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Edit keeps getting reverted, editor doesn't care for explanation
Hi again,
The 2012 Burgas bus bombing article had an edit added by someone to it that said "On July 21, it was reported that Bulgarian Interior Minister Tsvetan Tsvetanov, the official who is in charge of the investigation, "denied rumors in the international media about the bomber's identity and said there was no proof that Hezbollah was behind the attack.""
The reference is an article from July 21. I explained to the editor that the minister's statements are written above nearly exactly the same thing, but on July 20, and most likely, the newspaper just repeated what he said the day before for context, as is often done. There was no proof he said it again, and it's just redundant. When I removed it, it just got reverted. The editor has failed to explain why he feels it belongs twice.
I added a section on the talk page for other people's comments, but didn't get any replies. I again tried to explain it to the editor, but no luck - he just reverted it, saying "Look at what day the article was written." In other words, ignored everything I wrote.
Do you think that it should be kept in the article, or removed? Need more info? And if you're not up for this, do you know which forum I can take this to? The editor has been blocked for 72 hours in the past for edit warring, and this is really what it feels like, but I'm not interested in sanctions or anything... Thanks. --Activism1234 01:20, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
- Please make an attempt to discuss this with the editor in question, in particular at Talk:2012 Burgas bus bombing . Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:22, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
I've done just this on the talk page, see here. I also brought it up on his user page here. He has refused to answer or help out, which makes it very difficult. Thanks. --Activism1234 04:07, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
- He has not refused to answer, he just hasn't answered very thoroughly or helpfully. You might try WP:DRN or WP:RFC. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:10, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for those links, I think I'll go to "third opinion." I'm not sure what you are referring to though about not answering thoroughly, he hasn't provided an explanation to my section on the talk page or his user page. The only explanation I've heard from him was his comment in the summary box when he reverted me in all capital letters, which essentially ignored nearly everything I wrote to him. --Activism1234 04:33, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
- I just meant that he did answer you, he just didn't do it in satisfactory fashion. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:42, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Hmm I could be overlooking something or just not sure what you're referring to, but either way I took it to 3O, but it was rejected since it was on his user page rather than the talk page. I once again posted on his user page, but it didn't get anywhere (and I moved it to talk page as well), and then went to dispute resolution. I posted on his page that I went to dispute resolution, so I'm waiting for his opening statement so others can discuss it. Thanks for your advice. I appreciate it. --Activism1234 00:09, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
You removed your comment
But I had already responded, should I now remove mine? I have never had this happen before. Darkness Shines (talk) 14:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Delete
Hi, please delete this page Milos Bozovic. That player does not exist at all. Page creator removing the template for deletion. Thanks--Заза (talk) 18:35, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
- I've nominated it for deletion. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 18:39, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for intercession, the page is deleted. Cheers. --Zaza (talk) 10:36, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
70.118.102.247 and ARBMAC
You may want to watch this user; after you left the block template and the other comments, the IP removed almost everything, the block template and the statement about WP:ARBMAC being the only exceptions. Nyttend (talk) 22:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
- Yup; I already placed it on the user page where the IP cannot edit. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:15, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
ANI
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. The discussion is at Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Darkness_Shines. Mar4d (talk) 03:22, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi
Wow thanks so much man! Ericdeaththe2nd (talk) 17:47, 2 August 2012 (UTC)ericdeaththe2nd
- You're welcome. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:30, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Your 6 month 1RR/week probabation on 70.118.102.247
Already broken on Yugoslav Wars. See 1 and 2. Blanked your notification here before the first revert, so he can't claim he didn't know. Meters (talk) 22:22, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
Blocked for a period of one week. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 23:28, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
File:Capt MK Durrani.jpg
Can this file be deleted? You tagged it as {{keep local}} to test something in January and then tagged as {{NotMovedToCommons}} a month later. —innotata 01:23, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Well seeing as they've ignored the bug report for 7 months now, sure, why not? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 01:46, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Shame
Shame on you - diff - Youreallycan 13:17, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- If you'd stop edit warring with other people on talk pages then you wouldn't have to deal with people like me saying you should be outright banned from them. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 13:49, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
People like you. - Youreallycan 13:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Do you think your recent edit warring was justified? Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 13:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
No edit of mine could possibly warrant me being banned as you desired - Youreallycan 14:02, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Please answer the question. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:08, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Shame on you - is not a question - Youreallycan 14:11, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Stop being coy. There is a question immediately above and you know what it is. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Anonymous tossers get what they deserve Youreallycan 14:15, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- You're still avoiding the question. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 14:17, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Cwobeel source distortion/edit war
I noticed that you warned Cwobeel about edit warring very recently on the Mitt Romney articl here.
Recently, he engaged in source distortion two times. See here for more info.
In between his first source distortion and the second, an editor included a "citation needed tag," another editor removed it with a different source that didn't support it either, so another editor removed that... So I'm not sure whether it constitutes edit war or not, but I'm almost positive it's serious source distortion. The edits were specifically made to write that it was a fundraiser, and the second time refs were specifically included to support this assertion, yet the refs don't make any mention of that at all.
Not sure what to do, but I notified you since you originally warned him, and maybe you can look whether it's edit warring or not, and whether it deserves a response. Thanks. --Activism1234 21:24, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
He's a new editor who joined last month, so I'm not saying he should be blocked for this, but maybe, if appropriate, a warning and temporary ban (1 week?) from Mitt Romney related articles, and by that time the issue should already be solved and he can edit with that off his back. Of course, that's completely up to you (and I don't even know whether you can do that or I need to take it to ANI), and you may feel he doesn't deserve that either. Just wanted to notify you, that's all. Thanks. --Activism1234 21:31, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
- Wait, where exactly was the distortion? You've just written me five paragraphs and didn't even tell me what was wrong with the additions. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 00:48, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
The third link, where I wrote "See here for more info" explains it in full. here Not such a big deal to me now though if you want to ignore it. --Activism1234 03:08, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
He claims it was an honest mistake (although I'm skeptical since his edit was made specifically to include refs). --Activism1234 03:09, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'm inclined to assume good faith and say if he claims it was an honest mistake, then to believe that. Only if it becomes a pattern should other activity be taken. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 15:50, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Ok sounds good. Thanks. --Activism1234 16:42, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
A follow up on Bwilkins
Please see User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#A_follow_up_on_Bwilkins. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:43, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Notification of RFC/U concerning Youreallycan
I'd like to notify you, as a previous blocking administrator, that I've initiated a Request for Comments/User concerning Youreallycan (talk · contribs). The RFC/U, which mentions your block, can be read at Misplaced Pages:Requests for comment/Youreallycan. Prioryman (talk) 14:33, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Could I draw your attention to the comments posted at Misplaced Pages talk:Requests for comment/Youreallycan#Certification? Thanks in advance. Prioryman (talk) 00:01, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Clarification questions on "Move to Commons"
With others starting to move the "generic taxt/shape" logos to the Commons that I originally uploaded here, I thought it might be better (for tracking, in a sense) to do so myself first. But I need help with a particular situation. A file I will example is File:InsideTheActorsStudioLogo.png. I now have a decently higher quality version of this file with no background, and I would also rename the file putting spaces between the words. So even though it is the same logo, it would be an entirely different file and file name. Should I do something different on the English Misplaced Pages page to get this file deleted since CSD F8 would not qualify? It would, after all, soon end up orphaned anyway. What about the same situation of a higher quality/different logo but the file name didn't change? Please send me a talkback. Thanks. — CobraWiki 04:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Because you uploaded the file on English Misplaced Pages, you could simply tag it with {{db-self}}. Magog the Ogre (talk) (contribs) 04:32, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you. That'll be much easier than I was expecting. — CobraWiki 06:23, 8 August 2012 (UTC)