This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Tom.Reding (talk | contribs) at 13:34, 9 February 2021 (→Template:ACArt created: Preview-warning removed for suppressed params). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.
Revision as of 13:34, 9 February 2021 by Tom.Reding (talk | contribs) (→Template:ACArt created: Preview-warning removed for suppressed params)(diff) ← Previous revision | Latest revision (diff) | Newer revision → (diff)See also Template talk:Authority control
| This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Authority control page. |
|
Archives: 1, 2Auto-archiving period: 6 months  |
 | Misplaced Pages Help Project‑class Mid‑importance | |||||||||
| ||||||||||
 | Unique Identifiers (inactive) | |||
| ||||
 Archives | ||
|
||
|
This page has archives. Sections older than 180 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 5 sections are present. |
LCCN formatting
I have a 1957 book here with "Library of Congress Catalog Card No. 56-13477". How should this be mangled to fit the template? --Palosirkka (talk) 09:32, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
- This book?
- Pohl, Frederik (1975). Slave ship. New York: Ballantine Books. ISBN 0345245865. OCLC 9742212.
- Add the details to its wikidata item. d:Q3828875 using the "wikidata item" link at the left of the screen, d:Special:Diff/769328305. Add {{Authority control}} at the foot of the article, Special:Diff/865046366. And, nothing...
p.lccnLink in Module:Authority control tries to split the identifier, but this identifier is purely numeric so there's nothing to split, and it fails. The link works from the wikidata item, it looks like {{Authority control}} only works for items with an alphabetic start to their LCCN, not for books which don't.I'd be happy to be shown I'm wrong.- Pinging Tom.Reding who may be able to shine some light. Cabayi (talk) 10:54, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
- My dumb mistake there. LCCN numbers for books are entered in d:Property:P1144 & for people in d:Property:P244. Only P244 items are picked up by the module. Cabayi (talk) 11:11, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, that's the book Cabayi, thank you. --Palosirkka (talk) 13:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
- My dumb mistake there. LCCN numbers for books are entered in d:Property:P1144 & for people in d:Property:P244. Only P244 items are picked up by the module. Cabayi (talk) 11:11, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
authority contol line "magically" appears on existing articles
Greetings, While updating articles I have noticed some articles with existing {{authority control}} line & a blank line above. When I add "Subject bar" line, the authority control line now shows. This is not a big issue, but just curious why this happens? For example: Ermanrich, Bishop of Passau article. Why auth.control lines do not display when there is existing a.c. content? Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 15:17, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
"The NLR id XXXXXXXXX is not valid"
I'm seeing this large notice in red on all kinds of Authority Control templates now. Also "The BNC id XXXXXXXXXX is not valid". Sample: . Could someone please fix this? Softlavender (talk) 08:40, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
There are currently nearly 700 NLR invalid messages on Authority Control templates: , and at least 170 BNC invalid messages: . -- Softlavender (talk) 10:13, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
NLM
Is https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nlmcatalog/101321165 an authority control number for Thomas Morstede? WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:12, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
Template:ACArt created
I have created Template:ACArt, a visual arts specific version of the general Template:Authority Control. I have implemented it at Jan van Eyck as a demonstration: it reduces the clutter of 36 or so AC links to a much more reasonable 15, keeping the arts-specific ones (like RKD or Balat) and the most useful general ones for enwiki (Worldcat, LoC, ...), but removing the less interesting ones (non-English ones simply repeating the biographic basics, or things like Musicbrainz). The selection of what to include and what to exclude may need refinement, this is done in Module:ACArt (a spin-off of Module:Authority control).
All you need to do is replace, at the bottom of an article, {{Authority control}} with {{ACArt}}, et voilà! Fram (talk) 10:08, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
I have now replaced this template with a new version, not with its own module but as a wrapper with suppression of the unwanted links.
- Advantages: all improvements to the main template are automatically used in the ACArt template as well, no separate maintenance and module needed.
- Disadvantages:
- In Preview, you get a long list of very ugly error messages caused by the link suppression, which are unwanted for this wrapper
- When a new ID is added to the main template, it will need to get suppressed at the ACArt template.
For now, this looks to me like the better solution compared to a separate template. If we continue to go this route, with more separate wrappers for separate groups, it may be useful to think of yet another solution, where you e.g. have again one template, with one "switch" parameter, like {{Template:Authority control|type:Art}}. That would again put all maintenance in one spot, but may make for a very heavy to process template.
Other solutions and improvements welcome of course! Fram (talk) 15:05, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Done — preview-warning removed for suppressed params. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 13:34, 9 February 2021 (UTC)