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Semi-protected edit request on 9 December 2017

On second paragraph of "Smurfs" section, Sassette, Smart and a child who wears Farmer hat are not included in the 100 year old exceptions.Laranjatomate (talk) 22:26, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. HindWiki 01:18, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Snorks?

There was a TV show with underwater creatures called Snorks who used the word "snork" as the Smurfs use "smurf". My assumption is that the Snorks were a Smurfs copy. If anyone knows the real story and could add a small section, that would be helpful. Than you. four tildes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.207.235 (talk) 18:52, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Of course it's a copy, or a tribute, I don't know, as the "schtroumpfs" are much older. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.91.51.235 (talk) 03:22, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 September 2019

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In the subject name, it is said that Smurf is a Dutch translation of the name for the Stroumpf. That pertains to the fact that smurf cat is love and smurf cat is life. The word Smurf didn't exist in the Dutch language until god gave birth to smurf cat. Reinrovers (talk) 20:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —KuyaBriBri 22:26, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2020

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Smurf Economy = Communism

The Smurf economy as currently described in the article is completely identical to communism. It even paraphrases From each according to his ability to each according to his needs. I feel this should probably be mentioned, and the article for communism should be added as a Template:See_also or Template:Main. Crockett623 (talk) 11:21, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

What you have written there is a classical example of original research. The policy WP:NOR explicitly prohibits us from adding content to articles based on original research. If you can find a notable reliable source that says the same thing, it may make sense to include it. HiLo48 (talk) 18:09, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Three apples high

The article wrongly claims the Smurfs are "three apples high". They were probably described thusly in the original texts, but "three apples high" is a French idiom meaning "very small", and must not be taken literally. If you look at the comics, you can see the Smurfs are actually smaller than that.

I have put it in quotes, as it is indeed not "our" official measurement, but a quote from the original comics (in French of course) and from the Smurf.com website (the reference after the statement). Fram (talk) 17:29, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

The Smurfs — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.77.249.86 (talk) 23:51, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Shouldn't this article have some representative picture of a smurf?

Maybe a low-resolution comic panel or something? It should be fair use in this context. It seems weird that the only depictions of smurfs here are sculptures, when the subject is a long running comic book / animated video series. –jacobolus (t) 04:56, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

@Jacobolus Yes, fair use surely allows us to have one image here. Feel free to WP:BEBOLD and add one. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:47, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Video game

I was cleaning the video game section and noticed that the game list on this page and on List of The Smurfs video games did not match (also why are we repeating thremcan anyone find any sources for the games or should we go and remove them Fan Of Lion King 🦁 (talk) 22:15, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

@Fanoflionking Finding sources shouldn't be that hard. Might be best to move all game content to a list so there's only one place listing them. Any that are notable and have reception etc. can be summarized back here. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:46, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Proposal: merge individual Smurf albums into the List of The Smurfs albums

I suggest merging most if not all Smurf albums into a single list, as I fear they fail WP:GNG (right now they seem to be very badly written, with no references, some are misisng infoboxes, and of course none have info on awards, reception,e tc. They are listed here: Category:The Smurfs books. Similar things have been done following Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Les Collines noires to many Lucky Luck albums (List of Lucky Luke albums). See also test case of Les Schtroumpfs Joueurs, where after my talk request for sources (unanswered) and then a prod, it was redirected here by User:Kvng. I'll also ping participants of the mentioned AfD: User:Fram, User:BoomboxTestarossa, User:Siroxo, User:Sgeureka. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:41, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

  • Support such a merge as it's worked well so far with Lucky Luke. —siroχo 04:07, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Support. While at least some of the early books are certainly notable (e.g. the Black/Purple Smurfs, but also the anti-fascist King Smurf, or Schtroumpf Vert et Vert Schtroumpf about the Belgian language divide), they can always be recreated if and when someone is willing to write a decent article. Until then, a redirect to a list would be best (also for other series like Yoko Tsuno or Buck Danny or most European comics, though not Tintin obviously). Fram (talk) 07:21, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
PS. Having read that article I think it would be best to redirect my proposed list... article to The_Smurfs_(comics)#Volumes. Then various albums currently failing GNG can be redirected there. How does that sound? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 12:27, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
I would create the "List of ..." as a redirect to The Smurfs (comics) or a subsection, rather than moving the current article. It discussed the magazine publications, Marvel issues, and so on, which go beyond the simple "list of". And then also redirect the vast majority of the individual comics articles, without prejudice against recreating those that are notable and where someone will actually show this in the article. I would at first glance not redirect The Purple Smurfs, King Smurf, and perhaps The Smurfette and Schtroumpf Vert et Vert Schtroumpf (some good sources but not a lot of content). The others, as they stand, have no reason to remain separate articles. Fram (talk) 12:38, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
Fair. I've redirected the red link (list) for now. I'll be slowly redirecting the rest, time and will permitting, and I'll take a second look at the ones you mentioned. If you could find sources for any that you prefer to remain as articles, and good sources you are aware of are not present in the articles, mentioning said sources on talk and adding {{sources exist}} to the current article would be very helpful. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:50, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
@Fram (Forgot to ping in reply) Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:50, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
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