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'control trolling'

I sent this msg to the IP:

Oh sorry about that, I just look for vandalism and obviously putting gay pimp may seem like a personal attack to the person. I am deeply sorry about that, I shall either leave or check about things in future. You have taught me a lesson! I have been on here for a few weeks and have progressed a lot quickly and I still have much to learn so if you have any problem in the future with any of my edits please tell me what I have done wrong. If you messages me and said I was wrong I would have removed the warning, it has blown a bit out of proportion for an bad edit. Also it was tagged as a vandalism edit and Cluebot had previously reverted it also the edit summary saying 'he was a gay pimp' made it look like vandalism. Sorry about that. Thanks TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 3:48 pm, Today (UTC+1)

You should have told me about what I did wrong, next time I will have to report you for not assuming good faith and personal attacks as it was pure bullying. It is unacceptable and I will stand for it — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheIrishWarden (talk • contribs) 15:00, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Protip: inviting scruitiny of your edits will not end well for you*, at least not if it attracts the right kind of editor. Anyone with a background of dealing with trolls can see what you are up to. Note that neither that IP, Gareth, or me as far as I know have any connection with one another at all but it's immediately apparent to us. Egg Centric 15:05, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

*well, except in the sense that it could cause a lot of drama, which I suppose you may consider a result

P.S. If, however, I am wrong, you have nothing to worry about. I haven't got the power to block you and even if I had I wouldn't, at least not yet. You have not been sanctioned at all. Just edit productively and I will eat my hat. Egg Centric 15:09, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

I am not putting any scrutiny on my edits except the mistake I made. I really see no reason why this went so out of proportion. The user should contact me saying that I had made a mistake. I am not a troll and if you do think I am tell me your proof. I will listen to your reply and thats the last I am communicating with you. TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 15:31, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

This is the end of this, I have sought external advice and they said my user and contributions are fine and in order. I wish not to hear from any of you again. TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 17:32, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Regarding the Bill Duke edit 'gay pimp' and subsequent waves it has caused, I'd like to point out that I never received a message from TIW as described atop this section. --83.119.142.202 (talk) 14:30, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Meh, the guy obviously has a tenuous grasp on reality, see here for example - I haven't tried to impose sanctions on him, I gave him a suggestion at his request on how to avoid appearence of trolling - and there was not insertion of random letters... I explained three times to him now that the letters were an attempt at inserting the image inline in a way that HTML supports but not wiki-syntax. That's the good faith interpretation anyway. The bad faith interpreation is he's putting a trollish spin on things. But anyway I said I will stay out of this! Egg Centric 14:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you to the IP for clearing this nonsense off my page this morning before I got to it. The daft thing about it is, that TIW has copied something that he originally posted on your page addressed to you,and pasted it on mine yesterday afternoon, and then commented on it as if I had been the originator of the expression "... a blatant concern troll." – but we all know that its originator is User:Egg Centric. TIW really must pay more attention to what he posts, how he posts and his style of writing. I repeat, he has no place here. I can confirm that none involved here, either talking to or about TIW, have had any previous communication. Kind regards to all of you, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 16:43, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 15:36, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

From your conduct, as well as the content of your messages recently it occurs to me that an alternative to the troll theory is that you're about twelve. In which case I suggest you come back in a few years time. Nevertheless so long as you aren't doing anything harmful you won't hear from me again, although I can't speak for my "friends" - I doubt that the IP is going to be happy although if he doesn't suffer (like the two of us it seems) from last-word-itis then he may decide discretion is the best part of valour, 'n all that. Egg Centric 15:40, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Please see WP: YOUNG. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 22:01, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Are you saying I shouldn't be gueesing at his age, or that I shouldn't be having an issue with "editing while young"? If the latter, I have no problem with precocious young editors (at least in principle) but I haven't the slightest compunction in expecting from them the same standards that I would from an adult. Those standards are just not on display here. Egg Centric 22:21, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm trying to say that's it's fine to be a younger editor, as long as you act like a mature adult. Several experienced users here have told me that they are teenagers themselves. It's fine if you act like an adult here. Nothing personal against you. Best, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 00:02, 13 July 2012 (UTC).

Well TIW claims at various times to have colleagues, to be at college (which in Ireland is generally a college of further education, that is to say would make him 15-18*) or indeed to be past his teenage years or to be rather young (last diff shows all three!). So I'm sure he'll eventually decide whether he's a teenager or not, but it's really no concern of ours. Once again, I completely endorse the right of teenagers to edit here. I'm in my mid twenties myself and remember how irritating arbitrary age restrictions are. Indeed I would even support a bit of tolerance for hormonal acting out. There are limits though. Egg Centric 20:44, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

*Of course, there are a few of the "less able" members of society at college later than that...

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my research

Yer...that was Scottish! :) I will be publishing hopefully yes! Ok, send me an email to nusa.faric.11@ucl.ac.uk and I will send you the ethics form and the questions. meanwhile you can read the instructions and fill out a questionnaire following this link http://commons.wikimedia.org/User:Hydra_Rain. Thank you! Nush 90.210.83.229 (talk) 21:27, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

On its way! Egg Centric 15:31, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

TheIrishWarden

So you are telling me that this :http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Garden_strawberry&diff=502219465&oldid=502219424 is not vandalism. Also they said strawberry is also called a pine berry which is correct although they had no references for it. I gave the IP one warning for the silly message. So my edits are justified. Another user gave them a second warning, I suggest for you to stop scrutinising everything I do and stop pretending you have more power than me on here as you aren't anything special Like an admin at the end of the day. Stop talking about me I really don't care. File a reort or STFU for once.TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 07:25, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

... Egg Centric 15:30, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

New start

I am willing to turn over a new leaf with you and I think you could teach me a bit. I was just very confused what was going on as a new user and my instinct was to fight back and defend myself, sorry. You may contact me via my talk page. Thanks TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 21:10, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Hurray!

Fuller response comes sometime fairly soon. Egg Centric 22:28, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 19:00, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh well, I tried. Egg Centric 19:30, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

I respect that you tried but I think for the moment it will be best that we go our own ways. Although that doesn't mean I won't co-operate with you in the near future. I will hope to see you around and talk to you in a the near future when I become more established on here. TheIrishWarden - Irish and proud (talk) 20:45, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Best of luck. Just remember it's an encyclopedia, no more, no less. Egg Centric 20:47, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

• I FEEL YOU SHOULD BE CONGRATULATED

You have taken enormous trouble to educate and sympathise with the above – long before the "gay" incident, I see from your postings here and there – and I was infuriated tonight when I noticed the immediate removal of your careful and well-written advice this evening:

(cur | prev) 18:55, July 16, 2012‎ Egg Centric (talk | contribs)‎ . . (16,748 bytes) (+307)‎ . . (→‎Truth?: new section) (undo)............... (cur | prev) 18:53, July 16, 2012‎ TheIrishWarden (talk | contribs)‎ . . (16,441 bytes) (-2,886)‎ . . (I get it but some of it is not true) (undo) (cur | prev) 18:46, July 16, 2012‎ Egg Centric (talk | contribs)‎ . . (19,327 bytes) (+2,886)‎ . . (→‎Advice: new section) (undo)

I did not know of you before the "gay" issue, and as far as I am concerned, the only good thing to have come out of the ensuing days, as far as this matter is concerned, is that I do now. You are clearly one of the (all too few) 'good guys' that inhabit this Wikipedian "community" that some of us take seriously. Indeed, as is User:83.119.142.202 who has behaved in an exemplary way from start to finish.

Sincerely, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 23:23, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you Gareth. As I mentioned to TIW, thoughtful thanks from the likes of yourself are worth more than a thousand barnstars.

Best Regards,

David Egg Centric 11:04, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Couldn't agree more. I am sure we will keep in touch with each other. All the best, -- Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 14:38, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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