, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

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