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Hello brother

hey why did u revert my edit ? Megalyn Echikunwoke's bio states that her father is Igbo Nigerian and her mother is Irish and German, according to this information neither of her parents are "African American" by definition I put her as a nigerian actresses and u removed it, please explain why? when it clearly states she's ethnically Nigerian through her father — Preceding unsigned comment added by Philly2166 (talk • contribs) 21:37, 19 May 2018 (UTC)

Katherine Langford

Wanted to give you a heads up - I posted on Katherine Langford's talk page to discuss why you removed the infobox image. Thanks! Meatsgains 01:36, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

Requests for feedback on Metro Vancouver transit and related pages

Hey Joeyconnick,

If you ever need feedback from me regarding changes to Metro Vancouver transit and related pages, don't hesitate to ping me (either on the relevant talk page or my user talk page). Even though I haven't been as active lately, I'm always willing to contribute feedback and assist with edits. Sweetnhappy (talk) 04:46, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi Sweetnhappy... thanks for the offer! I think that can sometimes be seen as canvassing, though, so I often prefer to put out general calls for any interested parties' opinions. You and I have often agreed in the past so I didn't want it to seem like I was calling in people just to back up my opinion on something this major, hence the more general call. But where possible and appropriate, I'll keep you in mind to notify directly for sure. It's always good to have people who are dedicated enough not just to do edits but also to write up their opinions, even if they don't always align with mine. —Joeyconnick (talk) 06:57, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

Works vs. publishers

The "work" field automatically italicizes the name of the site, but "publisher" does not. I was trying to get the citation to line up with how these site names are formatted in their own articles. --Jprg1966 03:48, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

The King (2019 film)

It has been confirmed by multiple sources the film is due to be released in 2019.
https://variety.com/2018/film/news/robert-pattinson-more-cast-join-david-michods-king-for-netflix-1202826471/
https://screenrant.com/netflix-king-movie-cast-timothee-chalamet/
https://www.popbuzz.com/tv-film/netflix/timothee-chalamet-robert-pattinson-the-king/
http://collider.com/netflix-the-king-timothee-chalamet/
http://www.vulture.com/2018/05/robert-pattinson-timothee-chalamet-ben-mendelsohn-netflix-casting.html
http://ew.com/movies/2018/05/31/robert-pattinson-timothee-chalamet-the-king-netflix-henry-v-film/
https://www.cnet.com/news/netflix-gets-shakespearian-with-timothee-chalamet/
https://i-d.vice.com/en_us/article/3k4vew/this-new-netflix-film-stars-our-two-faves-timothee-chalamet-and-lily-rose-depp
ElizaOscar (talk) 01:28, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

@ElizaOscar: Okay... so someone should cite one or more of those sources in the The King (upcoming film) and Timothée Chalamet articles before they consider listing the film as happening in 2019. But I understand why it's been moved to "(upcoming film)"—it doesn't have a solid release date... and even those can change considerably cf. The New Mutants (film). But at least The New Mutants has a specific release date, even though it may be subject to change. So I think "TBA" is appropriate for now, given WP:CRYSTAL. —Joeyconnick (talk) 03:11, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Italics proposal we talked about

Sorry for the delay. Busy few days, plus I procrastinated, honestly. How about we put something like this at Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style/Titles.

Two editors, myself and Joeyconnick, have been discussing whether Biography.com should be italicized in footnotes. Our deduction is that it is an online biographical encyclopedia. The MOS states, "Online encyclopedias and dictionaries should also be italicized (Scholarpedia or Merriam-Webster Online). As neither of these examples are given as "Scholarpedia.org" or "M-W.com", we're thinking that for consistency that this cite read: work=Biography | publisher= FYI / A&E Networks)", the publisher part being as we already have it consistently now. This would make cites Biography.com consistent and agree with MOS. Thoughts?

Any tweaks or edits you'd suggest? --Tenebrae (talk) 18:35, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

No worries re: busy (or procrastinating). Only tweak is that can we just list A&E Networks? I'm not clear on all the complexities of ownership but it seems like A&E owns/runs FYI too, correct? And if FYI is a channel which is also owned by A&E, then it probably doesn't need to be listed as the publisher also (if we are considering publishers to be the corporate "parents" as it were). If that's not sufficient, I would recommend we pick one or the other. But at the end of the day, I think the biggest plus/point is Biography is functioning as an encyclopedia/dictionary and ought to be italicized and also not listed as its domain name. :)

Thanks for writing this up! —Joeyconnick (talk) 21:43, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Egan

The Toronto Star calls him James Egan here, in their headline: https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2018/06/13/i-am-a-homosexual-gay-rights-pioneer-james-egan-celebrated-in-first-lgbtq2-heritage-minute.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ffolkways (talk • contribs) 23:01, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

@Ffolkways: right... and that's one source. —Joeyconnick (talk) 23:03, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The Nun

It is always someone who got an itch on every tiny things. My arguments:

1. {{ubl}} is a derivative of {{plainlist}}.
2. It is concise.
3. It uses less code.
4. Reduces page processing bandwidth because there is no line break for each entry.
5. Produces same effect as plainlist template. Harsh Rathod Poke me! 07:09, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Harshrathod50:

(5) is irrelevant because we both already know they produce the same output. That's actually an argument against changing it (unless you are arguing that change for the sake of change is a worthy goal).

(1) is irrelevant because the provenance of the template doesn't affect whether to use it or not.

(2) to (4) are irrelevant because wikicode itself is less concise than many other things we could use to generate pages; that's to say, brevity is not the goal... accessibility to many (i.e. ease of reading/use) is. And in fact some of the examples given in the {{ubl}} documentation have it being used with linebreaks, I assume for the sake of readability. I would love to see where it says that linebreaks have any kind of significant impact on processing.

Then there's the fact that the justification you mention in your edit summaries, the documentation at Template:Infobox_film/doc, mentions {{plainlist}} multiple times. It also mentions {{ubl}}, too, but it doesn't require (or forbid) either one.

On top of all that, WP:STATUSQUO (The Nun (2018 film) was already using {{plainlist}}) and your switch to ubl from plainlist, by your own admission, didn't change how the page is rendered. So you haven't shown convincingly that ubl trumps plainlist. —Joeyconnick (talk) 16:55, 14 June 2018 (UTC)