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Mataghis Never Captured

Hetq Editor: Mataghis Never Captured; Combatants from Turkey Suffer Heavy Losses

12:48, April 5, 2016 Reporting from Artsakh, Hetq Chief Editor Edik Baghdasaryan says that there is no truth to the claim made yesterday by Azerbaijan that it forces had captured the village of Mataghis in the northeastern district of Martakert.

“There were heavy clashes there yesterday. Azerbaijan’s military used all its arsenal in that direction. We suffered casualties, as reported by the Artsakh Defense Army. The Azerbaijani military staff figured that Armenian forces would retreat and that their forces would then triumphantly enter Mataghis. Just the opposite happened. After the artillery barrage, the Armenian forces responded in kind, picking them apart with precise strikes.”

Baghdasaryan reports that the retreating Azerbaijanis left their dead behind. He says he will try to ask the Karabakh authorities what will become of the corpses. Are negotiations underway to return them?

Baghdasaryan says that various Artsakh Defense Ministry reps have confirmed the presence of armed combatants from Turkey fighting alongside Azerbaijani soldiers.

“They suffered the most losses and they started the panicked retreat,” says Baghdasaryan.

So to all Azeri users, stop changing the page. Ninetoyadome (talk) 16:51, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

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94.20.88.121 (talk) 08:00, 29 April 2016 (UTC)Madaghis is Azerbaijanian's old living land and real turish is Tar-tar but Armenian army occupied here in 1993 Nogorno Garabagh is false armenian rebublic

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Cannolis (talk) 08:06, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Moving page

There is still no reliable evidence that the town was captured, so until then the article should be returned to its previous name. Kostja (talk) 11:34, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Agree. Artsakh Army denied Aliyev's claims and issued a video from October 4: "As to the Azerbaijan’s allegations about taking control of Mataghis, Defense Army reported that it is false. The footage shows the destruction of the vehicles of the adversary on the road taking to Mataghis." . Vaan23 (talk) 12:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

BBC also questions Aliyev's claims: . Vaan23 (talk) 12:58, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Agree. The renaming was done without discussion. The village is still known for its old name Mataghis/Madaghis/Madagiz. Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 07:48, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Ymblanter, may we know your opinion? Գարիկ Ավագյան (talk) 08:01, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I am not here to provide opinions, I am here to stop disruption and to enforce consensus. The best way to proceed is to start a RM.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:21, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Oppose it was officially renamed. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 09:07, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

It wasn't renamed even by Azerbaijan , so you're mistaken. Vaan23 (talk) 10:59, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

It was officially renamed today. — CuriousGolden (talk·contrib) 08:59, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

It looks like Ymblanter and Solavirum are running ahead dictator Aliyev, distorting facts. Vaan23 (talk) 09:21, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Dear user with 68 edits, the best thing you can do now is to apologize.--Ymblanter (talk) 10:19, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@Vaan23: please do not pretend you have not seen this and the message at your talk page. My next step will be WP:ANI, unless you apologize and retract this accusation.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:02, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Vaan23, WP:ASSUMEGOODFAITH, WP:CIVIL, WP:NOPERSONALATTACKS. --► Sincerely: SolaVirum 14:44, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Madagiz vs Suqovusan

I haven't seen anything that area was called Suqovusan before. Anyone has any idea what that place was called Soviet times and after? @Vaan23:, pinging you, let's see if anyone finds something. Beshogur (talk) 09:23, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

The area wasn't called Suqovusan before. In Soviet times , after and now it is called Mataghis. Vaan23 (talk) 10:05, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

That's why I am saying it is formerly called Madagiz. Considering it is de jure Azerbaijan, and the control over area is still uncertain, it means the name was in former use. Beshogur (talk) 10:41, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

The naming should show that the control is uncertain. Especially, because the international media still calls it Madagiz and Vzglyad claims that "the infantry, having entered Madagis, did not even try to fix there - and the next day they just left it" . Vaan23 (talk) 13:33, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes I agree about keeping the commonname, but I think it should be called formerly because if it is been renamed. Beshogur (talk) 14:58, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

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