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You should have been blocked for a lot longer than a month, my friend.--Jimbo Wales 17:13, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

We are not in the business of 'outing' people, and we must continue to have deep and profound respect for the subjects of our biographies. ---Jimbo Wales 14:33, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

User:MegamanZero/TopNav User:MegamanZero/Templates/TalkArchiveBar User:MegamanZero/Talk Template

Userboxes don't equal blogs

Describing your social or economic opinions or allowing others to acknowledge them isn’t bloging. This is, quite frankly, just being honest and exposing potential biases that we’d find out sooner or latter. Furthermore, Wikipedians have shown that political divide isn’t a factor. Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives, Socialists, and all the likes have came together in opposing your rouge, unilateral platform, based mainly on some statements Jimbo made. Self references certainly do not harm Misplaced Pages and are disconnected from the actual encyclopedia. Wiki isn’t a bureaucracy and self descriptive templates problems don’t match the hype administrators have been putting on them.

Furthermore, Wiki isn’t about a sole authority figure, even Jimbo, unilaterally directing things. Wiki is about a community and collaborative effort. A few Administrators shouldn’t have absolute power and Wiki must foster discussion to succeed.

Canadianism 10:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

• Saying you're an democrat, an republican, etc. is perfectly fine. The only problem with userboxes is when the community confuses the interests of the encyclopedia with the personification and sharing of their own interests. Go figure. That's not goining to fly. When userbox mania crosses into the realm of imfalmmatory and offensive, not to mention pure unadaterrated absurditty, then they must go. Additionally, users have begun to justify the prolonged longtivity of these boxes by using the constraint of process.

Concerning templates and self refernence, I think we'll have to agree to disagree here. The point of all the tools and options provided to us is to expand the encyclopedia. Mea Culpa. The community, admistrators, collaborative effort, its all for the encyclopedia. From your staement, it seems to me you're placing the community before the value of the site (Of course, I could be mistaken, however, your statement sounds akin to the thought through which it was conveyed). Good faith, hardworking admins deleted these imflammatory boxes, ussually with a valid comment about an troll out to make trouble. I see no harm in deleting them. Please get back to concetrating on the encyclopedia. -Zero 15:51, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Dschor

I do not think it helpful to suggest he discuss things with you! It will only extend his ban. The talk pages of banned users are not a great place to initiate conversation. -Splash 17:11, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Please see this and take note. Per the rfa page, User:Dschor is blocked for disruption. While I agree upon the concensus his probation is to be enforced, the fact that his contributions go waste are not. I constructed his articles he prepared, and I merely wish an comprimise he be allowed to his talkpage as long as his actions represent an effort to improve the encyclopedia. -Zero 17:30, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom rulings are not subject to compromise, unless the Committee changes their ruling. There is no consensus on probation, since he is banned and committee rulings do not need consensus. I do not see anything in that link that I should take any notice of, since it is a banned user circumventing his ban. Enforcing an arbcom ruling is not, as you accuse below, thuggery. You should be careful of accusing people of such things, particularly the arbitrators. -Splash 18:04, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

I said as much in my comment to the talkspace. Why should we prevent users from making good-faith and productive edits..? That doesn't make sense. And, yes, I do indeed agree with the arbcom's criteria and rulings, I'm merely making an statement of discussion pertaining to the matter. Perhaps we should make an argument of allowing him to merely construct an sandbox. I'm not making an personal attack of thuggery, merely an citation to how we should give this some thought. I do apologize if I came off as so. I'm merely trying to come to an comprimise. Do not believe we have differning viewpoints on the matter, on the contaire, I'm in full agreement, just try to assume good faith. -Zero 18:14, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

The reason we do not allow any edits from banned users is that, if we did, we'd have to have long discussions over when to revert, when to extend bans, etc. That, in cases more serious than Dschor's, would be allowing the trolls to continue causing division even though they are banned. I don't know if you're familiar with the banned User:Skyring, but this is more or less exactly the way he behaves — he fixes a semicolon in amongst trolling and someone, somewhere, tries to say that means he should be allowed to edit. The ArbCom is there to put a final end to all the discussion which usually has followed months of bad-blood and to hand out a binding ruling with remedy. There are no exceptions to bans, unless the Committee makes one; they didn't do that this time. That said, you may be able to persuade the Committee to replace their remedy with another one. This is not something that can be decided among admins and/or other editors, however, hence the fact that the talk page message to Dschor isn't the place to start. -Splash 18:22, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Okay. I'm merely saying what I believe is good for encyclopedia. Allow edits for mainspace expansion and creation, and discussion regarding other areas of interest are to be ignored. You're completely correct, this situation had divulged into an probmatic area, and an ban was good. However, discussion regarding the striging of the good and bad is perfectly warrented. Thanks for your advice and consideration, and I'm gald to be on the same team. -Zero 18:31, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

edit count adjustment

I'd really rather not start adjusting user's edit counts. Other users have much larger "problems", in that they made several thousand edits under a different user (or IP) than they currently edit with. Also, edits (especially four edits) shouldn't really be that important... And per the Splash's comments on my talk page, Dschor is banned, not on probation. --Interiot 17:22, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

You're correct. And, per the rfar, he is banned (I was under the introspect they were the same thing in his situation and its what I meant). If you feel its not okay to insert the edits, that's fine, but when an user is prevented from making contributions in light of an lack of disruptive behavior, there's a problem. I'm sorry that you feel that way. Consorting with such outright thuggery will not make Misplaced Pages a better encyclopedia. There are policies and common distinction between good and bad faith, they work, when they're blatantly ignored with the sanction of the admistrator, it's not a good sign (I am not accusing anyone, however). -Zero 17:30, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Weapons list

Hey, Zero. Sorry, I kinda forgot about your query the first time you asked it. But I have reviewed the list and, I must say, I'm thoroughly impressed and commend you on a job well done. Unfortunately for me, I haven't be able to contribute work of such high calibur to the Mega Man articles lately. The FF Project and I have had some major issues to discuss and take care of the past few weeks. And I apologize for not really holding up my end of the bargain on cleaning up the MM articles. Quite frankly, I'm considering putting in a request to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Computer and video games for some major overhaul, because we need for manpower. Anyway, thanks again and great work! ~ Hibana 23:32, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. No problem, and I'm sorry if I tried to make the MM articles convey an sense of urgency; I'm glad we have our own little niches in the encyclopedia to work in, that's what's its all about. :) -Zero 23:38, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

hello

hello there! - i was just browsing around, and came across a link to this page from tony sidaway's page - i thought i'd just ask you a question.... your talk page says you've been a wikipedian for over a year now, but your first edits were only in june - did you used to have another account, and have you ever been an admin? - you seem to work hard here, and be a generally nice bloke, so i thought i'd say hi...... -— Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.245.178.133 (talk • contribs)

Ahoy! Welcome to the S.S. Talkpage of Megaman Zero. Yes, indeed, I was editting from a number of IP's before my account construction, and I consider that timeframe and the length of my time as an registed wikipedian the sum of over an year. Very nice to meet you too. -Zero 12:34, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:P andy01.jpg

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Taken care of. Yet another one of the images I missed from my newbie days. Thank you for the update. -Zero 18:35, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Link revert

You reverted without explanation? --Flipkin 18:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

They're Mexicans. Why would you remove links supported by factual edvidence without explanation..? -Zero 19:07, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Diff

My pleasure. (And google is love, btw, since wiki's internal engine is a complete asshole when looking for multiple words stringd) Circeus 17:04, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:Oh My Goddess Extlink

Please discuss at Talk:Oh My Goddess!. - Brian Kendig 20:39, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I've been to all the fan-sites. They provide different aspects at different levels of quality. Gateway to the goddess provides in-depth coverage and over analysis, as well as trivia. Feather provides a broad information basis thinly expanded over general topics, etc. The point of the article is to provide as much coverage as possible, as well as regards to our own. The multiple sites possess different characteristics, and as such are valuble to the reader, not to mention appealing to an mainstream auidience. Its also of note they are very useful references.-Zero 21:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm glad these valuable sites are out there, and I'm glad people have Dmoz and Yahoo and Google and other tools by which to find them. However, Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia, not a web directory. Misplaced Pages policy specifically discourages what you're trying to do (see m:When should I link externally). - Brian Kendig 21:24, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Additionally, if you're going to link to information about (for example) Gan-chan, have it link specifically to a web page about Gan-chan, not to the top-level page of a web site about Ah My Goddess. There are many precedents for this in Misplaced Pages: for example, movie articles link to their IMDB entries instead of to the home page of IMDB.com, and individual Star Trek articles link to their corresponding entries on Memory Alpha instead of to the top level of Star Trek fan sites. I'm not aware of any other fandom which Misplaced Pages allows to link to the same exact site from every article pertaining to the fandom. - Brian Kendig 21:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

You seem to have your facts wrong my friend. Many other articles follow this method, and considering the popularity of the manga and series as an whole, its no wonder to realize the concensus for this.

The thinly-veiled policy (which I've seen before) that you kindly directed me to prohibits agaisnt blogs, Forums, non-neutral links and links that have little to do with the source material, which is clearly not the case here. It also states External links are a very good way of pointing to authorative reference material that supports facts in the article, as well as Where one has written some[REDACTED] content by lifting facts from an external webpage then it is polite to reference that webpage and particularly now that the Misplaced Pages content is easily downloadable for offline or other use, it's convenient to have the material available "locally" and licensed for any use. which supports my previous thesis above. These links are perfectly constructive and expansive to the article. They assist in the task of engulfing the reader into informative analysis and expansion. And they are perfectly within policy, as well as within wikipedia's goals.

However, I have given it an small discrestion of thought, and I hear what your're saying. I agree the number of sites could be trimmed down a tad in the respective section, and I'll do as such. But this does not justify your complete eviceration of all of the external links from the articles-Zero 21:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tony Sidaway/Workshop

I have just done a massive refactoring of Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tony Sidaway/Workshop, in order to

• remove personal attacks, irrelevant comments, and bickering
• make the page readable and usable for the arbcom, as at its previous size of 183KB, it was not.

As your words appear on that page, I'm letting you know so that you may review the changes. I have tried not to let any bias or POV I may have color my summaries; however, it's a wiki, so if you think I've misrepresented your words, please fix them. Wearily yours, Mindspillage (spill yours?) 08:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Oh My Goddess!

Yeah, i don't know any TV-series related sites of heart, though Belldandy angel feathers is a good all round fansite. I've got some time so i will do a search. -Dynamo_ace Talk

OK, i have got some sites but none of them are a "perfect" TV series fansite. Take a look for your self and see if they are any good.

http://www.1up-mushroom.net/oym/

http://www.goddess-project.net/

Sorry about that -Dynamo_ace Talk

Erwin Walsh

G'day Megaman Zero,

I discussed the issue with JoanneB (talk · contribs), who is actually an administrator herself, on IRC, and we decided to go with just Jo's warning. I'll be watching as best I can, and upon his next personal attack I'll block him for 24 hours or so. I'd appreciate it, if you see something I don't, if you brought it to my attention, if you don't mind. fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 18:18, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Ultimate Armor

Hi, Zero. We meet again...

Yes, it's about the Ultimate Armor's info of X. I know I did it rather in a sudden. The info would be better depicted here, it is a page of X4 official site.

アルティメットアーマー is Ultimate Armor.
禁断のパーツ means forbidden part(s), but is not the nickname of the Armor anyway...

And please don't ask me how to unlock the first mode, I too have never heard that it is possible... ^_^;;;; ~ Polobird 07:06, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Seems legit to me. An honorable edit backed by an resource even. I'm afraid I don't quite understand what you're asking of me however. -Zero 14:07, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

bicycle award

It would seem that you've taken an inappropriate liberty with an award on your user page; the original award was of a bicycle, not an Exceptional newcomer award. As there is obviously a considerable difference, I have restored it. --Moby Dick 08:15, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Considerable difference...? I was under the impression they were different awards utilized for the same purpose in regards for newcomers. Thank you for pointing that out, I changed it because the Butterfly was so much more visually appealling. -Zero 09:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Upon furthur inspection, your first diff isn't inapporiate whatsoever. That statement is a little bit naughty. It was merely an conversion of my awards into an neater format, and you neglected to assume good faith. Note I omitted to say the award was an Newcomer award, I simply replaced it with butterfly image. As such, I've reverted. Please don't make assumptions such as this again without proper discussion, its utterly disgusting and violating of another's intregirty. Words fail me. -Zero 11:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

You are, of course, free to use a gallery format. However, in that diff you also changed the image and the caption to the award. As to your view that the bicycle is an exceptional newcomer award... — well, that would appear to be your own view; one you should not assume to be that of another. I suggest that you restore the original form of the award. To not do so amounts to awarding yourself an "Exceptional Newcomer" award. You could always award it to yourself as long as you give yourself credit.

And I do agree with you that "Wards" fail you. --Moby Dick 12:05, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Unbelievible. You neglected to even understand my proceeding post at all. I am not tranforming the bicycle award into an Exceptional newcomer award. Its simply there because I like the picture more, and I proceeded to change the caption to fit the image. You can't ride an butterfly. If you can find an better-looking image to swith it out with, I invite you to do so. The drab balck-and-white bicycle simply doesn't sit with me. -Zero 12:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

If you do change the award, please remove Davenbelle's signature, to show that it is not the award he gave you. Prodego 13:17, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I merely changed the image. There's nothing incorrect towards the substitution of an image. -Zero 13:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, however it is not what Davenbelle gave you, so should not be signed by her. Prodego 13:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

You've missed the point. I'm afraid this isn't an laudible cause for complaint. -Zero 13:27, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

• Amounts to forgery..? Oh this is just so much tosh. Take Moby Dick's conversation with me on my talk page:

• Moby Dick falsely accuses me of inappopriate liberties on my own userpage . He tells me its okay to vandalize my web page under an act of honesty. He seemed to have a problem. He wanted the award kept but he had thought up some process-based reason why he should replace it without asking me the true purpose of the substitution. A good, solid bureaucratic reason no doubt, but not a reason for him to decide. It appears to me, the exact opposite of what I thought was merited on an simple transmogrification for my preferences.

• I explained my view to him --that I merely wished an better image of my own preference. I added some emphasis on the purpose of the fact it was my userpage and I withold the right to merely change an image. It was an incorrect fallacy to state I was claiming the newcomer award.

• He replied that he thought that that didn't matter and I was still claiming the award (hoo boy!) . He raised a good point about me playing with captions as an motive for mischief. He said that he thought that this was nonsense (it isn't, and I think that it's significant to note that it wasn't even the intention he summerized). He said I playing around with award images amounts to "forgery" (duh!)

• I explained the true meaning of my transmogrification . I corrected him on some points of fact (I find I have to do this a lot, it wasn't just the oringinal post). I edited my prior comment to fix an spelling mistake which he mocked me on as well. He also trollishly asked me if I recieved all my awards this way. This really is not an nice thing to do, but asssume good faith...

• I then proceed to remove the trollish comment . Moby replied that he hadn't a clue what I was talking about and proceeds to replace it with another mockerous comment about an nice conversation . He again tried to reason by incorrect analogy. He thought that any attempts to change images was wrong and therefore any attempt to sabotage my userpage would be justified, only to find himself reverted. Nice try, no banana . He went on a bit. He said I didn't understand the meaning of an award.

But now Moby Dick seems to believe that we were just talking past another, and no serious discussion took place. He also seems to have mistakenly placed the management of my own user and talkpage as his own business. How odd. I believed that I had indicated that I understood his qualms and agreed with them, and that it had nothing to do with the encyclopedia, as well as any of his concern. -Zero 13:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

From wiktionary:

forgery

2. The act of forging, fabricating, or producing falsely; esp., the crime of fraudulently making or altering a writing or signature purporting to be made by another; the false making or material alteration of or addition to a written instrument for the purpose of deceit and fraud; as, the forgery of a bond.

Technically what you are doing is the definition of forgery, the bolding is mine. You should not change someone else's comment, regardless of where it is.

Prodego 14:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

The point of an award is to convey an the sense of gratification, due givings, sense of gratitude, or the like. I changing the text to reflect the image leaves this sprit intact, and futhurmore, I never changed Davenbelle's signature. I am not the only editor to do this, and it does not convey dishonesty, fradulent claims or ulterior motives. Absolutely not.

In the larger picture, it also neglects to include anyone else in its change, it does not harm the community, and certainly not the encyclopedia. I hate to say this, but it really isn't your concern (and you are incorrect in your thesis regarding the action anyway). Please return to the construction of the encyclopedia and leave these nonsensical comments off my talkpage. Please feel free to return when it actually involves the well-being of the site. -Zero 14:54, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

For the record

I would just like to state, for the record, that User:Dschor was banned for a particularly long time, for particularly harmless edits. No vandalism. No page blanking. No malicious article edits. No personal attacks. Simply for creating a template to describe an interest in an encyclopedic subject. If this is the way[REDACTED] intends to treat editors who act in good faith to improve the encyclopedia, the project will self-destruct. --67.168.241.139 04:42, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I am very shocked by the behavior of certain parties towards Dschor. As you know I attempted to inquire if he could at the least prepare edits in his namespace for the expansion of the encyclopedia. I still feel that his actions were indefensible, but I think I could have worded my criticism in more temperate language, and he did not deserve such an block. Your phrase "creating a template to describe an interest in an encyclopedic subject" is pretty close to how I feel about the affair, with the exception that I don't believe that he did it in ignorance, nor do I completely believe he did it in good faith. I find this block on Dschor completely incomprehensible, and the fact he is unallowed to prepare constructive edits laughable. -Zero 10:02, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I take it back. You're an sockpuppet of Dschor, and you're circumventing your ban. Please don't do that again, its utterly disguisting and sneaky. Quite beyond belief. -Zero 22:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

SNK template

Lemme know if you need help turning it into a proper template. Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 11:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I do not know what you are talking about. -Zero 11:30, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

This. -Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 11:57, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I leave it in my userspace so I can customize it and subst it to fit the situation as needed. It allows the template to operate on an varible basis in line with articles. Thanks for the offer. -Zero 11:58, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tony Sidaway/Workshop (Again)

I have just readded three proposed remedies to Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Tony Sidaway/Workshop, which had been removed. I have also refactored these comments to

• remove personal attacks, irrelevant comments, and bickering
• make the page readable and usable for the arbcom, as Minspillage recently has done.

As your words appear on that page, I'm letting you know so that you may review the changes. I have tried not to let any bias or POV I may have color my summaries; however, it's a wiki, so if you think I've misrepresented your words, please fix them. Respectfully yours, InkSplotch 14:42, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi Megaman

I'll keep an eye on his edits...right now it appears to be fairly slow...I didn't notice the personal attacks though...but I didn't look very throughly perhaps.--MONGO 02:05, 26 February 2006 (UTC)