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University of Kansas "Ancient Central America" course assignment
This is just a heads-up to let you know that I'm once again having students create Misplaced Pages entries for a course this semester. I've posted the information for them here:
Dwapara Yuga / Yoekteshwar
Hi Doug, I'm Robert ( RobCZ ) and I think the last correction must have been five years ago on the particular year we are in according to this interpretation of Yoekteshwar. Swami Yoekteshwar wrote his Holy Science in 194 Dwapara ( 1894 ), thus currently we are in 316 Dwapara. Kind regards Robert, Amsterdam, Holland
Checkuser
Could you run a quick checkuser for me, please? I have a probable DUCK sock of an indef blocked user and I need to confirm. The sock is Sjick14, the indef-blocked user is CaptainHog. SPI at the far bottom will have the most current IP and account information, of course. Also, could you check for any sleepers while you are at it? Diannaa usually handles these, but she is offline at the moment. Much appreciated. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 13:06 on September 3, 2016 (UTC)
- I filed an SPI related to the above request. Just letting you know. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 15:25 on September 3, 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you! - Neutralhomer • Talk • 16:09 on September 3, 2016 (UTC)
"New Account" and archaeologist John Marshall
Hi Doug. This "new account", created a few days ago, seems to be implying WP:OR and non-WP:RS synthesizes en masse, cross-article, and is using the findings of John Marshall, a British Archaeologist of some 100 years ago as the main "source" for these claims, e.g. . I reverted some of his edits already, but I can't keep up with it I'm afraid. He's mass uploading images with OR captions as well on Wikimedia.. Something should be done about this I believe. As you're often involved with such matters, I thought that this might interest you. Bests - LouisAragon (talk)
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Books and Bytes - Issue 19
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Books & Bytes
Issue 19, September–October 2016
by Nikkimaria, Sadads and UY Scuti
- New and expanded donations - Foreign Affairs, Open Edition, and many more
- New Library Card Platform and Conference news
- Spotlight: Fixing one million broken links
19:07, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Please comment on Misplaced Pages:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Misplaced Pages:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2016. Legobot (talk) 04:29, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
169.241.60.136
- 169.241.60.136 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)
This IP that you blocked back in September has begun vandalizing once again (see the edit filter log for their most recent edits), could you please initiate another block? Thanks. Yinf (talk) 21:24, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
LGBT symbols
Can you semi protect LGBT symbols? There's a ton of socking and stuff going on today for some reason. EvergreenFir (talk) 21:35, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you! EvergreenFir (talk) 22:06, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
User rights
Thank you for this. About other Mmhuang user rights: I have checked, and it is weird, he seems just be a WP:EXTENDEDCONFIRMED user, but he claims a lot more, when verifying his suppose autopatrolled rights it appears tied to another user, User:Modernist, why? --Osplace 02:19, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Talk page stalker: he's not autopatrolled, so the way the search link is set up, it interprets it as "find the first autopatrolled user starting with Mmhuang or later", and just finds the next user alphabetically after Mmhuang who is autopatrolled. That happens to be Modernist. There's no tie between Mmhuang and Modernist. --Floquenbeam (talk) 03:18, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- Understood. Thank you. --Osplace 04:38, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
Ip
Greetings! An ip has been going around soapboxing on various pages and ignoring WP:NOTSEEALSO . He/she has also eschewed discussion and avoided WP:BRD. Could you please keep an eye out? Kind Regards-- Soupforone (talk) 03:54, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
- The user above, Soupforone, has been removing cited material and valid edits without providing proper explanation or reasoning to do so. He is also arbitrarily removing accurate links in the See Also section of some articles which violate WP:NOTSEEALSO due to unfounded POV pushing and not based on any sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.238.79.44 (talk) 09:39, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
The Signpost: 4 November 2016
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Re Sodom and Gomorrah
See also Special:Contributions/Christian_Mythology. I know from Talk:List of theological demons that that IP is the same user. While I have no problem with Sodom and Gomorrah being labelled mythical, to assert that it's only Christian mythology and completely forget about the other Abrahamic religions makes it hard for me to believe that the user is doing this out of neutrality. Ian.thomson (talk) 10:31, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- I agree. I only reverted due to the edit warring. Hard to AgF here. I see the IP has stopped, which at least is good. Probably won't end well. Doug Weller talk 11:01, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Ack, God, I don't know what's wrong with me. The IP/Christian Mythology was adding the bit "mythical," and Melissaharvey89 was removing it. If it's the same person (which I can't justify now), it'd have to be a troll. Still, both users are, well, probably better suited for other activities. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:25, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Sodom and Gomorrah
Hello, Doug Weller. I do not know whether you are watching the article Sodom and Gomorrah or not, but a brand new account has just shown up and is making the same edit that Melissaharvey89 was making. See here. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 23:47, 5 November 2016 (UTC)
- Blocked, reblocked, realized that it's not the IP (though Harvey and the IP/Christian Mythology maybe need to hold off on religion articles). Ian.thomson (talk) 00:28, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Europaische Stammtafeln
Concerning this source, it appear to have been written by;
Detlev Schwennicke (* 31 January 1930 in Guben ; † 24. December 2012 in Berlin ) was a Protestant minister and editor of European pedigrees.
Schwennicke spent his childhood and youth in Brandenburg and Prussia . His theological studies he graduated in Mainz , Göttingen and Bonn. In 1958 he arrived at the Palatine Lutheran Church , where for 12 years held a pastorate in Green City. In 1970 he joined the Rhenish Church and was pastor in Dusseldorf and Wetzlar , he in 1992 retired . In 1978 Schwennicke from the estate of Frank Baron Freytag von Loringhoven the Volume V of the "European family trees. The "History of the European States". Afterwards, the work of him was placed as a new third person. It was now called "European Tribals. History of the European states. Founded by Wilhelm Karl Prinz at Isenburg, continued by Frank Baron Freytag of Loringhoven. New episode. Edited by Detlev Schwennicke. "The series was under his aegis published from 1980 to 2011, Volume XXIX appeared posthumously , 2013.
Since 2008 he lived with his wife in Berlin. The couple had four children and eight grandchildren. Buried it is on the cemetery at Grunewald.
I believe this would disqualify Europaische Stammtafeln as a reliable source for Misplaced Pages. Your thoughts? --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:40, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Please comment on Misplaced Pages talk:Criteria for speedy deletion
The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Misplaced Pages talk:Criteria for speedy deletion. Legobot (talk) 04:30, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Talk:Archaeology and the Book of Mormon
A couple of thoughts, in the hope they might help:
I was going to respond to the dispute on the article talk page, but thought it would be unnecessary escalation. TaivoLinguist then responded . I'm glad that didn't set off another round of escalating comments.
What I was going to write was that Dig deeper has basically decided to refuse to work cooperatively with others until an unrelated issue is resolved. Pointing that out could have provoked a response, so I decided against commenting.
After all these years, I'm still struggling to find a way to both de-escalate disputes like this while focusing editors back to cooperative, policy-focused, consensus-building. Some intervening editors just focus on the people involved, treating disputes as a clash of egos, putting the policy and content concerns aside. While I do believe that the personal conflict needs to be de-escalated before the content disputes can be addressed, the approach tends toward compromising policies and article content. Locking articles works, but it's seen as extreme. Asking editors to take breaks is so infrequent that the suggestion escalates most any conflict. I wish there were better, widely accepted options.
Thanks you for the very difficult work you do for Misplaced Pages! --Ronz (talk) 16:47, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
RFPP thread
Hello, hope you are doing well. You may have a look here. --Tito Dutta (talk) 17:19, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #234
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Thanks to everyone who celebrated the birthday by organizing or attending to an event, letting a message on Wikidata or on the social networks, writing a story or creating a present!
Here's the list of the birthday presents from the community and development team:
- d:Template:User Wikidata birthday 2016 (Pigsonthewing)
- A new version of the map showing all the Wikidata items with geolocalisation (Addshore)
- Wikidata's 4th birthday logo (Incabell)
- A new release of the Misplaced Pages and Wikidata Tools for Google Spreadsheets add-on has made working with Wikidata a lot easier for Google Sheets users. (Tomayac)
- A guide to SPARQL and the Wikidata Query Service (TweetsFactsAndQueries)
- Four new types of charts for the Query Service: line chart, bar chart, scatter chart and area chart! Read more and try examples in the documentation (Jonas)
{{#statements:…}}, a new parser function is currently in development with better features: try it here! (Thiemo, Wikidata dev team and volunteers)- Search field added in Scholia, a tool to create scholarship profiles (fnielsen)
- Technical documentation about Wikibase for PHP and JS scripts (Ladsgroup and Jonas)
- new feature for the graph view in the Query Service: it can now browse the properties of items. see in the video (Jonas)
- graph builder tool for the query service to create and export graphs (demo video) (Jonas, [[d:user:Smalyshev (WMF)|Smalyshev)
- d:Module:PropertyPath and d:Template:Show Path Items (TomT0m)
- Everything is connected, a knowledge game based on Wikidata and Commons (list of levels) (Denny)
- Discussions
- New request for comments: Editing descriptions from Misplaced Pages Android app
- Other Noteworthy Stuff
- Music in Canada at 150 Misplaced Pages Project, a multifaceted campaign to increase the amount and quality of content about Canadian music in Misplaced Pages and Wikidata
- 400,000,000th edit was made.
- The average amount of statements per item became higher than five and is still growing.
- Wikidata entities usage on Wikimedia projects
- Did you know?
- Newest properties: DRÚSOP ID, code, encoding, BALaT image ID, DocCheck Flexikon De ID, DocCheck Flexikon En ID, biography at the Landtag of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Cellosaurus ID, World Spider Catalog ID, Squash Info ID, MSC ID, Yahoo! Japan Talent Database ID, Bandcamp artist ID, French National Assembly Lobbyist ID, BanQ author ID, statistical leader, Sandbox-Monolingual text II
- Query examples:
- Continents on Wikidata (All eleven of them) (source)
- Sluices on the river "Vilaine" in Brittany (source)
- Countries with most cities named after saints (source)
- Disney characters who share name with their actors (source)
- 204 items that cite themselves (source)
- Statements with two references where one source cites the other (source)
- Development
- Stable interface policy update
- More work on federation in order to be able to use Wikidata's items and properties to describe media files on Wikimedia Commons in the future (phabricator:T149580)
- Worked on first version of Lexeme entity type (phabricator:T148139)
- Worked more on linking values in Lua and the property parser function instead of just returning the label (phabricator:T142940) You can test it here: https://de.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org/Statements
- Improved map layer colors in the query service (phabricator:T148022)
- Improved size of map markers in the query service (phabricator:T148496)
- Upcoming: quantity changes
- Worked more on automated sitelinks for Wiktionary (phabricator:T987) Test system is coming in the next days.
You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.
- Monthly Tasks
- Hack on one of these.
- Help develop the next summary here!
- Contribute to a Showcase item
- Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
- Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
- Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
- Comment on property proposals: all open proposals - proposals needing attention
Question/favour
Hi Doug,
I was wondering if you could revoke Maslowsneeds' talk page access. They're mounting to incivility and personal attacks depending on how a user looks at it. Claiming that you're enjoying the block is a personal attack to me. That's just me. Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} ♑ 13:22, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
- I don't agree. Blocked users are irritable, and not likely to be receptive to advice. I haven't seen Maslowsneeds write on his page other than in response. Please don't post on the page and the problem goes away. Bishonen | talk 16:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC).
withdrawel
Hi Doug,
I decided to withdraw my request at ARCA as you suggested, I do not know the withdrawal pocess so I did my best by editing the request info at ARCA. KINGOFTO (talk) 16:21, 8 November 2016 (UTC)