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I see that in 2006, Forbes ranked Castro as #7 on a list richest heads of state. May we mention this? I do not wish to bother if it has already been edited out.

Reversion of removal of content

I have reverted a deletion of a source written by Gregory Wilpert. I am not aware of any consensus that he is unreliable as a source. He is definitely biased, but then so is everyone. --Boynamedsue (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

The source in question is "Wilpert, Gregory (2007). Changing Venezuela by Taking Power: The History and Policies of the Chávez Government. London and New York: Verso." Verso is a good publisher, so special reasons to doubt the author would need to exist. --Boynamedsue (talk) 12:31, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

@Boynamedsue: The reliability is unrelated to the publisher, but rather the book and the author themselves. Gregory Wilpert is the founder of Venezuelanalysis.com, which WP:RS/P has already concluded that is unreliable, and was once described as "perhaps the most prominent Chavista". Additionally, but he has been married to a Venezuelan government official, Carol Delgado Arria, who has served for Venezuela as consul general in New York and ambassador in Ecuador. Not only does he have a demonstrated bias towards the subject, but also a conflict of interest, which is incompatible with the NPOV policy. Speaking about reliability and not only bias, one of the clearest examples for false statements can be found at the Economic policy of the Hugo Chávez administration article:

In order to prevent capital flight, and maintain the stability of the Venezuelan bolívar, the Chávez administration enacted strict currency controls in January 2003, making it more difficult for investors to exchange bolívars for dollars. The controls forced many Venezuelan investors to seek out domestic investment opportunities, rather than foreign investments. It also resulted in a large increase in foreign currency reserves, which had reached $35 billion by 2006, which is as high as Canada's (which has a slightly higher population), and on a per capita basis is much larger than Germany's ($55 billion)

This is contracticted by the sources already included in the section, as well as simply how the economic situation in Venezuela turned out. Back in the day, these concerns were already brought up, and for similar reasons (Talk:Hugo Chávez/Archive 26). It's also concerning that this analysis, that can be as best as a primary source and a personal opinion, is presented as fact with an editorial voice. Writing in 2007, 15 years ago, about a historical process that was still unfolding, does not help either with the reliability.

The source should not be used for this topic for these reasons. --NoonIcarus (talk) 23:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for engaging. This does not look to me to be a question of reliability. Being a prominent Chavista does not render a writer unreliable. The quote you cite may well have been true in 2006, or at least have been a reasonable interpretation, especially given that this was prior to the collapse in oil prices. However, it is true that a book written in 2007 talking about 2006, is unlikely to be the best source for that particular page due to WP:WEIGHT.

Reliability is not generally a property of a particular individual, it is a property of a source. Wilbert is widely published in reliable journals, including ones published by Taylor Francis, and was certainly taken as an expert on Venezuela by his very respectable publishers. Even if the website he edits can only be used with attribution, that qualification can not be taken to apply to work he has published elsewhere under the auspices of other editors. It may be that, as with every scholar, attribution is necessary for controversial statements, but ideological dislike is not a reason for the blanket removal of a source. Boynamedsue (talk) 06:07, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Ideology is not the only factor being cited here, but examples have been given on how he is directly related to the subject (is not an independent source), of unreliability and being potentially outdated. --NoonIcarus (talk) 07:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

Whether the source is outdated will depend on the claim it is being used to source, as answered above. The argument that spouses of government officials are not independent of ANY subject relating to the politics of an entire country or, in this case, cultural region is... novel. I do not find it to be based on any policy of wikipedia. Boynamedsue (talk) 11:06, 21 September 2022 (UTC)

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Devereux, Charlie (2 December 2009). "Gregory Wilpert: Chavez defender". Global Post. Archived from the original on 13 November 2010. Retrieved 13 May 2015.

Castro was galician not isleño

I don't find where he is allegedly isleño Pol revision (talk) 15:11, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Why is Fidel Castro called/labeled in this content as a Prime minister but Miguel Diaz-canel is being toted as president?

As noted above and below. In my research I noticed your data/documentation inconsistency. Fidel Castro was called/labeled in this content as a Prime minister but Miguel Diaz-canel is being toted as president. They were both president. 2001:56B:3FE5:C5D9:0:40:6481:B001 (talk) 22:40, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Footprint measured in square yards?

It doesn't make too much sense to me. Sq. feet or Sq. meters would make more sense, no? Nilederg (talk) 02:42, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

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