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Guidance?

Hi! Just FYI: You asked me a question on my talk page (User talk:Atlant#A little guidance please) and I've answered you there.

Atlant 22:54, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Detractors are many...which demonstrates effectiveness

I have many detractors. The articles that used to be on Misplaced Pages were constantly being vandalised by those who fear my effectiveness in my message. Those cowards have begun to do so to this page as well.

This will become a running list of the information found about them:

• 24.131.160.16 was done through an IP mask...the actual IP address is 68.87.174.65 through Comcast in Maple Grove.
• 66.173.127.11 this one belongs to SOUTH WASHINGTON COUNTY BULLETIN, 7584 80 ST S, COTTAGE GROVE, MN 55016 (NetRange: 66.173.127.8 - 66.173.127.15), RTechPhone: +1-651-730-4007.

Re. Request

Do you mean you want the revisions after 08:27, October 17, 2006 to be deleted? --Alex (Talk) 16:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Tony 16:01, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Done. Remember to use UTC time, as I got a little confused where to delete up to :) Thanks. --Alex (Talk) 16:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank You for you quick response. --Tony 16:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Race to the Right information deserves its own page

Perhaps by mistake, you have created a page for Race to the Right on your User page. Please move this information to a page of its own, so that it can be properly categorized under . As it is, it is difficult to find or link to. Thanks for your contribution. Mapcat 05:11, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I did previously have a page for it already. It was deleted (not notable). Just before it was deleted I moved the text to my user page. -- Tony 21:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Being an admin is no big deal

Hi Tony! You and Zeeboid keep mentioning admins in the global warming debate, e.g. here: . I hope you are aware of the fact that being an admin is no big deal, and that admins have no special rights or priviledges in a content dispute. In particular, thy are bound by rules like WP:3RR, and they are not allowed to use the admin tools e.g. to block an opposing user.--Stephan Schulz 09:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot, you know everything and we know nothing about Misplaced Pages. Forgive me for my error, my liege. Now what I do know about the administrators on Misplaced Pages (that obviously is 100% wrong because it contradicts you) is that your buddy has a history of using his extra admin powers in the middle of disputes about his own edits. Anywhere else in the world and that would be considered a conflict of interest. But of course, not by you and the rest of your circle of wagons. There are so many things that should be an issue, and yet anytime someone tries to call attention to it since he was voted (by almost most of the people helping to circumvent the 3RR rules) they have been the one punished. I have seen it with other admins as well. A few get abusive with their power but unless it is really really bad or really really really really obvious (as the last few months of abuse seem to be) admins have some circle of protection. It is worse than the police Blue Code.

But, since you said "no big deal" and point to a link then of course, there is not any disagreement and everyone else is wrong. Nevermind that what you are pointing me to is the admin's typical response to downplay their position.

Follow rules, sure, but when an Admin gets other people to do their bidding then they have not broken the rule directly. They get help circumventing the rules when inconvenient to their purposes. And that is what has been happening to a growing degree with Connelley and his Crowd.

What is it that is no big deal? An obvious latitude in 'bending' decorum, extra 'benefit of the doubt' when their abuse is called to task...no big deal and difficult to overcome. Even with the dozens of pages of examples and documentation I know it will not be enough to get any relief from the abusive nature that is being carried out.

Why mention admins? They have the power to block/unblock people...and the manner it is carried out in pages that Connelley happens to be participating in is enough to push people away. I have only one more edit that I will make to that page unless all of you are eventually banned from the page (you, Connelley, Kim). But, protection requires a gargantuous amount of solid evidence to have a hope. I have a hope by quality and quantity of evidence. But only hope.

What eles is no big deal? The power to edit protected pages (downplay that if you want, but I run 3 wiki sites and know how much that actually means).

Of course, as you guys have pointed out, you are always right and everyone else is always wrong. We are not smart enough to read and understand things.

Why don't you talk down to me and insult the little intelligence I have some more. Better yet, why don't you defend yourself this Sunday on the show as I mention you guys by ID and your abuse. -- Tony of Race to the Right 17:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Go ahead. If you did not notice, I'm based in Germany and hence have no particular interest in US talk radio. I also prefer a neutral medium, like this, to one where one side can easily stack the deck. Moreover, I fail to see how such a complex topic can be adequately presented in a medium that lives of sound bites (and maybe a laugh track). --Stephan Schulz 19:02, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

'stacked deck'--shows actually how little you know about what you speak. You should listen sometime...but then you run the risk of being wrong for the first time ever. I'm incredibly fair...especially with guests, regardless of their viewpoint. So much so that the conservatives get honked off at me for 'pulling punches'.

I'm willing to listen. If you can send me a (link to) a version of today's show that I can use on a Mac without bending over backwards (mp3, AAC, ogg are all fine) I'll do so.--Stephan Schulz 20:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

"neutral medium"--Misplaced Pages, especially on topics of the least bit controversy, is as stacked in one direction as talk radio is the other direction. Of course you could never understand how slighted Misplaced Pages's admins & users are since it is tilted in your favor, of course you are unable to understand when you benefit from it. Only a truly fair-minded person can see when they benefit from an advantage. Misplaced Pages is for non-socialists users what Rush Limbaugh is to the socialist callers. Deny it all you want, but there is too much evidence throughout Misplaced Pages to deny and still be an honest person. -- Tony of Race to the Right 15:50, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

What could be more neutral than this? You present your arguments and sources, and I present mine. The community implicitely decides how to present the overall result. Of course, your sources primarily include paid shills like OISM, while I have e.g. the US National Academy of Sciences, the Royal Society, and the IPCC on my side. If you lose the debate, that can mean that there is a huge conspiracy working against you. But it can also mean that you are plain wrong and a neutral observer sees this. In our situation, the second is a much more parsimonious explanation. And what does the ownership of the means of production have to do with the natural sciences?--Stephan Schulz 20:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, Only a truly fair-minded person can see when they benefit from an advantage. Neutrality does not exist in Misplaced Pages on controversial topics. When Motherjones and exxonsecrets are considered non-biased enough to be counted as a source, yet worldnetdaily is too biased; AP is valid (doctored pics and all) but NewsMax is not. Like I said, Only a truly fair-minded person can see when they benefit from an advantage...obviously you are not in that subset. Go back to your safe-haven, and hang out with the people afraid to leave the socialist safe zone called Misplaced Pages. -- Tony of Race to the Right 22:03, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Interview with Art Robinson, Prof of Chemestry of the Oregon Petition

Sunday 1-3pm CST on Race to the right. click here to listen online and Click Here for the Race to the Right website

Please stop signing posts with an external link

Like you did here. It is strongly discouraged per Misplaced Pages:Signature#External_links and is usually viewed as linkspamming. Thanks. --Isotope23 16:39, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

WP:USER

I am concerned that your user page is using[REDACTED] as a free webhost. Can I ask that you make your user page not an archive of your radio show, but rather a page describing your[REDACTED] related activities? For more information on what user pages are for, please see WP:USER. Hipocrite - «Talk» 20:26, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

You may ask and I will respond with what I was told. Previously the information you are referring to was on its own article. I was told at the time to put it on my User page instead and so I did. Now, if you are making the case to me that User pages are only for "wikipedia related activities" then I hope you are putting this same concern on many, many other user pages. Thank you. -- Tony of Race to the Right 21:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

You were told to put it in a user subpage with the thought that it might eventually become an article. There appears to be no momentum forward regarding turning it into an article - in fact, the page has been protected for more than three months. Userpages are only for[REDACTED] related activities. I have recently made nearly the exactly same statement at User:VirtualEye. Are there other usepages being used as personal webspace that you know of? Hipocrite - «Talk» 21:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

It would show good faith to reduce the size of your user page, especially since all that information is one click away at your own wiki. :-) --Uncle Ed 21:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

True...except I am not able to edit it. It was the target of vandalism and is protected. -- Tony of Race to the Right 21:38, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Correction...it WAS protected. It must have recently (within the past day or so) become unprotected. -- Tony of Race to the Right 21:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I've just unprotected it. Majorly _{(o rly?)} 21:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

And Mnyakko has "majorly" reduced its size! :-) --Uncle Ed 21:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. That reasonably deals with my concerns. Happy editing! Hipocrite - «Talk» 21:52, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Fix

Hi Tony. I do find your attempt at intimidation (which, btw, seriously violates Misplaced Pages policies and etiquette) rather laughable. However, if you persist in this, you should at least get your PHP fixed. The Warning: array_slice() : The first argument should be an array in /home/www/wiki.racetotheright.com/languages/Language.php on line 1105 splattered all over the page is rather distracting. Also, you might want to fix the header of "junk science". --Stephan Schulz 22:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Collecting factual information (and getting help collecting factual information) about what certain gaggles of people do and write is NOT intimidation. Well, I suppose if someone were to know that their edits and actions actually are problematic I can see why one would feel intimidated by the collection of evidence of those facts.

Well, it's not, as it's not working. It's attempted intimidation. Your point, however, falls flat. It's the old argument about privacy: "If you do nothing wrong, why do you want to hide anything?" By that reasoning, you should be fine with a gouvernment camera in each bedroom - after all, they are just "collecting factual information". What you are doing is in the best gulag snitch tradition. --Stephan Schulz 07:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Are you saying we shouldn't be able to see your edit history? P.S. Don't you think there's some law about Soviet human right abuses showing up as discussions grow longer? Seems hypocritical, nonetheless. ~ UBeR 20:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your sincere effort to help with the programming issue. It is being looked into. A change in some server settings caused a cascade of issue including that problem which you mentioned and the discussion board to crash completely. -- Tony of Race to the Right 03:16, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. I'd send you my consulting rates, but I'm probably to expensive and certainly to busy ;-). --Stephan Schulz 07:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

St. Cloud

Are you in the St. Cloud area? I currently am in St. Cloud for a while. I was not aware the radio show is from this area. ~ UBeR 23:06, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

The show is in the St Cloud area...on 1450 KNSI on Sundays from 1PM - 3PM. It is also available on the webstream live (go to either racetotheright.com or 1450knsi.com for the streaming link). -- Tony of Race to the Right 03:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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