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Multiple renames, page moves etc...

Hello there, I see you've been really busy over the last few hours making lots of changes to pages within the general area of paganism. There are really so many that there isn't an obvious central place to discuss them all with you, hence coming here! You've made some quite fundamental changes - eg this and this without discussing them on talk pages first - could I suggest that you discuss big moves like this first? (Your obvious redirects are a hood idea and much less problematic, good work on those). You may find that if you move first without discussion, your changes will just get quickly and frustratingly reverted. Best wishes, Kim Dent-Brown 21:31, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear Kim Dent-Brown, first of all sorry for possible language mistakes; but English is not my mother tongue. Regarding my edits, I am a bold user, and when I think my edits are good, and well sourced, I do not hesitate in making them. :) --Bhlegkorbh (talk) 22:34, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

As for the move of Germanic Neopaganism to Heathenism (contemporary religion) you may find a recent proposal here. I've moved it to a far more popular term and adopted the terminology regulations discussed here. --Bhlegkorbh (talk) 22:41, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

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I did not mean to offend you

Sir, I did not mean to offend with with my request for a reversion on the Germanic Neopaganism page. Personally, I would prefer the term Odinism for our movement because this has been the name used since the 19th century. In my opinion, attempts to reconstruct Anglo-Saxon or Germanic paganism are wrong headed because we have only Icelandic sources, but people stopped the Odinism heading here years ago.

I hope we can work together on future edits.

--ThorLives (talk) 23:18, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

We are both Germanic Heathens and we should co-work rather than quarrel. I am not offended and I respect the Odinic Rite and the Odinist movement since Odinist groups are doing good job all over Europe. However Odinism is not the only Germanic Neopagan religions; there are many currents and individuals which do not identify as "Odinist". I am one of them, I am a Heathen (and European) identifying neither as an Odinist nor as an Asatruar. "Heathenry" has spread as an umbrella term for ALL Germanic Neopagans, being them Odinist, Asatruar, Urglaawers, Theodsmen, or any other subgroup, and it is often preferred over "Germanic Neopagan" because "Neopagan" is mostly used by Wiccans and related to Wiccan groups and publications.

I suggest you to make the Odinism wiki-entry an article writing what distinguishes the Odinist movement from Asatru, Forn Sidhr and the other branches of Heathenry. --Bhlegkorbh (talk) 17:47, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

That is good that we can cooperate.

Our traditions are different, however, In my opinion, the umbrella term is Odinism. Asatru was a new word coined in the 1970's, but it can also be used as an umbrella term.

Terms such as "pagan" or "heathen" are not really names, but they were insults hurled at the followers of the old gods. Indeed, if we properly translate pagan or heathen, they mean country dweller or "hick"

Of course, I cannot insist on "Odinism" as the title of this article, because it would disturb some, such as yourself. Misplaced Pages is based on consensus. It does make anyone 100% happy because it is a compromise.

--ThorLives (talk) 05:44, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Restoration of external link

I agree with and support your restoration of this link, and would have done so myself if I had seen it first. But I have to say you could and should have done it more carefully, at least in respect of the edit summary. You're entitled to think whatever you like about other editors, but to use words like "lies" and "maiming" is just not productive. What you did was right; the way you did it was not.

I am trying hard to act as an honest broker between editors with strongly held views, but I need some help from you as well in trying to generate a collegial and productive atmosphere. You can't blame "the other side" without taking a look at how your own editing actions are affecting the situation. Kim Dent-Brown 12:57, 24 November 2011 (UTC)