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Notability

With regard to BWH76's flagging this as non-notable:

Zaynab Khadr's claim to notability does not ride entirely on the shoulders of her brothers. Granted, she is not the household name in Canada that Abdurahman Khadr or Omar Khadr are, but I think that her being the subject of numerous television interviews along with the Osama bin Laden connection makes this subject pass the litmus test of notability.

To be specific about it, I believe that taken together the CBC article, the CityNews article, and the Canberra Times article constitute evidence that the subject "has been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject."

I realize the argument is not so much whether all this information should be deleted, but instead about whether it should be here or in the Khadr family article. Independent of the issue of notability which I mentioned above which I think serves as a compelling enough reason for a separate article, I think there is already more than enough to discuss in the Khadr family article. --Saforrest (talk) 20:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Notability Clarification

You make a few good points - I should have been clear that I do not think that this article should be deleted, but merged as you suggest. I'd like to hear your thoughts on this, but here is where I stand on the issue:

The main reason is that I believe the article should be merged is that it fails the , specifically "Someone or something that has been in the news for a brief period is not necessarily a suitable subject for an article in their own right." Ms. Khadr's notability is derived purely through her family.

Additionally, this article seems to fit directly into the into the General Non-Valid Criteria - "That a person has a relationship with a well-known person is not a reason for a standalone article."

Yes, she has been interviewed by various sources as is documented in this article, but the reason that she has garnered any media attention (and the focus of each interview) is solely due to the actions by and the accusations of her family as opposed to anything that she may have done herself. In other words, she is not independently notable, but she should be included in another article.

As such, some of the information about Ms. Khadr may be omitted in any merge as per this policy. BWH76 (talk) 23:35, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Konrad Shourie has made it clear on a number of occasions that Zaynab Khadr is considered to be as "guilty" as the rest of the family - her name comes up in any discussion of the family - meaning this article should exist, since people will be turning to us to find out who she is. And the small amount of information that could be fairly included in an article on the family, without breaking WP:UNDUE, would really not be enough. Sherurcij 02:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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