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Christchurch mosque shootings

My bad, but despite that RFC it doesn't seem to have been included over the last few months. - Snori (talk) 02:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Snori, It is my bad. I should've pointed out that there is a RfC that says to include the name in the edit summary. The reason why it was removed is because susperp parameter was deleted from the infobox template later. There was an opposition in the article to use the perpetrator parameter because it implies that the person is found guilty of the charges(and if he is mentally ill, he will not be guilty) but someone suggested in another article to use assailant parameter instead of suspect or perpetrator since it doesnt imply that he is found guilty.--SharabSalam (talk) 03:08, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

Kurdistan Workers Party

Hi, I am trying to resolve this also here at your talk page. An Euronews source will not be a source strong enough to contradict an UN source that the UN does not list the PKK as a terror organization. The sources are very easy to access. Just type "designated terror organisations of the UN" in the google tab and you'll find this. This is not mentioning original research. Original research is unsourced info. It is also not a primary source. This is a source on the topic of UN designated terror organizations and well founded with research. And there the PKK doesn't figure. Where the PKK is included in a terror list, I even provide sources, which you also revert, like for the USA and Australia. I won't revert you, but you can't include wrong info into[REDACTED] even after it is reverted and you have been adverted on the talk page the info is wrong. From my point of view you should also not delete sources that you don't read. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 12:57, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

I take the discussion to here, so the others don't get bothered too much. I can't find any UN page that designates the PKK a terrorist organization. Not one. I went through a bunch of UN papers. The source I mention is a resource for lecturers. You can read it here in the source you say you couldn't access.
Then you also reverted my edit on the foundation of the PKK with info about the duration of the congress and its integrants. The party organ Serxwebun...

You reverted the sources I added concerning the terror listing of Australia and the USA... Also reverted a (by notice) solicited source about the Y-Star

I readded the info about the foundation, Serxwebun, the Y-Star and the source for the terror listing of the USA. But he, this info was all sourced. All sourced. Please, read the sources before you remove them.
Thank you tough for your attempt to provide good info to the interested. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 14:43, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

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Arabian sea

i am editing Arabian Sea please do not revert it until it is more documented 

 05:26, 19 December 2019 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talk • contribs)
Basp1 you can work at your sandbox. Currently all you have been adding is content sourced to Misplaced Pages and a persian blog. Read WP:RS, WP:SPS, WP:SNYTH and WP:FRINGE.--SharabSalam (talk) 06:00, 19 December 2019 (UTC
  1. the books that have been mentioned are very important and reliable source in the world. you seem to be against any reliable source that mentioned the facts. you think that this sources Are not reliable and you are reliable ?? you should prove it :Yaqut al-Hamawi mentioned it as Akhzar sea Ibn Khordadbeh ,

Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi , Muhammad al-Idrisi,Istakhri ,Mahmud al-Kashgari ,Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad and Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi had mentioned the sea as Persian sea and sea of Mokran.there are many maps and atlases which prove the names other than Arabian sea in the past centuries .there are a lot of famous facts and documents.

some of the midival map including the map by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli, 1693 had mentioned the Persian sea and also Makran. thumb|The western part of the Indian Ocean, by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli, 1693 from his system of global gores the Makran coast

  1. thumb|The western part of the Indian Ocean, by Vincenzo Maria Coronelli, 1693 from his system of global gores the Makran coast
  1. thumb|Basra bahrefars — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
  1. thumb|TabulaRogeriana upside-down

] i will bring for you many maps and documents please wait — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talk • contribs) 06:47, 19 December 2019 (UTC) 

 06:24, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Basp1 yep, these are not reliable sources and also original research. The sources you gave in the article were Misplaced Pages and this blog. The
(Just to make things clear, Basp1 has edited his first comment adding more images since I replied)
  • Your deletion without reason proved that are not a neutral person and you should not remove my refrences

It is up to managers to decide about this part. so keep quite. look to the map in this page for example this:

Basra-ps64

Heinrich Kiepert. Imperia Persarum et Macedonum. 1903
Soulier, E.; Andriveau-Goujon, J. Anciens Empires Jusqua Alexandre. 1838
Persian(IRAN) Empire 1747

and the maps in this page : 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Basp1 (talk • contribs) 05:19, 21 December 2019 (UTC)


also see this documents : The Arabian Sea historically and geographically had many other different names by Muslim travelers and European geographers such as: Akhzar Sea, Persian Sea,, Chah Bahar, Makran Sea, Sindhu Sagar, Erythraean Sea, Dera Macran, and Sindh Sea. The name of the sea is disputed amongst some historians in Iran and Pakistan. They collectively argue and believe that the name Arabian Sea was first used on maps due to colonialism in the past 400 years. Among historians, travellers and geographers of the Islamic era, many of them writing in Arabic or persian from the 9th to the 17th century, Ibn Khordadbeh, Ibn al-Faqih, Ibn Rustah, Sohrab, Ramhormozi, Abu Ishaq Ibrahim ibn Muhammad al-Farisi al Istakhri, Abu al-Hasan Ali ibn al-Husayn ibn Ali al-Mas'udi, Al-Mutahhar ibn Tahir al-Maqdisi (d. 966), Ibn Hawqal, Al-Muqaddasi, Ibn Khaldun, Mohammad ibn Najub Bekiran, Abu Rayhan Biruni, Muhammad al-Idrisi, Yaqut al-Hamawi, Zakariya al-Qazwini, Abu'l-Fida, Al-Dimashqi, Hamdollah Mostowfi, Al-Nuwayri, Ibn Batutta, Katip Çelebi and other sources have used the terms, "Bahr-i Mohit", "Bahr-i Mohit i Ajam", "Bahr-al-'Ajami", "Bahr-i-Fars", "Dera-i-Fars"(Persian), and "Bahr-i Mokran/Mecran", "Bahr-i Al Akhzar" (green) to refer to the current Arabian sea. ("Bahr-in Arabic means Sea" and Mohit means ocean) none of them referred to as Arabian sea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maahmaah (talk • contribs) 12:25, 14 April 2012

references

References

  1. ,(par34-35)
  4. Geographica Indica - The Arabian Sea
  6. 1794, Orbis Veteribus Notus by Jean Baptiste Bourguignon d'Anville
  7. National Atlas of India Abridged Edition Edited by Dr. P.Nag. Lakshadweep sea(Arabian sea). National atlas and thematic mapping organization department of science & technology government of India 2002]
  10. "Al-Massalek wa al-Mamalek", Leiden edition, 1889. p. 233
  11. The abrdiged "Al-Buldan", Leiden, 1885, p. 8
  12. Ibn Rustah, Kitāb al-A'lāk an-Nafīsa, ed. M. J. De Goeje, Bibliotheca Geographorum Arabicorum , Leiden, E. J. Brill, 1891/1892. p. 81
  13. Ajayeb al-Aqalim al-Saba ila Nehayate al-Mara, (Vienne: 1929), p. 59. 9th century AD.
  14. Nakhoda Bozorg ibn Shahriyar Ramhormozi was another Persian geographer of the classical Islamic era, "Ajayeb al-Hind", ed: M. Davis, Leiden 1886, p. 41
  15. "Massalek al-Mamalek", ed.: De M.J. Goeje, Leiden 1927, p. 28
  16. "Muruj adh-dhahab wa ma'adin al-jawhar (The Meadows of Gold and Mines of Gems)", English Translation by Aloys Sprenger, Vol I, (London: 1841), p. 259
  17. al-Bad’ wa-l Tarikh, (Paris: 1907) Tom IV, p. 58.
  18. "The Oriental Geography of Ebn Hawkal", Translated by Sir Williams Ouseley (London: 1800) p. 62; "Surat al-Arḍ"(Leiden 1938), Vol I, p. 42.
  19. Ahsan al-Taqasim fi Ma’rifat al-Aqalim. Ed: De A.J. Goeje, (Leiden 1906), p. 17.
  20. "Jahan Nama", Vol I. p. 44. .
  21. "Al-Tafhim le-awa’el Sena al-Tanjim" ed.: Jalal al-Din Homai (Tehran: 1318 Hijri Sola Calendar), p. 167. Also in "Qanun Masudi"(Heydarabad, 1955), Vol. II. p. 558.
  22. "Geographic d’Edirisi" traduite de l’Arabe en Francais par P. Amedee Jaulert (Recueil des voyages et des memoires publiees par la Societe de Geographie), (Paris: 1840), Vols. VI and VI. "Nuzhat al-Mushtaq fi Ikhtraq al-Afar", (Rome : 1878). p. 9
  23. "mu’jam al-Buldan",(Cairo: 1906), Vol. 2, p. 68.
  24. "Athar al-Bilad" (Gutingen: 1848), p. 104.
  25. "Taqwim al-Buldan", Geographie d’Aboulfeda traduite de l’Arab par M. Reinaud, 2 Vols. (Paris: 1848), Vol 1, p. 23.
  26. ^ Quoted also in Mohammad Javad Mashkoor in an article titled "Nam-i Khalij Fars" in the proceeding of the "Seminar on Khalij-e-Fars" (Tehran: 1964). p. 46.
  27. "Nuzhat al-Qolub", ed: Mohammad Dabir Sayaqi, (Tehran: 1336 Hijri Solar Year), p. 164.
  28. "The Travels of Ibn Babutta", translated from the abrdiged Arabic MMS of Cambridge by the Rev. Samuel Lee(Cambridgde: 1824), p. 56

Thanks!! Appreciate your reply. Glad we could discuss this. Thanks. —Sm8900 (talk) 14:28, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!! Glad we could discuss this. See you. —Sm8900 (talk) 14:29, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

question re draft

hi. what do you think of this? Draft:Timeline_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War_(September–December_2019). --Sm8900 (talk) 15:59, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Hi Sm8900, it looks sensible. Great work!--SharabSalam (talk) 08:22, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
that's terrific. thanks! appreciate it. --Sm8900 (talk) 19:38, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
hi. happy holidays!!! I posted a link in the article history of the main timeline for this topic, to let others see and review the draft. I don't know, it just seemed like a good idea. I enjoy getting a little discussion now and then, anyway. I hope all's well with you. thanks!! --Sm8900 (talk) 14:53, 26 December 2019 (UTC)


new edits on item

quote: "Now who will stand on either hand, And keep the bridge with me?"

cool quote, isn't it? here's some other sources on the historical event that it describes.

anyway, I'm editing that timeline article for Syria for late 2019 now, just letting you know. lots of active conflict going on, unfortunately, including new waves of refugees. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 16:57, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

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LGBT related deletion discussions

Is there such a category to be added to Blow Buddies? If so can you show me how to add it?Ndołkah☆ (talk) 13:23, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Ndołkah, I dont know. I can't find a category called LGBT. See the lists here . You can sort deletions using scripts. I use this one . You can easily install it by placing {{subst:iusc|User:EnterpriseyBot/delsort.js}} on Special:MyPage/common.js or Special:MyPage/skin.js. You need to use the desktop version if you want to use it. You can use it by clicking on "More" at the top of the deletion discussion then click "Delsort'.--SharabSalam (talk) 13:43, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
(comment from a passer-by who stumbled on this conversation) Ndołkah I think the closest option to a LGBT deletion sorting category is probably "Sexuality and gender". I've added it to the AfD. Hope this helps! —{{u|Goldenshimmer}} (they/them)｜Talk｜Contributions 23:36, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

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Some issues with current Wiki Quran articles

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Koreangauteng, you might find WP:UNDUE, WP:SPS, WP:OR, WP:PRIMARY. I would also remind you to not engage in polemic posts against me. Me being Muslim has nothing to do with your bad editing and using unreliable sources.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 02:06, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

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Please Stop

Sharabsalam, You have twice reverted my edit on Iraqi protests (2019–present). The edit has two reliable sources and your revert is a violation of Misplaced Pages rules and regulations. Please undo your revert. Alex-h (talk) 00:06, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

new draft

hi. we have a new draft, at Draft:Timeline of the Syrian Civil War (January–April 2020). thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 00:52, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Saudi Arabia

Hello, Regarding your revert , the first part about tourists visas may be related, but the writer of the paragraph shifted the topic to a criticism about some influencers attending a music concert, which can be written in a relatable section. UA3 (talk) 13:38, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

UA3, The section is called "Political, economic, and social changes of the 2010s". The content is about singers who went Saudi Arabia to sing for the first time. This is related to "social changes" part. (Do you agree on that?). The criticism is therefore related.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 13:49, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
I moved the part about criticism to singers to Human Rights section, there will be a lot of concerts with criticisms, will we keep adding them to section about the economics and social changes? UA3 (talk) 13:57, 3 January 2020 (UTC)

Ilhan Omar

I do not think it is prudent to make large and obviously controversial edits while the RfC is ongoing and without discussing on the talk-page. --JBL (talk) 18:50, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Joel B. Lewis, Not sure if they are controversial and they are not related to the RfC. The RfC is about the lead section.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 19:45, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for responding to my request (at WP:NPOV/N#Regime_change_(esp._Venezuela)) and commenting on the problems going on at United States involvement in regime change. You are seeing what I am seeing. Extra eyes on what is going on at that and related articles is greatly appreciated. --David Tornheim (talk) 02:12, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

David Tornheim, I will see what I can do. I think U.S. intervention in other countries politics is in the scope of the article. I will see when I have time and intervene in the discussion.
Thank you for your work in the article. --SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 08:30, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
I will see when I have time and intervene in the discussion. LOL. Great pun. :) --David Tornheim (talk) 09:13, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

United States involvement in regime change

I understand you are from Yemen, and I deeply regret if my edit regarding its respective section was unfortunate. However, I would like to ask you to not hold a grudge against me because of this and evaluate each edit independently, regardless of previous ones.

That being said, I encourage you to both read my comments in its talk page and to participate in the discussion, if you wish. --Jamez42 (talk) 15:35, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Jamez42, I read them. You are not responding to what David said. backed is misleading. The U.S. planned these coups. I am following the discussion. Also, the fact that I am from Yemen had nothing to do with my revert. Please use common sense and realize that "backed-by" is not the same as "orchestrated" which is what reliable sources are saying, and you are trying to change what reliable sources are saying?.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 15:45, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
See my reply in the section. --Jamez42 (talk) 15:46, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Jamez42, I was a bit sick I am having hard times these days because of my sickness. Sorry if I annoyed you by my revert but you need to calm down and to see what other editors think. If the outcome was not in your favor do as I do, forget about it. Also please note that I didnt add the content back and will be discussing this with other editor and you when I am feeling better. I dont agree with changing the status quo ante version that you, yourself reverted to.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 16:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much; I dearly hope you get better. I'll continue to explain my position as best as possible and do my best to find the most accepted alternative. --Jamez42 (talk) 16:06, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

You are mentioned...

FYI. I mentioned here: WP:AN/I#Jamez42's_repeated_block_deletions (permalink) --David Tornheim (talk) 22:00, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Murder of Tessa Majors

If you try to change the title of the article at this page while the discussion is underway, you will find yourself at WP:ANI for edit-warring and for stalking my edits. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 00:16, 7 January 2020 (UTC) Correction: It was another editor who changed the title, so my apologies on that. However, the fact that you 1) suddenly show up at this page along with 03000 after a dispute at Ilhan Omar strongly suggests you are stalking my edits. Wikieditor19920 (talk) 00:21, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

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