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*:] On a serious note, I may forget to get your attention specifically, but I assume you watch that appropriate venue I mentioned earlier. ]/<small><small>(])/(])</small></small> 17:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
*:] On a serious note, I may forget to get your attention specifically, but I assume you watch that appropriate venue I mentioned earlier. ]/<small><small>(])/(])</small></small> 17:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
== Proposed merger E Ink ==
Hi Drmies. My name is Carter and I work for E Ink Corporation. I proposed the ] page be merged with ] through a formal merger proposal . I was advised to be bold and merge the pages, but I didn't think editors with a conflict of interest were supposed to be bold. Hoping you might be willing to do the honors of merging the pages. ] (]) 19:09, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
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You spoilt my chance to post for Maxim, by closing! ((off-topic) But I thought you would have gone all Highlander and said "There can be only one!".) O well! Govvy (talk) 00:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Fun fact, my wife drives a Highlander, and that is one of our catchphrases. Other fun fact: it used to be that the Hondyssey was the vehicle of choice at the kids' school--no longer. It's all KIAs and, yes, Highlanders... I am sorry to ruin your pleasure, I am. I suggest you try and delete the front page. Drmies (talk) 00:50, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Delete the front page?? heh, we drive a lot of Honda's in my family. I have the 2009 Honda Insight at the moment. I am considering changing to the 2019 version of the Insight next year! Govvy (talk) 11:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
We had a Hondyssey, and then things started breaking down, in the most disappointing way. It was a great car while it lasted. I have a Prius myself that I'm very happy with, except it says "Depress the break pedal to start" when I get in it. So I played some Nick Cave and started going over my finances with the break pedal--to no avail. My wife explained I should simply put my foot on it--and that made sense, that is kind of depressing if you're a break pedal. That Insight got a lot bigger. I remember it fondly: Elizabeth Meese, who gave me the idea that became my dissertation, had one. She really needs an article, but as with so many academics it's so hard to get even basic bibliographic information. Rosiestep, do you have any tricks up your sleeve? Drmies (talk) 14:10, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Meese seems to have written some interesting books. It's unfortunate that there don't appear to be enough WP:RS for a bio to meet WP:N. As for me, I drive a Subaru Forester, which is quite practical given where I live. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:21, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
No, there's plenty of reviews of her work in JSTOR: she qualifies by virtue of her work having been recognized by reviewers, which is how a lot of academics get through. I just have to compile them, get all the factoids together, and lump it into an article which will have only the barest of biographies. Drmies (talk) 00:28, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I am reaching out because I feel that my Misplaced Pages adventure is coming to a bit of a cap. While I enjoy trying to counter vandalism, I would like to have the administrative power to stop people from vandalism, not just reporting them. I am reaching out to you to get a second opinion on wanting to become an admin. My Misplaced Pages adventure has been varied, and I'm willing to try other things, but so far, my opinion has been that an admin's main job is to keep vandalism from destroying Misplaced Pages. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on being an admin, and whether or not I could be a suitable addition to the team. Thanks! Balon Greyjoy (talk) 00:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I haven't been able to check your record, so to speak, and I may not have the time in the near future. When you go up, though, I'd be very careful about that vandalism-blocking as an admin's main job: I don't think there are many administrators who would agree that this is our most important function--there is a lot more to it, including protecting content creation, solve intractable disputes before they get to ArbCom, prevent harassment... I think at RfA editors will look at your track record in dispute resolution and content creation, including content improvement. I don't know what your record is there, but if you go up, many editors are going to look at that. So, I hope you'll consider thinking about all the other areas. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 23:23, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
That depends. It takes a while to do that properly, and we are talking about a user who in hundreds, maybe thousands of edits has flaunted our policies and guidelines. At some point it's fuck it, no, you can't make other people do all that work for you. User:Yankees10, were you tired of talking to a brick wall? I hear you. Drmies (talk) 23:15, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
I've fixed it, but I agree the user was disruptive and did not communicate (I too had left a concern on their talk page). --Jameboy (talk) 02:39, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Shenanigans at Abel Ferreira continue, in last reversion they reinstated wrong categories amongst other things (chances are they don't know how to revert or any thing, so just copy/paste; some cats have just recently been moved). With their vandalism, they somehow managed to contradict themselves, saying (WITHOUT a ref!) the manager had left PAOK while also being the manager of PAOK!
I have already reverted, and i fear any attempt at interaction with this person will amount to nothing. Happy weekend, congratulations for the cool mention at Wired --Quite A Character (talk) 15:46, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
AL I can't really do anything because you didn't explain in an edit summary or a talk page post what the problem was. As far as I can tell it's just about content, and as an admin that's not my job. If you had reverted with a reason like "unsourced" or "unsourced BLP violation" or "obvious careless error", and left an appropriate note/warning template on their talk page, then yeah I could see what level of disruption we have reached. So you should always try to have an interaction--if only to show others, like administrators, that you tried, and if there's no response, that's another kind of disruption... Thanks. Take care! Drmies (talk) 23:55, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Hey :) I need you to slow down undoing my work on the open data kit. We have been flagged for "irrelevance", so I am trying to establish that the platform is relevant and wiedly used. Please feel free to reorganize my data, but deleting it is something I find extremely unproductive and problematic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theb4ssm4ncometh (talk • contribs) 00:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
I need YOU to stop editing, as well as reverting, without ANY kind of explanation, and without complying with Misplaced Pages's guidelines, including the ones that pertain to secondary sourcing, inline URLs, and unencyclopedic content. And please sign messages. Drmies (talk) 00:49, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Sysops will once again be able to view the deleted history of JS/CSS pages; this was restricted to interface administrators when that group was introduced.
Twinkle's block module now includes the ability to note the specific case when applying a discretionary sanctions block and/or template.
Hello. If you don't mind me asking, which "jab" at Andrew were you referring to exactly? Also, I don't see what was condescending about me saying "Uhhh, kind of like Phil reproduced his claims of racism in multiple discussions?", when the person I was talking to had said in the last discussion that no action was needed about Phil because he was just being taken out of context. When he had reproduced his comments in other places, but then told me I should sanctioned for reproducing my comments in other places. Pointing out a counter example and someone's inconsistency is not "condescending." I agreed that I can be sarcastic, that I probably respond to people more then I should, and that said I would work on both. Your characterizing me and my behavior otherwise is frankly a little hurtful and isn't a fair reading of the situation. I also don't think your whole thing about blocking me if there is further incivility is fair, because lots of people are pretty uncivil to me, I should be able to respond without fear of being blocked, and I sometimes I just have bad days. Plus, a lot of the claims of uncivility that people made weren't actually me being uncivil. I don't feel like getting blocked just because I'm sarcastic once and someone takes it out of context or I respond to someone that is being rude to me, who then reports me. Which is mostly what happened there. So, can you elaborate on what you were talking about? --Adamant1 (talk) 18:38, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
As for "lots of people are pretty uncivil to me, I should be able to respond without fear of being blocked, and I sometimes I just have bad days"--there is no value in that. You're just saying "if people are mean to me I can be mean back, especially if I'm having a bad day". It doesn't work that way. If you're having a bad day, you should stay away from company. And being insulted, or feeling insulted, is no excuse for insulting. I think you are mistaking "sarcasm" for "condescension", and I think you would be wise to tone it down everywhere, all the time, on good days and bad days. I have no interested in blocking anyone; we don't get paid for blocks. I'd rather see you look at the many comments by experienced users like Ritchie333 and Grandpallama and take them to heart. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 22:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Andrew had said several times that he was going to oppose me doing AfDs and specifically targeted me because of them. Plus, he had already "explained" to me what the word college meant in a couple of other AfDs at that point. As if I needed it explained to me anyway. To me, it's pretty condescending to explain what basic words mean to people. Especially multiple times. So, I see zero wrong with my comment about it. It was true that he was trying to get me blocked and he shouldn't have talked down to me about what "college" meant. Period. I'm not connecting people making mean comments to me having bad days. You are. Nor am I saying that I think someone saying mean things to me necessarily justifies a "condescending" response. Which is why I have taken responsibility for my sarcasm. I do think context matters though. I don't think it's fair to put the blame on someone for responding a little harshly to someone who has gone out of their way to talk down to them repeatedly. Especially if they have been repeatedly to stop doing it. Which was the case with Andrew, ToughPigs, SportingFlyer, and a few others who had complained me in the AfD.
That doesn't mean my behavior is 100% solid all the time. I said I could tone it down. I don't think I'm mistaking "sarcasm" for "condescension" though. Your example of me saying "uuhhh" was 100% sarcasm. I say "uuhhh" all the time IRL because I'm a mouth breather and use filler words a lot. In no way is it "condescending" when I do. Rarely is it even sarcastic. I just don't feel like getting blocked for something like that. Especially if the people who are complaining about it are users that I've had repeated problems with and who were unwilling to resolve things civilly when I tried to. Plus, if you or another admin are telling me not to do something, and we fundamentally disagree that I'm doing what your saying I am, then that's an issue. I'm totally fine saying I've been sarcastic and that I could tone it down. I'm not going to accept that I've been condescending though. In no way do I think I'm superior to anyone. As far as Grandpallama goes, he intentionally miss-quoted people a couple of times just to continue arguments and accused me of being "lose with the truth." Which is clearly a lie. I've been pretty honest throughout this. Also, Ritchie333 was called out in several places by multiple users for being bias and retaliatory in relation to me. So, I'm going to take whatever "advice" they supposedly gave me with a grain of salt. I'm fine taking the advice of non-involved admins though. Just as long as it's clear advice. I would nitpick though that "experienced" users make bad calls sometimes. I rather listen to someone based on the strength of their argument. Not how long they have been here. You know, one of the things I've heard a bunch of times on here is how Misplaced Pages is trying to be more "inclusive." Which I agree with. There seems to be zero mindfulness about being "inclusive" when it comes to the unique ways different people speak in the world. Everything that's not said exactly how certain users think they should be said is "condescension" or "sarcasm", but a lot of the things I say like using the word "garbage" is just how I and the people around me speak. And we tend to be a little more sarcastic about things. It's not a slight though and it doesn't come from a place of condescension. It's just how I, and other people around me, talk IRL. Most of the time it's not even sarcastic. It's just the we use to describe things. Which I see nothing wrong with. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:00, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
OK, so it's other people's fault, is what I still hear. I don't think you can claim that somehow you are being discriminated against; in fact, we are all too inclusive of people who can't drop the snark--if that's how you and the people around you speak. I got a few things to do so I'll be short: if you're in a hole, stop digging. Drmies (talk) 00:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
That wasn't what my point was. I said several times that I take responsibility for the sarcasm and that I could BLUDGON things less. It seems like your the one being snarky here. Instead of treating this discussion fairly and me like someone who is just trying make sure the same problems don't happen again. It's not like I don't have better things to do myself then relitigate problems or debate how I meant things. Your the one that said I was being condescending and in no way do I think I'm better then anyone. Period. I don't feel like getting blocked because I am being miss-interpreted. That's it. --Adamant1 (talk) 01:25, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, thanks for the ping and a good close. I suspect between the discussion at AN and the comments here, your advice will unfortunately fall on deaf ears. I ultimately found it too exhausting, and too counterproductive, to continue participating there after the last response to my comments (plus, there is no contest between arguing on Misplaced Pages on a Halloween weekend vs. turning off the computer to drink spiced cider while you pass out candy and watch the costumed kids romp through the neighborhood). A civility alert sounds like a good idea, especially since genuinely civil editors who receive a civility alert/reminder don't have anything to worry about. :) Grandpallama (talk) 02:29, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Well, it can be exhausting when your accusing people of being liars getting in off topic side arguments. I'd disagree that the ping was a good thing. I should be able to ask an admin a question on their talk page without having to worry that I'm going to get ganged up on by people who clearly have a problem with me. Especially since I wasn't the one that brought you or Ritchie333 up. It's a rather bad faithed way to deal with things. I have zero problem with a civility alert/reminder. What I have problem with is people calling completely innocuous things uncivil. It also seems rather retaliatory when I was more then willing to take responsibility for the sarcasm and said I'd work on it. Any measure taken against a user who admitted to the problem and said they will fix it is not a good way to deal with things IMO. Even if it's just a warning. Especially since there was no consensus for sanctions in the AN. --Adamant1 (talk) 02:44, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
@Grandpallama: How many AfDs have you been involved in that I have and how many articles that I've edited (or otherwise) have we had disagreements about? (I'll give everyone a hint. Likely zero). --Adamant1 (talk) 02:52, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm going to give you a completely unsolicited piece of advice, and you would do well to listen to an uninvolved editor, for the first time since you opened the AN thread: Drmies will not appreciate you exporting your bludgeoning to his talkpage. He's already given you an incredibly strong, overt hint with his comment about digging holes. You should embrace having escaped sanctions and move on as quickly as possible. Grandpallama (talk) 03:13, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
That sounds slightly condescending and threatening to me. And here I thought we were all against that type of thing. Your the one that decided to join the discussion. So instead of deflecting why not just answer my question? I think it's fair to ask you how many times we have interacted before. Since you were so admit about me getting blocked in the AN and said I have a "shaky relationship with the truth." Which is a big reason why I started this discussion. How many AfDs have we been involved in together and how many articles that I have edited (or not) have we had disagreements or even discussions about? --Adamant1 (talk) 03:27, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
User:Ritchie333, you still haven't lost your sense of humor! Thanks for dropping by. Have you started your Sabbath cover band yet, or are you waiting for corona to die down? Drmies (talk) 15:11, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry to hear that and I hope you are better soon. The editor you need to talk to, though, is the editor who did all that work on the article. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:28, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
A beer for me
Many thanks for your post on my talk page. I moved from England to Australia 30 years ago. I am certainly not too old for a beer, but the one thing I really miss from England is real ale. Australian beer is just fizzy rubbish to me, so I mostly drink Australian wine, which is great. I go back to England most years and enjoy real ale with my daughters, but such a visit is sadly not possible at the moment. Enjoy whatever wine or beer that is to your taste. I see that you are an Alabama Crimson Tide fan. I used to visit a colleague in Birmingham at UAB and loved being there. --Bduke (talk) 01:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
You did? Interesting. The UAB Blazers football team was canceled a few years ago, and then brought back after a popular outcry. I haven't been to Birmingham in a while, though it's only an hour and a half up the road. It's certainly more exciting than Montgomery. Back when I was in college in Tuscaloosa a lot of people were excited about Foster's, mostly because it was different from the regular American swill that was available at the time--before the beer explosion, that is. When we moved to Montgomery anything over 5% was still illegal--crazy. I had a colleague in Birmingham, that is a fellow medievalist: Stephen Glosecki, who died too soon, and not long after a very positive prognosis. We hired someone from their ESL department a few years ago, and I've had at least one student who went there to get a Master's in ESL; their program is, as far as I know, excellent. Thanks for the note: all the best to you and yours, and I hope you get to visit your family soon. I'm more or less in the same boat. Drmies (talk) 15:17, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
OK--keep me posted. It doesn't ring any bells for me, but I've been here so long that I may be deaf to bells because they're ringing all the time. Drmies (talk) 17:10, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
On a serious note, I may forget to get your attention specifically, but I assume you watch that appropriate venue I mentioned earlier. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Proposed merger E Ink
Hi Drmies. My name is Carter and I work for E Ink Corporation. I proposed the E Ink Corporation page be merged with E Ink through a formal merger proposal here. I was advised to be bold and merge the pages, but I didn't think editors with a conflict of interest were supposed to be bold. Hoping you might be willing to do the honors of merging the pages. CDaignault1 (talk) 19:09, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
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