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SimonMayer 20:18, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Adopt this user

Greetings User:SuperM401, if there is room on your list of adoptees, I would appreciate some advice/help efficiency-wise, with some basic stuff. I have not written much of anything, nor started pages. I do recent changes, and watchlist. I am hoping to be able to improve my skills/knowledge concerning:

  • wikifying, in general, such as:
    • categories
    • citing
    • dablinks
    • links to other projects
    • naming conventions
    • lists
  • ..........

Some stubs I come across need attention, that's when I wish an expert were available. I guess I would be asking a series of questions about minor issues, as they come up (so not very systematic). And so, if you are available, please message the talk-page —Newbyguesses 06:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Greatful. Firstly –there is an info-box in this article and I don't know how to fill it in. Seems some real quiet editor has been trying to do it, not getting it right yet, and no other editors seem interested (from the history page). Another question, which Categories are appropriate? How many, how specific, how organised? Just letting me in on some basics, please, will speed up my contribs, and enjoyment. Keep all threads together on one talk-page, either one, if that is the best way to work. Or just swap messages, whatever. And answer when you get time from other work. Thanks —Newbyguesses 08:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Why can't I add the WPProject/Schools info-box to the talk-page for this school? ( I have tried a number of times, but cancelled the editing cz it wasn't right.) Maybe there are some merge/namechange/deleted/whatever issues with this article? Cheers –Newbyguesses 08:40, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

fair use rationale

Hi SuperM401, would you mind taking a look, I tried to follow procedure, provide a fair use rationale for this image — Tgsh logo.gif — for this educational article. Not done anything like that before, not being much interested in images, as the web-connection is always so slow. I do have acess to a camera, but images I took locally, maybe helpful, unlikely to be high-quality. (Idea for later.) For now, I want to get this image checked — am I doing the right thing. My to-do list is on Userpage:Newbyguesses - and I started crossing off already. Thanks for listening. Cheers! –Newbyguesses 13:58, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the image TGSHS - now the info-box has an ugly forest of red, blue, black entries. Do I have to check heaps of other articles to see what best practice is, or --- I am unclear about wiki or not for dates. And for suburb, town, state in these entries. And the schoolwebsite entry is untidy, but how should it look? (As an aside, the font or typeface is rather bland to my eyes, reading onscreen is not my favourite activity, but beats going to the library 10 times a week.)

Yes I see what I was doing wrong on PTSS - I was trying to add a (template?) WP Project Schools - (What would that be used for?)
No, I dont intend to use Sandbox much, nor create content in userspace. Having said that, my HTML coding is rudimentary, and I might need somewhere to work on stuff like that. Also, for setting out, I know not a thing about -boxes, tables, width, div, toc-right, infoboxes and images -- in short, making a pretty page, which is important, is something one has to practise. I would like to get proficient enough to do up a dummy article (for layout purposes only) - see post on my talkpage - initial thoughts on setting out an article. I realise I dont know what a script is, nor a monobook, (although I somehow managed to get Popups installed, how I aint sure.)
WP is NOT -- yeah, -- not a social-network (gabfest), but cameraderie amongst editors is pleasant. Thanks for your help to date, and I carry on my to-do list, with more confidence. ^-^ (What?) Newbyguesses 02:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

User-preferences- is there anything on there for me to worry about. Skins- (stick with what I started with) Maths - I had hoped to learn Latex - I aint done any maths markup yet, Email address -- you are welcome to email me any long or involved posts. May I do the same if circumstances require? — Newbyguesses 03:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

popups

Hi, I am starting to use Popups, its scary, but that auto-save is a bottler. Dont understand what it means to "edit a prior version"? What if a "test-editor" has done three sneaky ones (see my edits on Greatest Hits). Can you catch them? What does it mean "all intermediates will be lost"? Am I right, WP-Undo works "in article space", but Popups gets its info from somewhere else? What happens when you "edit a previous version"? Is that a way to cut and paste around things when good work was interspersed with nonsense edits? (btw) I prefer to use the word 'vandalism' only to refer to the aggregate effect of damage (temporary) to WP - to me, each individual edit which I revert is (rv-v an unhelpful edit) , or (rv-v nonsense) or such – it matters to me to use and mean words, that's what interests me, so I put the little flower on the User:page with its unspoken message (just like I see others do), being as true as one can to WP:AGF. Wonder how long this idealism can last?

So, I want to write again but before I do, got to get some references organised, (and read), and get this Citation stuff under my belt. I still see a redlink when I look at List of publications in Philosophy for instance. I am envisaging a (list, maybe) of Dictionaries (there is one, in the article Dictionary), however it is short and doesnt give IBSN's or publication years. Some dictionaries have articles, but some merely point to articles about the parent company (M-W, and Collins). For me to write, and cite, I gotta read, read, read, which means to write one good paragraph, could be a couple of days work or more. Is it just me being so slow, or does everyone have to spend half there life waiting for pages to download, or trying to get back to a page?
I am getting just a bit despondent at present, guess it looks like so much to find out about. Maybe tell me a little about redirects, double redirects, traps to watch out for, and moving pages (not that I would dare at this stage). And NAVIGATION - blast it! I am always getting lost. For instance, how does one get to Wiktionary? I sometimes open up multiple screens, add to the confusion. If one wants to follow links forward, and then go back, how is it done and not take so long that one needs a packed lunch and retraining at the end? Oh, and I set up an account on Wiktionary, cz there is some deal with inter-project links, (and i wont be editing there in a real hurry, the page setup, and etymology etc is daunting). There is actually a WP article entitled what?, so it points to a W-ary page, which correspondingly, and correctly (now) points to a dabpage on WP. That's the way its done. Some stubs look so serene –Newbyguesses 00:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Like what you did with the template. (Someone has since added a blank box, below the filled-out one.) btw, did you notice, on the info-box it says correctly, enrolment, but for the code one has to go enrollment. How's that for NPOV? (spelling) —Newbyguesses 01:11, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Popups

Popups has a feature which automatically presses the save tab, and then says at the top, please wait for next page to load - that's a real handy feature, yes.

Australian slang dictionary for the novice and expert alike. ... Bottler :, something excellent. Bottling : his blood's worth:, he's an excellent, ... http//www.australianexplorer.com/slang/phrases.htm –Newbyguesses 02:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

How does deletion go

If you would care to take a look at my contribution on this talkpage? I am unsure what action I would take. (How does deletion process go?) Consensus is required. I am aware of the issue of canvassing. (when does it apply, who makes such an accusation?) Also, I should on the article page date-fix the neutrality tag, (Y/how?) — Newbyguesses 02:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Tabs, cookies, bookmarks, and so forth

I have this article on my watchlist - Tabbed document interface. Maybe when I read it five times I can figure it out. ( A little personal history - In 1971, I was studying CompSci at UQ, and did not graduate. In 1984, I was selling computers -CBM, Vic-20 and software Visicalc, a spreadsheet, tho I never done any spreadsheets myself. In 1991, I began to write in Basic a Bridge program, and gave up after 50 lines of code. I figure I can buy a Bridge program for twenty bucks. Fifty lines was just enough to deal the cards. Currently, IE6, Windows XP, (not my computer, and I dont and wouldnt pay for the connection either) ) I have got four useless grey lines on top of this screen, but (tab?) what's a tab. I will just plod along,I guessNewbyguesses 03:00, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

slow

Regarding slowness, at present, articles such as this and that, load so slow that I dont ever see much beyond the first paragraph. These might be featured articles, but how would I know that? Featured content, (images), I can not access, so, I see not the best of WP. Picture of the day I can get.Newbyguesses 03:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Dialup

A company whom I wont name provides a crummy service. They call it broadband, but the speed is equivalent to dial-up. I dont pay for it, but still feel ripped off. I need to adjust the things I expect from on-line. — Newbyguesses 04:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Keeping threads in one place

I can see that with a couple of screens open, one could follow a thread, even if the replies are on a different page. But with only one open, it is more convenient to leave all on one page, like on an article/Talkpage. I often read a talkpage from top to bottom, and believe I can identify ways to improve articles that way. Chronological order is easier for me to comprehend, even if the topics fluctuate. That said, it is a method for Article/Talkpages, and the back and forth method seems to be preferred on UserTalkpages, and has advantages. Either way is fine, just, I will try to put stuff in the relevant place, altho I prefer just to post at the bottom of the page. Newbyguesses - Talk 21:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try to keep topics in one place. I just like the automatic notification that someone has posted to my talk page, but that's okay; I am already watching your pages. Superm401 - Talk 02:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
How about multiple copies of a post? As is required for certain procedures? How many copies is too many? How many copies are there anyway, with all the backups? And what are the mirror sites all about? Newbyguesses - Talk 06:49, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Don't make multiple copies of posts in a user talk conversation (at least with me). Generally, multiple copies are not a great idea, except for quoting and archiving. You're right that backups result in many extra copies, but the multiple live copy issue is more one of organization. If you have the same content in two places, there tends to be duplication of effort. That's why we have redirects, for example. As for the mirror sites, mirroring allowed under the GFDL (though some of them are non-compliant), and most are trying to make money off ads. You can get into the gory details (if you want...) at Misplaced Pages:Mirrors and forks. Superm401 - Talk 20:36, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Quoting, Reposting, Moving Threads

What is the correct WP:etiquette for quoting the words of other users? What is WP:Et for reposting a message on another (Talk)page? Or multiple talkpages, as is required in some places. And how about refactoring a page or a thread, for archive purposes? Newbyguesses - Talk 21:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Just put it in quotes, and link to the original page (preferably a diff). See Help:Archiving a talk page for archiving instructions. Superm401 - Talk 02:16, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Neat tricks

How does one get a diff to show? And this stuff – Referring to your post (pos), this diff (rdr) convinces me that WP:Abc needs editing, then this... and so on? It would be easiest if you answered these here, I come and check for news, or if you want, send it all over to Newbyguesses' Talkpage, or the replies, whateverNewbyguesses - Talk 21:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Diff for how to find diffs. Essentially, you go to the history of the page in question and find the relevant revision. Then, next to it you click "last", which takes you to the diff. Then, you can copy the url and treat it as an ordinary external link. Superm401 - Talk 02:19, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
The page Help:diff has a blue link page widening which was deleted October 2006. Why still blue? On searching WP for Page widening, a relevent entry is Page widening troll, which then redirects to a page Slashdot. What has gone on here, (is it only of historical interest), but what is page - widening anyway?Newbyguesses - Talk 06:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
This is a bit tricky; that's actually an interwiki link. That's the kind of link you use to link to Wiktionary, for instance. Normally, you wouldn't use an interwiki link when linking to your own wiki. But that help page is copied from meta:Help:Diff, and there the link has to be interwiki. Superm401 - Talk 20:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
I assume page widening is artifically (e.g. with CSS) making a page very wide so it's hard to read. Superm401 - Talk 20:41, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Community Portal

Hi. For my next question -

Articles on WP are for the rendering of information. The talkpage of the article is for discussing improvement(s) to the article. Can you give me an idea of some places I could look on WP, a forum, or fora, or forums, where writing style, copyediting, setting out, and such matters are discussed.

I recommend Misplaced Pages:Village pump for that. For simpler, less opinionated questions you can use Misplaced Pages:Help desk, or just ask me. :)

I know about some, such as Rfc on article, or League of Copy Editors. I have not yet learned to navigate my way real well through the Community Portal to Newcomers/Help and further such assistance, maybe you could give me some pointers here. I am enjoying WP more now, the adoptionship is working well, are you also pleased with how its going? How goes your Admin work? Regards — User:Newbyguesses - Talk 19:03, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it's working out well. I haven't been doing much admin work lately, but that's okay for now. Superm401 - Talk 01:34, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Featured Sounds

  • At WP:SignPost 2007-06-04, newly featured sound wesnothmusic.ogg is 4.5MB. Is that a lot, or a little for such a file? How long would such a featured sound run for. How loud. Is it compressed? Past experience leads me to believe it not worth trying to download, the computer cant handle such a task without crashing, it takes all night. Or, maybe I dont do it right?
That's about typical for a featured sound. It's 4:22, about the length of a CD track. It is compressed in Ogg Vorbis format; see Misplaced Pages:Media help if you have difficulties playing it. There's no way to determine how loud ahead of time, but you can adjust your volume. I don't know why it would crash your computer, but it's hard to predict how long it would take. Superm401 - Talk 01:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I am learning to work MyContribs from the top down, and MyWatchlist from the bottom up. The To-Do list is taking more time though, I am getting there. Regards, Newbyguesses - Talk 00:15, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Glad you're getting into the swing of things. Superm401 - Talk 01:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Cut and paste (URLs)

Sorry, I haven't got this yet. For diffs, etc, the URL flashes briefly across the bottom of the screen when I mouse over that section of the screen. So, how do I display it, to paste to the scratchpad, and where do I paste it. Addresses dont display at the top of the screen, they used to, sometimes in windows98, wasn't it. – Newbyguesses - Talk 02:25, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

You can right-click the link, then click Copy Shortcut (or similar). Then, paste it in the edit box as part of your edit when you want to show it to someone. I'm not sure what you mean about the address not displaying. Can you email me a screenshot? Superm401 - Talk 02:34, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Adopt

Would you please adopt me? Nasanerd 20:29, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Need a adopter

Im from india would like to help[REDACTED] as much as i can, As im v new to wiki, i need a adopter to adopt me to help.... waiting for ur acceptance... Thanx....

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