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Slovenia

Why do you think Slovenia is alternatively placed in Southeastern Europe, if only 25% of it actually lies on the Balkans/Southeastern Europe and is historically and culturally closer to Austria than countries like Serbia and southern part of Croatia.I think Slovenia shoud be placed next to states like Austria, Slovakia, Czech Republic,etc. and not in the section "other countries and regions". Europan guy (talk) 14:32, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Slovenia is also part of Alpain countries which together with the countries of Visegrad group, form Central Europe Europan guy (talk) 14:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Agree, Slovenia and Austria share a long common history (Habsburgs etc.) German was even once an official language and primary literary language in the region back in a day. I’m not sure why Slovenia is not classified here as Central Europe, I’ll read more about it.GizzyCatBella🍁 16:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Doesn't matter where it is placed, or what it is historically and culturally closer to, or whether we agree. If the sources said that Tasmania was part of central Europe, then we would add Tasmania to the article (don't worry, the sources don't say that). I'm reverting your recent change, User:Europan guy, as original research. If you can get sufficient reliable sources that prove your point, then fine. Since there is already disagreement among the sources themselves about this, it comes down to WP:DUEWEIGHT and WP:WikiVoice; this may need an Rfc to resolve. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 00:23, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Hello, about the source. One of the sources is a map, and that map is not a map of Slovenia. It's a map of Serbia, which doesn't have anything to do with Slovenia Europan guy (talk) 00:43, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mathglot: and @European guy: I see Slovenia was added back. I supposes that more sources were found to peg it as central rather than Southern? I don’t disagree, as I very much agree with Slovenia bejng categorized as being in Central Europe, but given the second map in the intro and more sources than not state Croatia as part of Central Europe, which weighs more towards it being technically central, it would seem consistent to also include it on the list. No to mention Croatia being in union with Hungary and in the Austro Hungarian empire for over 900 years. Also a number of maps include Croatia as part right before the States section. It is a weird one as it also spans into Southern Europe, basically dipping ine oeg in each so I can see it also not fully qualify as central Europe outright as Slovenian is already considered Southern Central Europe. Thoughts? Cheers. OyMosby (talk) 21:42, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Lede paragraph about multiculturalism

After having seen the two edits today, this removal with this revert, I have taken a closer look at the paragraph in question. It was added in November through two consecutive edits by an IP editor, citing what at first seems to look like adequate sources. The problem is that those sources do not really support the analysis in the added text. Multiculturalism and nationalism are briefly mentioned in a couple of the sources, communism is not, and there is really no way these sources support a broad overall view of Central Europe through the centuries as the added text indicates. This is clearly original research and synthesis. I am sure it is possible to elaborate on this in the "History" section of the article, but it will have to be done with proper inline sourcing, not just by lumping some books/articles into a note. It is possible that some mention may also be suitable in the lede, but per MOS:INTRO only if it is properly presented in the article itself. --T*U (talk) 12:34, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

misleading wording

@ Your partly reverted my edit.

"continue to show some socio-economic disparities" is ambiguous and even misleading. This wording suggests disparities between those less developed countries themselves, which is not the intended meaning, and not necessarily true. Those countries are just less developed compared to the other members of the European Union. So I changed the wording for a relevant reason. 85.193.252.19 (talk) 15:47, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Well, the whole sentence "Although several Central European countries are still socioeconomically less developed" is misleading and pretentious. Central Europe is a region of Europe, not a region of European Union. And when we compare CE to the Europe as a whole, certainly we can not call it "less developed". I think we should only leave the part about "remarkable" progress and HDI classification.NeonFor (talk) 18:23, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
@User:NeonFor OMG, now I see my mistake. You are absolutely right, and I've just restored your wording. Sorry about my revert. Your edit was perfect. Regards from Poland :-) 85.193.252.19 (talk) 02:10, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Central Europe

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Central Europe's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "UN":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT⚡ 01:16, 18 October 2023 (UTC)


There were no Ottoman fortresses neither garrisons on the territory of modern Slovakia

There were no Ottoman fortresses neither garrisons on the territory of modern Slovakia.

They think about the short lived Principality of Upper Hungary of Imre Thököly.

  • Established

November 19, 1682 • Disestablished October 15, 1685

But it was not an Ottoman occupied territory.

--Mandliners (talk) 19:42, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

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