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conflicting versions...

the sources were redirects that ended up in some Hungarian language newspaper and the others to a poorly organized ramble on Slovak history... Perhaps mr Nygaard should stop pushing his own agenda.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.248.200.10 (talk) 17:51, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Two Suggestions

First, just from the standpoint of helping the reader understand the significance of this event, IMO, the intro and opening sections could be sharpened up so that the reason for the conflict is made plainer for the general reader. I'm having trouble totally understanding why, for example, the locals were so wrought up over this to begin with.

Second, phrases like 'false apostles of Magyar culture' suggest POV-ness which should probably be avoided. Again, I get that there were two sides to this fight, but I'm not sure I could explain what the differences were. I think the first things that should be stated are what the government policy was, and why the locals were on a collision course with it.

Terry J. Carter (talk) 18:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

That version was a likely copyvio inserted completely by an IP editor of dubious track record. I'm reverting to the earlier version before his involvement, contributed by the community. Hobartimus (talk) 01:09, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I have restored some of the information (mostly names and dates) and removed the statements that seem to be original research (e.g. who "could" gain from the events). Tankred (talk) 03:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Also, You have added some quotations to the article, but with no reference. Another unsourced quotation is there since January 2008. Can anyone find the corresponding citations? If not, those supposed quotations should be removed. Tankred (talk) 04:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
For some odd reason I can't see the references and the categories right now, when I go into the edit window I see that they are there but not when just looking at the article. Hobartimus (talk) 04:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I have just fixed that. Are they all right now? Tankred (talk) 04:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes perfect now, thanks. Hobartimus (talk) 04:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Lets make one thing clear... you Hungarians who edit this page are not interested in the truth (it can never really be known) you are only interested in hate. you hate those who opposed your broken kingdom and you still cant let go of the fact that millions are now free from your rule. you are here because you hate, you are here because you cannot accept that your ancestors committed crimes against innocent people. look at any detailed census of Slovakia and you will see a population of Hungarians that is shrinking... your old are dying and the young are becoming Slovak.... I'm indifferent to it, its just a simple fact of population ecology and dynamics, soon enough it will be a distant memory and all you or any other Hungarian who dreams of the past will do is edit wiki... so edit brave magyar warriors! edit! its all that is left to you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.249.224.61 (talk) 04:28, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Why do Hungarians feel they have the right to edit this page?

According to the pathetic and hate filled Hobartimus, Slovaks were the only people involved in the Cernova violence. So why then does a Magyar feel he has the right to edit a page totally unassociated with him? Stop pushing your ow agenda! If there are two conflicting versions then make them both available and let the reader decide the truth. Or does the truth not suit your agenda? Furthermore why should the talk page be edited? it is the proper forum for opinions so leave it alone! Or are opinions threatening your agenda too?

And a message for hobartimus.... looking at the comments on your page, it really looks as most people do not appreciated your "contributions". Maybe you should find another hobby where people want you.

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