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Small friendly reminder

Hey! I saw you posting that events have made it harder to work on Misplaced Pages this month. Just wanted to remind you to keep yourself as top priority, but that your work here is super appreciated and making the world better by making information accessible. Sending a warm hug from Netherlands A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 23:17, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for that greatly appreciated boost. I hope that you are well, too. Now that I have started school on a regular schedule, I should be able to bear significant fruit this weekend! Appreciation from Colorado, USA. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:26, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

Hello, again

Remembering a conversation we had some time back about Homecoming...well, it's upon us, and I'm in Williamsburg as of last night. Let me know if you're going to be able to make it - I'd welcome the opportunity of a hat tip, at least. (The hat being tipped is my battered old W&M cap from the Campus Store, naturally.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:45, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Thank you for messaging me; I intended to reach out to you tomorrow! I too have a tattered hat from the shuttered campus shop to tip (and a decent couple stories to go with it). I'll be in town on Thursday morning and would appreciate the opportunity to buy you a coffee or something of that ilk! Simply message me here if you're free Thursday or Friday morning and we can link up at either Aromas or Illy. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:50, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Excellent. Tomorrow morning would likely be best - my friend is coming into town tomorrow night, and I'm not sure yet what our plans are for Friday. I will be heading across the river tomorrow for a visit to the Miles Carpenter Museum in Waverly (assuming it's open - the site says it is, but I'm never sure) and a little bit of Southside photography. You're welcome to join if you wish. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 16:01, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Alright! Let's say Aromas vaguely around 9:15. I would love to cross the James–it's all together too nice over there–but have to juggle a few other engagements later in the afternoon. Thanks for the invitation. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:23, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

9:15? *groan* The things I do for inter-editor harmony. I'll shoot for 9:15, but knowing how I function in the morning it may be closer to 9:30. Thank the Lord my hotel is reasonably close.

(Actually, it's fine. Gives me a jump on the rest of the day.)

And where the hell is Illy, anyway? (I do know, I think...but that's a far more recent addition to these environs than my own time here.) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 03:36, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

FYI, I'm at Aroma's right now. ----~~ Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 13:27, 7 October 2021 (UTC) @Ser Amantio di Nicolao: Due to the wonderful bastards over at Apple, my phone auto snoozed me. I woke up at exactly 10:30 this morning cursing as soon as I saw the time. I apologize for sticking you up but wish to tell you in the most sincere way it was not intended. I am very upset with this. I hope you have a good rest of your day. If you have time at all later this weekend for me to attempt to make it up to you I would dearly like to try. ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:41, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

No apologies needed...it happens. Just shoot me an email and we can coordinate something for later in the weekend. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 14:46, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Any time of your choosing today or tomorrow. Again, my sincerest apologies. ~ Patrick (Pbritti (talk) 14:53, 7 October 2021 (UTC))

What about this evening? I cam arrange to be back from Southside whenever is convenient for you. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:52, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Absolutely. 6pm and after I’m more than free. I’ll be in the area and you pick a joint. I can vouch for Precarious. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:41, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Great...I was thinking about trying them. I'm currently having a late lunch in Wakefield. Shall we say meet at Precarious on Henry St. at about 8:30? -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:49, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

8:30 it is! I’ll be the guy with grey shirt and mustache. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:03, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm the balding, fat fellow in the light blue shirt. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 20:09, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Ordering now! ~ Pbritti (talk) 00:28, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Berwind, Colorado

The article Berwind, Colorado you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Berwind, Colorado for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Starkenborgher -- Starkenborgher (talk) 03:21, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Solidarna Polska

Isnt this just an opinion piece? I don’t think it’s a good source for calling them far right when it’s a political opinion piece, I think a book or maybe a political evaluator site would be better. Solidarityandfreedom (talk) 21:04, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

@Solidarityandfreedom: While generally I would agree with you, the piece itself pulls from other political evaluation groups to draw that conclusion and its publication in a paper of record merits reference, as description of groups as "far-right" are inevitably subjective and subject to change. If you want, you could adjust the text to read something like "opponents have criticized the party as far-right." In any case, welcome to Misplaced Pages; it seems like you've had some trouble making some edits right out the gate but otherwise the addition of this content has been appreciated and I would love to help as you'd like! ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:14, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Solidarityandfreedom (talk) 22:16, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Maroun/Maronites

Hello,

The appropriate spelling for the monastic founder of the Maronite Church is Maroun not Maron. The latter spelling is only employed in the United States. Furthermore, the standard spelling for individuals who bear his name as their Christian or family name e.g. the poet Maroun Abboud or the film director Maroun Bagdadi. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LebaneseMaronite (talk • contribs) 06:55, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

@LebaneseMaronite: You are correct that the name “Maron” is also commonly spelt “Maroun.” The article is in American English, which uses “Maron.” The spelling of surnames of other individuals is not relevant to the standard spelling of this person’s name. As the article is in American English and the popular accepted spelling for the saint’s name in American English is “Maron,” it will remain as such. ~ Pbritti (talk) 07:05, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

I will keep changing the spelling to Maroun. Have a great day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LebaneseMaronite (talk • contribs) 07:14, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Just saying hi

Hey, just another Catholic coin collecting consistent life ethic person, though I prefer coffee to earl grey lol XP6287 (talk) 17:31, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Hey, XP6287! Glad to see a Twitter mutual on here. Will have to work with you sometime! ~ Pbritti (talk) 19:43, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Engaging in American-Centric Racism

Self-stated edit warring

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Following your constant change of the spelling “Maroun” to “Maron” in defiance of correct linguist transliteration.

Hello, LebaneseMaronite. Further toxic behavior may result in a request for arbitration, the result of which could carry potential adverse ramifications. You accuse an attendee of a Maronite parish of racism against Maronites for suggesting that we follow common usage of a term–usage supported by actual references from actual Maronites–on Misplaced Pages. Again, further disruptive behavior is not tolerated and may result in a request for outside review. ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:16, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

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Appreciate your willingness to at least consider a restart/rewrite of MKuCR article

In regards to this, that is exactly what I propose — I simply think that the way to accomplish this is through deletion, as has been years that we have proposed to do a rewrite/restructuring but received no support or help from the other side. Once the article is rewrittren, and we agree there no longer are significant issues, it would be recreated — most of it is already taken from other articles, so nothing would be lost from the current version through deletion/rewrite. We do not necessarily disagree that the article is notable,1 but we think that the currently structured article is so problematic that it cannot simply be fixed without drastic solutions like deletion/rewrite/restructuing.

Notes

1. If you are not aware of it, Siebert has also proposed this topic, which I think is really the notable topic we should discuss.

"In my opinion, the really notable topic is the discussion of the view that Communism was the greatest mass murderer in XX century. Who said that? Why? What was the main purpose for putting forward this idea? How this idea was accepted? Who supports that? Who criticise it and what the criticism consists in? How this idea is linked to recent trends in Holocaust obfuscation? And so on, and so forth. This would be a really notable topic, and that can save the article from deletion. However, that will require almost complete rewrite of the article."

Again, thank you for at least considering a rewrite as a possibility — it is good to see users like you who do not strawman us. Davide King (talk) 01:19, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

@Davide King:: Tagging Paul Siebert, who wanted to know if I had the means to do so. I have access to JSTOR, WSJ, and NYT through both my university and personal subscriptions. I would really like to help you guys with this because I passionately think there should be an article under this heading but also believe it should have a complete rewrite. If you guys are willing to wait until the end of the month for me to get started on a draft, I would like to help you all with a proper rewrite. ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:53, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

No worry, I don't need jstor, I have an access to it. I am not sure if we can write another article until this one exists, for that may be seen as a violation of NPOV Paul Siebert (talk) 01:56, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

There is a sandbox available for that very purpose at Talk:Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes/sandbox, so no NPOV violation issues if it is used. Feel free to blow away the current content, it is a really old version of the article, Cheers, --Nug (talk) 10:29, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

@Nug: Thanks. This will be a place to start. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:52, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Colorado Coalfield Help

Hi there! I got your message about the Colorado Coalfield page. Honestly I am not on wikipiedia much but you are more than welcome to email me at blaze88@gmail.com. I can scan any pages of the book you need or assist in whatever way. Delphinium1 (talk) 14:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Global Methodist Church

On 14 December 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Global Methodist Church, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Global Methodist Church is part of a proposed divorce over marriage? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Global Methodist Church. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Global Methodist Church), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:03, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

William and Mary

Hey there Pbritti!

I was the person who made the original edits to William and Mary adding Marshall, Washington (Bushrod), and Wythe to the Notable People section that you removed. It's a shame that Bushrod Washington and George Wythe can't be included, WM is already a pretty small university and there are a plurality of incredibly infleuntial people that are noteworthy (Harvard's Notable People wiki section is absolutely brimming!).

I think removing Wythe and Washington (the former an Attorney General, the first law professor in the country, and mentors to Madison and Marshall; the latter a Justice on the Supreme Court of the United States and a Founding Father) is a mistake. These incredible alumni should be given at least some representation on the relatively small and quaint WM Alumni Section.

Regardless, I respect the decision for removing my edits and I'd just like to voice my civil disagreement here.

P.S. Thanks for leaving in my addition of John Marshall, I was pretty amazed that he wasn't included on there already. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GuardianH (talk • contribs) 00:58, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

@GuardianH: To start, I greatly appreciate your edits and your interest in increasing awareness of The College of William & Mary's history on this platform. I think you raise a good point: Harvard's alumni section is large–too large. There are separate alumni pages for both The College (here) and multiple for Harvard (here and here). Since a collegiate encyclopedic page already addresses the alumni separately, it is better to present a small cross-section that establishes the variety of notable graduates. If you wish to improve reference to the alumni you added within the history section, that portion of the page can always benefit from improvement (as can the page devoted to The College's history here).

As a final note, I would contend that the article on The College is actually fairly outsized for its student body population–a quite justified thing! Thank you for your edits and cordiality. Let me know if I can help with any projects you might want a second pair of eyes on, from a recent grad (Class of '21). ~ Pbritti (talk) 01:14, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Thanks for your stellar expansion of Book of Common Prayer (1979)! Eddie891 Work 02:40, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

@Eddie891: Wow! Thank you so much! ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:36, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Henry Clay

Hey there Pbritti,

Thanks for responding to my previous message. I was wondering if we could place Henry Clay, the witty statesman and former United States Secretary of State, in place of Thao Nguyen?

I feel like Clay would fit nicely into the already existing alumni list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GuardianH (talk • contribs) 19:11, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

@GuardianH: I think the inclusion of Clay would be very good (he arguably was the most important politician in the early republic period), however removing Thao would mean we have neither a woman nor a 21st-century graduate included on the list, something of a significant oversight from an encyclopedic perspective. I say just add Clay but we cap it there. We can discuss this further on the article's talk page if need be so that we can cite the discussion, should the need to reference this decision arise. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:27, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

@Pbritti: Alright, I added Clay and kept Thao. I agree the section looks good for now. Thanks for being genial and adding these figures of American history to the W&M wiki! ~ GuardianH

@GuardianH: Thank you! Let me know if I can help in any other way! ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:54, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Canadian Indian residential school gravesites - Whistleblowers

Hey, I don't understand what happened. I think you deleted the libel suit reference but it is still there? I tried to just revert to the 1st Nations mention w/o the reference as you had removed it... Anyway, I was thinking we should either delete him altogether OR put him in a section like Culture or something where he doesn't sound official.Skingski (talk) 08:16, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

See my discourse on the Talk page.Skingski (talk) 08:17, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Ugh, I corrected my grammar error on the libel suit thing - ignore that first comment. I blame my incompetence on fatigue. Skingski (talk) 17:24, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Don't worry about it! I was exhausted too and was editing stream-of-consciousness. Glad you added those details. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:07, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Scottish Prayer Book (1929)

On 4 February 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Scottish Prayer Book (1929), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the 1929 Scottish Prayer Book is the Scottish Episcopal Church's current version of the Book of Common Prayer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Scottish Prayer Book (1929). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Scottish Prayer Book (1929)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Book of Common Prayer (1979)

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Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:03, 8 February 2022 (UTC)

DYK for Lake Matoaka

On 1 March 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lake Matoaka, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the College of William & Mary's Lake Matoaka is named for Pocahontas? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lake Matoaka. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lake Matoaka), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

Precious

common prayer

Thank you for quality articles around the Book of Common Prayer (1979), for Walsenburg, Colorado, Lake Matoaka and Traditionis custodes, in well-organized projects, for "I'd welcome the opportunity of a hat tip", - Patrick, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2708 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:24, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Wow, thank you, Gerda Arendt! ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:07, 2 March 2022 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Colorado Coalfield War

The article Colorado Coalfield War you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Colorado Coalfield War for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Goldsztajn -- Goldsztajn (talk) 03:21, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts, Goldsztajn. ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:42, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

@Pbritti My apologies for not being able to review the McGovern/Guttridge source within the time I had indicated. For the record, I personally did not actually close this as fail, that was done by @BlueMoonset, but it appears in my name. Nevertheless, I had earlier expressed a desire to close given the problems with the use of the sources, so I believe this is for the better. If I haven't tarred my reputation with you, ping me if (when?) you come back to work on the article; I wouldn't try to review it again (ha!), but would be happy to work on a renomination. Kind regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 13:07, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

@Goldsztajn: Thank you again for your help. I would love to talk to you about the matter in the future; you're clearly invested in making sure this article looks as best it can. Let me know if there is ever a project I can help you with in the future. Also, know your reputation is absolutely not sullied with me and I am looking forward to running into you again! ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:09, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Moved discussion

The below was erroneously placed on my user page by Skingski

Whistleblowers in Canadian Indian residential school gravesites

Hey, wondering if you thought about revising the Whistleblower part as discussed? (discussion here: ) Skingski (talk) 22:40, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church

Hi @Pbritti: please have you look at the discussion going on in Talk:Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church and kindly share your opinion. Thank you. Jude Didimus (talk) 11:00, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Praedicate evangelium

Hello! Praedicate evangelium has been released today. I have attempted to give the WP article a good structure and the information I found in one CNA article, so as to give the WP article a good kickstart. Could you give me a hand in improving the article? Thanks in advance. Veverve (talk) 14:10, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

@Veverve: I can not wait to help–except for the part that I have to for finals. I will work on it as soon as I can, probably some cursory edits tomorrow afternoon! Thank you for pinging me and happy hunting for some more great RSs!. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:08, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Continuous edit warring using ignorance

Explain what is the significance of 1663. You must make it clear. What happened in 1663. Don't dump stupidity. Deal with good faith first 2402:8100:3908:8C0B:214C:8BBE:2CE6:48B5 (talk) 05:16, 14 April 2022 (UTC)