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- Got a public domain one from 1839. --Wetman 20:39, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Historical innacuracy
'Napoleon III didn't keep his promises to Cavour. Napoleon seized Lombardy. In 1860, however, Sardinia gained Lombardy from France in exchange for Savoie and Nice.'
This is nonsense, Louis-Napoleon didn't keep his promise to fight the Austrians until all of the Kingdom of Lombardia-Veneto was in their hands, but this is not made clear. After the bloody battles of Magenta and Solferino he got anxious about dragging the war out and made peace. Austria refused outright to cede any territory to the Savoyards. The French agreed with Cavour that they would accept the cession of Lombardia to France from Austria and then immediately cede it again to Piemonte-Sardigna. Which they then did, in 1859, not 1860, Napoleon never 'seised' anything they merely used France as a go between in the peace deal to 'save face' for Austria.
Because the had reneged on his deal with Cavour (in which they had secretely agreed that Napoleon could have Nissa and Savoie, territories the French had long lusted after in return for getting all of Lombardia-Veneto) he allowed Vittorio-Emmanuelle II to keep Savoie and Nissa aswell as Lombardia. But in the following months (early 1860) most of north-central Italy revolted against their rulers, Firenze, Modena, Parma and the Romagna all held plebiscites which were overwhelmingly pro-Savoyard.
Whether these were real or not didn't matter but they all joined Piemonte-Sardigna. This allarmed Louis-Napoleon as he didn't want a strong Savoy on his border and so demanded that if they wanted to keep the new lands they would have to cede Savoie and Nissa. Cavour then agreed to cede them after (most likely fake) plebiscites showed around 90% wanted to join France.
I don't have an account or know anything about editing articels but this point about Napoleon really needs changing. - SeeK100
Kingdom of Sardinia
..In the 19th century the alternative name Sardinia-Piedmont came in use.... That's not true: until 1861 was always called, officially, Kingdom of Sardinia. --Shardan 17:16, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
Kingdoms or giudicati ?
According Mr Francesco Cesar Casula, one of the most important italian experts about Sardinia mediaeval history, in his book La Storia di Sardegna and after in the other Breve storia di Sardegna ( ISBN 88-7138-065-7), at page 85, writing about Kingdom (or giuducato) of Calari, says: come gli altri tre giudicati, il regno di Calari era anch’ esso uno Stato sovrano e perfetto, perchè aveva la facoltà di stipulare accordi internazionali ...(...) ( in en.... like the other three giudicati, the kingdom (it: Regno) of Calari was a sovereign and perfect State because he was able to stipulate international treaties...(…). I think that in Misplaced Pages , according to Mr Casula studies , we can affirm that the giudicati they were real kingdoms. --Shardan 12:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)