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*'''Keep''' Meets GNG per sourcing cited. Unfortunately this looks like the latest in noms failure to make a good effort at ]. ] (]) 08:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC) *'''Keep''' Meets GNG per sourcing cited. Unfortunately this looks like the latest in noms failure to make a good effort at ]. ] (]) 08:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
: {{ping|Gleeanon409}} let's try it again. For the 1000th time, please comment the article not me. I do not need to be constantly personally attacked by you and I don't need to justify my work which so far has shown to be a good job. --] (]) 10:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC) : {{ping|Gleeanon409}} let's try it again. For the 1000th time, please comment the article not me. I do not need to be constantly personally attacked by you and I don't need to justify my work which so far has shown to be a good job. --] (]) 10:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
::No. After Michael Brandon, JD Slater, and Raging Stallion Studios AFDs you’ve proven to be utterly irresponsible for checking thoroughly for sources ] you make the community spin its wheels explaining how AfD works. You’ve been asked before and I’ll ask again, please focus on improving articles instead of deleting ones on notable subjects. ] (]) 10:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

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the sources do not prove any notability. 1)iafd is not reliable, 2,3,4,5,6) these are list of porn prizes winners which do not count anymore since pornbio have been deprecated, 7) this is a short and shallow interview and interviews do not count for proving notability, 8)TLA is a shop, 9)iafd is not reliable, 10) this is just to short to prove anything, 11) iafd is not reliable and 12)it was his own blog. therefore the sourcing is insufficient, I looked myself for better sources but I couldn't find anything significant. AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 09:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:24, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:24, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. Shellwood (talk) 09:25, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Keep Meets GNG. Barry's life and career was written about in-depth in Jeffrey Escoffier's book Bigger Than Life: The History of Gay Porn Cinema from Beefcake to Hardcore from pages 305-311, with additional mentions on pages, 285, 320-321, 339, and 341-342. Plus other mentions in other books and scholar articles by Escoffier and others. GoldenAgeFan1 (talk) 15:18, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • judging from what you say there are a few pages into a book that speaks about him, i wouldn't call it an extended cover of the subject. anyhow, I will give a more in depth look. --AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 15:27, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
    • More than a just a few pages, 7 pages (pages 305 through 311) that cover his life and career 1 plus 6 other pages where he is mentioned in varying degrees. That is non-trivial, significant coverage and could be used to expand and improve the article. GoldenAgeFan1 (talk) 17:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
      • than it could be a starting point but definately it is not enough and so far is the only source pointing toward notability. we need more. (I am AlejandroLeloirRey, I can't log in right now) --87.11.211.120 (talk) 19:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
      • As I mentioned in my first post, there is some other coverage in books 1, 2, 3 and scholar articles (unfortunately most of those are behind pay walls). 4 Nothing great like the coverage in Escoffier book (which asserts he was a "one of the top porn stars") cited above, but I still believe he meets the GNG. Other editors can give their thoughts about it and vote accordingly if they wish. GoldenAgeFan1 (talk) 21:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  • I gave a deeper look to the book and actually is a good source. it is not based on the subject but the subject is covered in some length. the other sources you gave us are pure mentions. So far we have one reasonable source but I don't think this is enough(because is not that good as a source). we must find at least another one. --AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 09:04, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
@Gleeanon409: let's try it again. For the 1000th time, please comment the article not me. I do not need to be constantly personally attacked by you and I don't need to justify my work which so far has shown to be a good job. --AlejandroLeloirRey (talk) 10:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
No. After Michael Brandon, JD Slater, and Raging Stallion Studios AFDs you’ve proven to be utterly irresponsible for checking thoroughly for sources WP:Before you make the community spin its wheels explaining how AfD works. You’ve been asked before and I’ll ask again, please focus on improving articles instead of deleting ones on notable subjects. Gleeanon409 (talk) 10:33, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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