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:::As an aside, pretty sure Arafat signed on to 242 in 1988.] (]) 15:42, 28 February 2020 (UTC) :::As an aside, pretty sure Arafat signed on to 242 in 1988.] (]) 15:42, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

:I reinstated the text with sources.<ref>https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=8CiNDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT100&dq=Ten+Point+Program+PLO+rejected+242&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Ten%20Point%20Program%20PLO%20rejected%20242&f=false Jordan's Palestinian Challenge, 1948-1983: A Political History By Clinton Bailey</ref><ref>{{cite book|last1=Tucker|first1=Spencer C.|last2=Roberts|first2=Priscilla|title=The Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli Conflict|edition=1st|publisher=ABC-CLIO|url=https://books.google.com/books?id=YAd8efHdVzIC&pg=PA1335 |year=2008 |page=1335 |isbn=978-1-85109-841-5}}</ref> Article 1 of the 10-point program is the rejection of 242 as the basis for Arab or international dealings.--] (]) 21:14, 28 February 2020 (UTC)


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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 February 2017

Non-binding

The adjective "non-binding" was added to the intro in this diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_242&diff=752287367&oldid=736689089 It is true that the resolution is non-binding but so are almost all SC resolutions. I don't think it adds anything to the lead and could confuse the reader to believe that this resolution in particular is non-binding.

I also want to point out that Misplaced Pages has an article for almost every single SC resolution and the adjective "non-binding" isn't used in any of them. I therefore suggest that the adjective be removed from this article. ImTheIP (talk) 22:03, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

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Link "PLO" to "https://en.wikipedia.org/Palestine_Liberation_Organization" CytopathSKG (talk) 20:21, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

 Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:40, 21 May 2019 (UTC)


Palestinian rejection

The lede includes the following sentence, which is unsourced and not covered in the main body: “The Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) in its Ten Point Program adopted in 1974 rejected Resolution 242, with the rejection repeated by the Steadfastness and Confrontation Front in 1977.”

Does anyone have a source for this? We need to explain exactly what part of the resolution they rejected, if any, in order to put it in its proper context.

Onceinawhile (talk) 22:03, 27 February 2020 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with the specifics, I had thought the PLO was against 242 from the beginning. Later on, the objection was mainly based on the Palestinians being portrayed as nothing more than refugees.Selfstudier (talk) 12:41, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
See below.--Aroma Stylish (talk) 12:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
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As an aside, pretty sure Arafat signed on to 242 in 1988.Selfstudier (talk) 15:42, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
I reinstated the text with sources. Article 1 of the 10-point program is the rejection of 242 as the basis for Arab or international dealings.--Chuka Chief (talk) 21:14, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

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Please restore this text with the following source to back it up:

Thanks--Aroma Stylish (talk) 12:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)

It was objected to not only because of it being unsourced but because it is not in the article body (stuff in the lead needs to be in the body and the lead is a summary of the important points of the body). Where would you want to put it in the body? After that we can see whether that is a sufficient importance to make it into the lead. I want to think a bit more but my first reaction is that 1974 seems arbitrary. As I know it (I need to check), 242 was opposed by the PLO right from the outset not just from 1974 and then later they relaxed their opposition.Selfstudier (talk) 13:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
In fact, just following the given wikilink to the 10 point plan, it says in there "...only repeated the principles of the policies which the Palestinian National Council had accepted in the past: the denial of United Nations Security Council Resolution 242". So, while WP is not in itself a source, that accords with what I had thought, that the rejection does not date from 1974; on the contrary, that date might be looked at more as a date when the PLO began to think about relaxing their objection to it.Selfstudier (talk) 14:59, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
Also, I couldn't find any reference to the Steadfastness and Confrontation Front in the ref you gave, maybe it is on another page? Selfstudier (talk) 15:05, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit extended-protected}} template. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:27, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
  1. https://books.google.com.tr/books?id=8CiNDwAAQBAJ&pg=PT100&dq=Ten+Point+Program+PLO+rejected+242&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Ten%20Point%20Program%20PLO%20rejected%20242&f=false Jordan's Palestinian Challenge, 1948-1983: A Political History By Clinton Bailey
  2. Tucker, Spencer C.; Roberts, Priscilla (2008). The Encyclopedia of the Arab-Israeli Conflict (1st ed.). ABC-CLIO. p. 1335. ISBN 978-1-85109-841-5.
  3. Brynen, Rex (1990). Sanctuary And Survival: The Plo In Lebanon. Westview Press. ISBN 0813379199.
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