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Hi, this removed content is one of my previous edits, but i failed inserting an infobox correctly, so i deleted my previous attempt to try again... Thanks for your comment. Wikaviani (talk) 13:11, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

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My bafflement

• Here is the first of the pieces of text from your comments which puzzled me:

"You say Dallal is not a mathematician, but Robertson and O'Connor are prominent mathematicians, do you think they misread Rashed too ???"

This is obviously not a statement, but it does look to me very much like a rhetorical question, carrying an implication that if what I said about Dallal were correct, I should logically hold the same opinion about O'Connor and Robertson. That doesn't follow, because, unlike Dallal, they have nowhere—as far as I'm aware—committed the error of mischaracterising algebraic geometry as "the study of curves by means of equations".

David Wilson (talk · cont) 12:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@David J Wilson: Hi David,

First of all, thanks for your message.

Actually, it seems that we have a point of disagreement here. According to me, the study of curves by means of equations is a part of algebraic geometry but since it's not the only one, it can not be used to characterize this field.

As you said on the Sharaf al-Din al-Tusi's talk page, Robertson and O'Connor are in agreement with Rashed when he writes"...it represents an essential contribution to another algebra which aimed to study curves by means of equations, thus inaugurating the beginning of algebraic geometry".

Since the study of curves by means of equations inaugurates the begnning of algebraic geometry, then this study is part of this field.

To support my above statement, here's how St Andrews defines algebraic geometry:

http://www-history.mcs.st-andrews.ac.uk/Glossary/algebraic_geometry.html

"Algebraic geometry studies curves, surfaces and their higher dimensional equivalents defined by systems of polynomial equations and relates their properties to the algebraic properties of the polynomial rings that they determine"

While of course, this definition includes modern notions, the first part clearly states that this field studies curves (geometry) defined by systems of polynomial equations (algebra).

Since you have nicely contributed to the article on Sharaf al-Din al-Tusi with a detailed description of his work in mathematics, i assume you have some knowledge in this area so that you can easily understand the definition given above.

English is not my mother tongue, however, i hope to have been clear...

Wikaviani (talk) 17:25, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I was a professional mathematician for 40 years (now retired). While I certainly cannot claim to be an expert on algebraic geometry, I have attended an informal course on the subject conducted by one of my former colleagues. One of the books normally sitting on my bookshelf, but now lying next to me as I write, is Miles Reid's Undergraduate Algebraic Geometry.

Above you write:

"Actually, it seems that we have a point of disagreement here. According to me, the study of curves by means of equations is a part of algebraic geometry but since it's not the only one, it can not be used to characterize this field."

I'm not sure I've understood this correctly. When you write "According to me, ...", are you referring to yourself? Since the sentence is not enclosed in quotation marks, that is the natural way to read it, and the way I initially read it, with some puzzlement, because if that is your position, then on this point it would seem to me that we're in furious agreement. I refer you to a very similar statement I made on the talk page of the article on Sharaf al-Din al-Tusi:

"To clarify this, algebraic geometry most certainly is not "the study of curves by means of equations", as two of your sources have mischaracterised it. While the study of curves by means of equations is one essential ingredient of algebraic geometry it is not the only one, and does not, by itself, constitute doing algebraic geometry."

It later occurred to me that when you wrote "According to me, ...", you might have been trying to restate my position—which it is—as something you disagreed with. Please let me know if that is the case, and I will further clarify why I hold that position.

As for the rest of what you have written above, I see nothing there that I would disagree with.

David Wilson (talk · cont) 23:13, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I am not an expert in algebraic geometry either (my PhD was on stochastic calculus, Itô's formula with generalized Hurst exponent and generalized heat equation to non-integer derivation orders...) so that what i said you above is effectively my opinion and what i remember from my university courses. To make it simple, studying curves by means of equations implies doing algebraic geometry BUT doing algebraic geometry does not necessarily imply studying curves by means of equations (in other words, a cat is a feline but a feline is not necessarily a cat...). This is why i gave you the example of Euclid and geometry on Sharaf al-Din al-Tusi's talk page. If you agree with what i wrote just above, then we don't have any disagreement on this point. Wikaviani (talk) 14:39, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

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