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| ::Really? Which ones are "good-quality articles about the university" exactly? Would you call the the third one that's a essentially a long winded diatribe by the president of the university on fermentation a "good quality" article that's about "the university"? Or how about the forth source that's an extremely short paragraph about how the president left? How is that "good-quality" exactly? Or maybe your talking about the six source that's about 3 fisherman getting kidnaped and has absolutely nothing to do with the university? It's almost like you didn't even bother to look at the sources before you voted. --] (]) 06:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC) | ::Really? Which ones are "good-quality articles about the university" exactly? Would you call the the third one that's a essentially a long winded diatribe by the president of the university on fermentation a "good quality" article that's about "the university"? Or how about the forth source that's an extremely short paragraph about how the president left? How is that "good-quality" exactly? Or maybe your talking about the six source that's about 3 fisherman getting kidnaped and has absolutely nothing to do with the university? It's almost like you didn't even bother to look at the sources before you voted. --] (]) 06:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC) | ||
| :::I think that "" is particularly good; it's an article about progress that the university is making. I think that "" is also good; it's a news event that's specific to the university. I apologize if my comment made you angry. — ] (]) 16:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC) | :::I think that "" is particularly good; it's an article about progress that the university is making. I think that "" is also good; it's a news event that's specific to the university. I apologize if my comment made you angry. — ] (]) 16:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC) | ||
| ::::That's fine. Since you said "sources" I assumed you meant all of them. Anyway, I don't think you care if you made me angry or not. Nor is it likely that you even think your comment did make me angry. Mostly, it's just more of the usual goading that you seem incapable of keeping in check for some reason. That said, it does get a little time consuming and disruptive/unfair to the process if people post "bad" sources that have to be called out and if people vote keep (or even delete) based on them. That's all. --] (]) 17:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Keep''' I would like for someone to incorporate those identified sources into the article. With universities as long as we have evidence that they are real institutions engaged in actual education and not just diploma mills we will keep them.] (]) 13:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' I would like for someone to incorporate those identified sources into the article. With universities as long as we have evidence that they are real institutions engaged in actual education and not just diploma mills we will keep them.] (]) 13:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC) | ||
| ::Sorry, but I don't think sources about the chemistry of alcohol and three fisherman getting kidnapped should go in the article if it's kept. It's not about the fermentation process or Palestinian fishermen. --] (]) 06:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC) | ::Sorry, but I don't think sources about the chemistry of alcohol and three fisherman getting kidnapped should go in the article if it's kept. It's not about the fermentation process or Palestinian fishermen. --] (]) 06:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC) | ||
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I had added a PROD to this due to it's apparent lack of notability. Which was removed because "doing anything to university articles is controversial" or something. So, now I'm doing an AfD for it. What it comes down to for me is that this lacks multiple in-depth reliable sources about it, at least I was unable to find any when I looked for them, and universities are not inherently notable. With the current sourcing, one reference is primary and the other is extremely trivial. So, the article doesn't pass either WP:GNG or WP:NORG. --Adamant1 (talk) 04:59, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Algeria-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU 05:25, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU 05:25, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Phil Bridger (talk) 10:16, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. The topic is a public university in Algeria. It passes GNG with news items such as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and . Mccapra (talk) 08:23, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Per WP:NSCHOOL and more specifically WP:UNIGUIDE which begins
In general, all colleges and universities are de facto notable and should be included on Misplaced Pages.
Additionally sources in foreign language exist and Mccapra has found several to show that this article is verifiable and WP:N. Lightburst (talk) 15:40, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Did you bother to look at the sources provided by Mccapra? They are extremely trivial and not in-depth. Also, the sentence you cited says "in general", as in usually. Which isn't "always." So universities aren't de-facto notable. In fact more then a few have been deleted at AfD because they weren't notable. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:55, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- All the sources I provided are news items about the university, not passing mentions. Mccapra (talk) 21:01, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Did you bother to look at the sources provided by Mccapra? They are extremely trivial and not in-depth. Also, the sentence you cited says "in general", as in usually. Which isn't "always." So universities aren't de-facto notable. In fact more then a few have been deleted at AfD because they weren't notable. --Adamant1 (talk) 15:55, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep: Mccapra's sources are good-quality articles about the university; they're enough to establish notability. — Toughpigs (talk) 21:31, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
- Really? Which ones are "good-quality articles about the university" exactly? Would you call the the third one that's a essentially a long winded diatribe by the president of the university on fermentation a "good quality" article that's about "the university"? Or how about the forth source that's an extremely short paragraph about how the president left? How is that "good-quality" exactly? Or maybe your talking about the six source that's about 3 fisherman getting kidnaped and has absolutely nothing to do with the university? It's almost like you didn't even bother to look at the sources before you voted. --Adamant1 (talk) 06:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- I think that "A new incubator for technologies at the University of Boumerdes" is particularly good; it's an article about progress that the university is making. I think that "The strike of Boumerdes University students continues" is also good; it's a news event that's specific to the university. I apologize if my comment made you angry. — Toughpigs (talk) 16:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- That's fine. Since you said "sources" I assumed you meant all of them. Anyway, I don't think you care if you made me angry or not. Nor is it likely that you even think your comment did make me angry. Mostly, it's just more of the usual goading that you seem incapable of keeping in check for some reason. That said, it does get a little time consuming and disruptive/unfair to the process if people post "bad" sources that have to be called out and if people vote keep (or even delete) based on them. That's all. --Adamant1 (talk) 17:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- I think that "A new incubator for technologies at the University of Boumerdes" is particularly good; it's an article about progress that the university is making. I think that "The strike of Boumerdes University students continues" is also good; it's a news event that's specific to the university. I apologize if my comment made you angry. — Toughpigs (talk) 16:08, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Really? Which ones are "good-quality articles about the university" exactly? Would you call the the third one that's a essentially a long winded diatribe by the president of the university on fermentation a "good quality" article that's about "the university"? Or how about the forth source that's an extremely short paragraph about how the president left? How is that "good-quality" exactly? Or maybe your talking about the six source that's about 3 fisherman getting kidnaped and has absolutely nothing to do with the university? It's almost like you didn't even bother to look at the sources before you voted. --Adamant1 (talk) 06:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I would like for someone to incorporate those identified sources into the article. With universities as long as we have evidence that they are real institutions engaged in actual education and not just diploma mills we will keep them.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, but I don't think sources about the chemistry of alcohol and three fisherman getting kidnapped should go in the article if it's kept. It's not about the fermentation process or Palestinian fishermen. --Adamant1 (talk) 06:22, 14 October 2020 (UTC)