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Bike articles

I noticed your frustration while editing the Ninja 250 article... why indeed is the overall quality of bike articles on wiki so low? No uniformity, cohesiveness... sigh... AniRaptor2001 19:34, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm not really feeling frustrated. Just saying how you fix one thing and that leads to ten other things that also have to be fixed. In truth I'm kind of happy to know that I won't run out of things to do. But sometimes it seems daunting...Dbratland (talk) 01:01, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

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Ducati 65T

Hi. Regarding this article you recently created; the original version was not a suitable Misplaced Pages page, because an article cannot be just an infobox. I've 'wikified' it a bit, and now it looks OK as a stub. Please compare the original version to the version after my edits.

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WikiProject Motorcycling Italian Motorcycles

Thanks for joining the Italian Motorcycles Special Interest Group. You are right there is a lot to do but I've had encouraging feedback from around the world for the work I've been doing on Category:British motorcycles so it is worth it. it would be good if we can do the same with the Category:Italian motorcycles Cheers Thruxton (talk) 18:50, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm really excited that somehow the Berliner Motor Corporation article seemed to fall into place. I was afraid I'd couldn't pull a coherent story together about them. I'm hoping it is in a state that will attract more interest, for example from the Norton and Matchless experts who probably know a lot about that side of the Berliner story. Dbratland (talk) 19:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

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userboxes and bikes

Heh, nice userbox. And what bikes do you have? (I currently have a DL650 and a DRZ400S, but I've had quite a few others) tedder (talk) 04:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

• The four in the pictures. The last two pictures are actually of my bikes, and the first two are only examples of the same model. And actually the Ninja 250 is my wife's bike, and while the Yamaha Vino 125 is mine, she is the only one riding it for whatever reason. I'm hoping the Ducati Bronco will at least run, if not ride, by the end of the summer. If not I'm stuck with just the Ducati Sport1000, which is great but sometimes I think it's too much. I'm constantly thinking of selling it and getting 2 or 3 smaller, lighter, and perhaps older, bikes; so I can finally try a dual sport or supermoto, among others. But I'll probably keep it at least until the economy rebounds. My recent return to WP is due to researching the Bronco 125 and then the Berliner Motor Corporation and then one thing led to another... --Dbratland (talk) 04:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Ah. Wondered where the Bronco came from- good work on that article. My wife had a ninjette, which was a blast, but it isn't my type of bike. tedder (talk) 05:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Please stop

Please stop making personal insults such as, "certain people will stop at nothing to keep a fight going...". I'm just trying to make sure the article is accurate and that we don't perpetuate any myths. I'm sure you want that too. --Born2cycle (talk) 01:20, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source who says there is a myth that needs to be dispelled, cite them.--Dbratland (talk) 01:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Why cite something for a claim that the article is not making, nor even implying? I honestly don't know whether "lane-splitting is always illegal in all states but California" is a myth or not. As far as I can tell, no one knows for sure. But we do have to provide reliable sources for claims made in the article. I have not seen any reliable sources that support that claim. Requiring reliable sources is how we avoid perpetuating myths that might be out there. You seem to be convinced that I have some nefarious motive other than that (which says more about you than me), but I assure you that's all this is about, and my posts are consistent with that. --Born2cycle (talk) 05:41, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

You seem unable to do anything but keep the same argument going. From your history, I can see I'm not the first, nor the second, to make this observation. Others, too, have come to believe your goal is the dispute itself. Why not accept mediation? Unless you don't want it to be settled, perhaps?--Dbratland (talk) 05:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

(OD) Can you answer born2cycle's question/comment? I'm trying to remain neutral, so if you could explain, I think it would be helpful. tedder (talk) 11:10, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

well done!

Nice job on the List of motorcycle manufacturers, especially this edit. tedder (talk) 05:32, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Fringe theory?

I seem to have really gotten under you skin. Sorry about that. Here is the description about one of the key sources to the article you just claimed is "fringe theory"

Bicycling & The Law, by Bob Mionske, is a comprehensive primer on all facets of the law as it pertains to the average cyclist. Published in 2007, Bicycling & the Law is the first book on bicycle law written for the average cyclist since The Road Rights and Liabilities of Wheelmen, published at the height of the bicycle's golden age in 1895. In The Road Rights and Liabilities of Wheelmen, cyclists were advised of their right to the road, which had been secured in a series of court cases and legislation in the 1880s and 1890s. In Bicycling & The Law, cyclists are advised on their legal rights developed in the century since the publication of The Road Rights and Liabilities of Wheelmen, including their legal right to the road, extending back to those early cases. Cyclists are also advised on their legal rights and duties, as well as how to handle their own traffic ticket, common bicycle accidents, how to avoid them, and what to do if the cyclist is involved in an accident, how to insure themselves, legal responses to harassment of cyclists, lemon laws and warranties, how to protect against bicycle theft, and contractual issues cyclists commonly face.

That's fringe theory??? New ideas??? --Born2cycle (talk) 19:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Note this issue has surfaced at ANI: Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User Born2cycle.2C tendentious editing and a flat refusal to engage in any sort of mediation. tedder (talk) 00:17, 4 June 2009 (UTC)