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Has Escapeeyes outed herself? check out poster 4. Purrum (talk) 10:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

Can't believe I did that! Oops. Clearly I need more coffee. Thanks for the catch.--Jeffro77 (talk) 04:01, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Demographics of Australia

Thanks, I fixed my error in Energy in Australia. I feel embarrassed of this error, but glad for your help in the discussion Talk:Demographics of Australia. I understood the numbers did not fit. But in my opinion the population growth in Australia is high with correct numbers as well. You may have interest also in my Template:World population 1990-2025. I am concerned of the World population growth, since we hit the 7 billion people in October 2011. It seems for me that the governments do not recognize the problem. It would be easier now than in 2030.40. You may have interest in: Template:World population 1990-2025. I continue the discussion on the main page. Watti Renew (talk) 14:32, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

The Deletion of the Jonathan Kern page

Hi Generic Bob,

I have a comment on the comments you and "Youreallycan" made regarding the deletion of the "Jonathan Kern" page I created. Since the page was deleted and the comment page archived, I am no longer able to write there.

I have included both of your comments below for reference, as you responded to Youreallycan's comment. I can't comment to Youreallycan's talk page because the page no longer exists.

"Yes, uncited but you know that the basic detail of the career section is factual don't you Elizabeth? That, Kern has built a successful design business Shellshock Designs Ltd. - do you have any knowledge of that, or do you dispute that? As a person that has been in multiple legal cases against the subject of this article to be seen to be attempting to remove details you know are factual would appear strange.Youreallycan (talk) 19:52, 3 December 2011 (UTC) I think it's appropriate to mention Kern's involvement in Shellshock (with "successful" if that can be cited), but as written, the section reads like advertising copy - even if true, even without Kern's other history, most of the section doesn't look to get meet notability criteria. Shellshock gets a lot of Google hits but it's not clear to me how much of that is independent coverage as opposed to self-promo & directory listings. If the article is kept, the section should probably be pruned down to about one sentence, unless notability can be established. --GenericBob (talk) 00:35, 4 December 2011 (UTC)"

I believe the basic thrust of both of your comments is that how could I possibly dispute that Jonathan Kern's business, ShellShock Designs is successful, correct? I've done my homework so I can state that Kern is merely a sales representative for the factory in China which produces the items he sells on his website. He does not own the factory in China as stated on his website, and the majority of the projects he lists on his website are not his. I was contacted by the owner of a factory in China (not the one which is presently listed on the ShellShock Designs website) who stated that Kern had obtained photos of his projects and his factory through false pretenses, then posted them on his own website stating they were his projects. I was also contacted by a potential client of ShellShock Design's who became suspicious of Kern and his business after Kern repeatedly called him over the course of a few days to inquire when he was going to wire Kern money. I was contacted by the owner of an Interior Design business in London who complained that Kern had harrassed her about obtaining another order from her after she had placed a small order with ShellShock Designs. I also studied Shellshock Designs Financial Reports for the past few years, which are public record. Last year ShellShock Designs had a net profit of the equivalent of approximately $30,000. Not exactly what you would expect by looking at the website, is it?

I am really quite surprised at how easily you editors believed the information which was listed in the career section which was recently added. Even if you didn't believe all that was written, you were taken in by it, and assumed that at least some of it was true.

I don't have a personal vendetta against Kern which was stated by at least one editor. However, since I am periodically contacted by people around the world who continue to inform me of Kern's present business practices, I feel it's important to continue informing others about him. Elizabeth Grzeszczyk (talk) 11:09, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

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