Talk:Kazem Rajavi - Misplaced Pages

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Geneva or New York?

Was he Iran's UN representative at the UN HQ in NY or at Geneva? Or was he accredited for both?--Severino (talk) 10:42, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

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Bazargan was not prime minister at presidency of Banisadr. He was prime minister of provisional government 31.59.94.95 (talk) 06:28, 1 January 2016 (UTC)AHN

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Colman McCarthy's op-ed

The article accessible via ProQuest 408057298 shows that it was published in 'Lifestyle' section of the newspaper as a 'Commentary'. As a result, it is an opinion piece that does not comply with WP:NEWSORG and WP:NOTOPINION (criteria 2) and should not be use for anything more than personal opinion of Colman McCarthy with in-text attribution. Pahlevun (talk) 14:19, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

NPOV

@MA Javadi: This explanation is written per WP:RESPTAG. The fact that you insist on putting the word "renowned" in the first sentence, in a clear violation of WP:PUFFERY, speaks for itself. No matter how many sources use the word, it cannot be used in Misplaced Pages is such way. In fact, peacock terms are used for pushing a POV, which this article suffers from badly. There has been at least three instances of failed verification: . The third failed verification reads exactly –I want to stress again, exactly– like the MEK propaganda outlets. Despite there is not even one mention of Iranian position, the article repeatedly uses quotes favorable towards MEK's position in addition to direct mentions of its own positions. Aside from the "renowned" defender of human rights (the kind that supported Saddam Hussein's regime), he has been also described as "the financial and technical wizard of the MEK" , which is totally absent from this article. That sounds like a POV article. Do not remove the POV tag per WP:WNTRMT, unless the problem is resolved. Pahlevun (talk) 19:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@Pahlevun: I was the one who added the word renowned. I added it because "renowned human rights advocate" is how sources describe Kazem Rajavi, and MA Javadi looks to have added more sources that support this. WP:PUFFERY says that words like "renowned" are "often used without attribution", but here it is being used with attribution (which makes it "Verifiable information"), and you even removed the sources used for attribution, so that seems to be edit warring. If you want to mention other information that you think is absent from the article, then add this information to the article, but don't tag the article just because you feel the sources are "favorable towards MEK's position" (something which is not verified in the sources). Idealigic (talk) 10:03, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Your argument shows that you haven't read WP:PUFFERY, even once. For your information the article still lacks attribution and adding citations to your Misplaced Pages tone usage doesn't make your peacock term a fact (or "Verifiable information"). Rather than sharing what I "feel", I have thoroughly explained that this article lacks certain POVs, such as the fact that this "renowned human rights advocate" was a supporter of Saddam, and for two years, represented the regime that was harshly criticized for its human rights record during the time he was in office. Last but not the least, I am not responsible for fixing this article, as you are not as well. If you want the tag removed, include all viewpoints with due weight and then put a notice here in the talkpage. Per WP:WNTRMT, tags should not be removed when there is an ongoing discussion related to the template issue, so please don't. Pahlevun (talk) 13:11, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

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